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riversedge

(70,185 posts)
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 09:38 AM Nov 2016

I certainly dont want them to do what Mitch McConnell did: Obama warns Dems against obstructi

Source: raw story





20 Nov 2016 at 21:34 ET




.................According to a report from Mediaite, reporters at Obama’s press conference in Lima, Peru asked Obama who his pick was for Democratic Leader. Obama reiterated his support of Pelosi as a “remarkable leader.” However, he continued, saying that Democrats in the House and Senate should give the new Donald Trump administration a “hearing.”


“I certainly don’t want them to do what Mitch McConnell did when I was elected,” President Obama said. “Meet the day of and say our sole objective is to not cooperate with him on anything even if the country is about to go into a depression so that we can gain seats in the mid-terms and defeat him.”

Sen. McConnell (R-KY) announced that his single goal as the leader for the Republican Senate was to make President Obama a one-term president. Republicans proceeded to block all legislation coming out of the White House. Last year, when conservative Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia died, Obama nominated Judge Merrick Garland, but Republicans have refused to give him a hearing claiming Obama doesn’t deserve to nominate three justices. No president in United States history has ever had his justice denied a hearing.

“My advice to Democrats is, know what you care about and what you stand for and fight for your principles even if it’s hard fight,” Obama said....................................

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/i-certainly-dont-want-them-to-do-what-mitch-mcconnell-did-obama-warns-dems-against-obstruction/




I am glad that Obama stood up for Pelosi.


I would like nothing better than for Dems to just say no--but on the other hand--letting the bills come to the floor and having a public discussion is fine by me. A public airing is good for all.


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I certainly dont want them to do what Mitch McConnell did: Obama warns Dems against obstructi (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2016 OP
When the democrats are opposed... Blanks Nov 2016 #1
I agree BUT the lying Reich Wing puts out false "news" wordpix Nov 2016 #3
Disagree. Obstruction like they did. Feeling the Bern Nov 2016 #2
Hell NO! BlueInPhilly Nov 2016 #4
We need to obstruct and tell the media and the people why. geomon666 Nov 2016 #5
Agree with all you said ... LenaBaby61 Nov 2016 #11
We need a time tested tactician and Nancy Pelosi has demonstrated that she is brilliant. lonestarnot Nov 2016 #6
Not Pelosi Bear Creek Nov 2016 #30
Hmmf. You promoting stupidity? lonestarnot Nov 2016 #34
Stupid is doing the same Bear Creek Nov 2016 #35
This is Why kebob Nov 2016 #7
Bad advise Mr. President. lonestarnot Nov 2016 #8
Bad advice Mr. President. LenaBaby61 Nov 2016 #10
Even if they didn't signal it, we'd know that's what the party is establishment is primed to do Chakab Nov 2016 #14
Excellent post. JudyM Nov 2016 #15
Agree Bear Creek Nov 2016 #31
I think they should pretend to give him a hearing while plotting geek tragedy Nov 2016 #9
So we're supposed to sit back and watch him appoint a dangerous idealogue to SCOTUS? Fuck that! Initech Nov 2016 #12
This is why the party is in this position. The Democrats have are supposed to play be the antiquated Chakab Nov 2016 #13
President Obama is wrong. The GOP has taught America that 100% obstruction over ideals and values TeamPooka Nov 2016 #16
Who has control Bear Creek Nov 2016 #32
When have the Repukes rusty fender Nov 2016 #17
sounds a bit ironic depending on how you read it 0rganism Nov 2016 #18
Agree Bear Creek Nov 2016 #33
It's a tough call... Sorceress Nov 2016 #19
You said it better than I could of. Thanks riversedge Nov 2016 #26
Don't worry - T will give us plenty of valid reasons Retrograde Nov 2016 #20
There are plenty of republican ideas worth obstructing. Blue Idaho Nov 2016 #21
We have to "obstruct" anything evil that comes from Trump or the Republicans wryter2000 Nov 2016 #22
But! But! But! Obstruction is rewarded in the New Amerikkka! Hugin Nov 2016 #23
I do not think we will get anywhere with the label obstructionist--and the msm will gladly riversedge Nov 2016 #25
I disagree with Mr. Obama. My #1 Goal is to make sure that Trump BlueProgressive Nov 2016 #24
Just because Obama is leaving office doesn't mean it's no longer his fight too. YOHABLO Nov 2016 #27
Sorry, but no Bettie Nov 2016 #28
Given what the GOP is likely to propose there will be little difference between obstruction first andym Nov 2016 #29

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
1. When the democrats are opposed...
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 09:43 AM
Nov 2016

To a particular piece of legislation, they need to go on the TV and talk about it.

I agree with the president. Don't damage the country for partisan reasons, but if there's a problem with the program, point out the problem as the reason for opposing it.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
3. I agree BUT the lying Reich Wing puts out false "news"
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 09:50 AM
Nov 2016

So whatever our side says needs to be hard hitting sound bites to get the sheeple's attention, and said often.

We should throw in some news conferences on the steps of the Capitol and adorn our Congressmen with some generals in the background.

BlueInPhilly

(870 posts)
4. Hell NO!
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 09:56 AM
Nov 2016

Those fuckers are still in office and we lost everything. For being the nice guys. Let them get a dose of their own medicine.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
5. We need to obstruct and tell the media and the people why.
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 10:12 AM
Nov 2016

These rabid weasel fuckers don't care if the MSM is blasting them 24/7. They're going to pass it no matter what. We need to obstruct EVERYTHING and then go on television and explain (as simply as you can for the knuckledraggers) why you had to do that.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
11. Agree with all you said ...
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 11:29 AM
Nov 2016

However, the so-called Liberal Media that doesn't exist is not going to be blasting Rethugs nor tRump these next 4 years. I bet that they'll sit back and enjoy the ratings this treasonous GOP and that Putin-loving traitor tRump bring into the networks, even to the detriment of this country. They're not going to to anything but sit back and enjoy the cluster-fuck that will be a tRump presidency.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
10. Bad advice Mr. President.
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 11:25 AM
Nov 2016

Agree.

However, I'm afraid that Dems already signaling that they "seem" ready to roll over to the GOP and tRump already.

Personally, I'd obstruct when I can and for good reason--not just sit back and allow the GOP to continue running over what's left of the Democratic party. Being allowed to be run over didn't always work so well for the President now did it these past 8 years?

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
14. Even if they didn't signal it, we'd know that's what the party is establishment is primed to do
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 11:44 AM
Nov 2016

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given their previous track record.

People just don't seem to get it. These guys who are in office on the Democratic side, with a few exceptions like Warren and Ellison, have been selected by the donor class to lose to the Republicans on every issue.

Unless we upend the political establishment, we're going to be stuck with the same result.

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
31. Agree
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 06:29 AM
Nov 2016

The democrats need to state why the legislation is bad for our country and the people and let the republicans do every hair brained idea they have. Let it fall on them. If the democrats make any changes the republicans will just say it was the democrats fault they changed a key piece and now it does not work. Do not vote for a bad bill obstruct it. When will they grow a backbone. Being nice and changing words to call a pig a unicorn does not magically change the pig into a unicorn.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. I think they should pretend to give him a hearing while plotting
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 11:24 AM
Nov 2016

to obstruct every single one of his initiatives.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
13. This is why the party is in this position. The Democrats have are supposed to play be the antiquated
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 11:41 AM
Nov 2016

rules hoping to get credit for being honest even after the Republicans have spent the last decade destroying all previously accepted political norms in this country.


It's a recipe for failure, and frankly, that's all that the Democratic party does even when it has overwhelming majorities in Congress.

TeamPooka

(24,218 posts)
16. President Obama is wrong. The GOP has taught America that 100% obstruction over ideals and values
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 02:37 PM
Nov 2016

is a noble cause. You just have to go on TV everyday to say so.

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
32. Who has control
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 06:34 AM
Nov 2016

Though Obama is morally right that the GOP did obstruct they were seen as standing up and fighting for something. I do not support the GOP but there is a lesson here. I would not put to much in store for the news the GOP supporters do not watch anything but Fox and they think it is too liberal. They will have to experience it to get it.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
17. When have the Repukes
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 02:49 PM
Nov 2016

ever proposed legislation that helps the little people, or the country? Never!

Everything from them should be DOA

0rganism

(23,937 posts)
18. sounds a bit ironic depending on how you read it
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 02:51 PM
Nov 2016

"i certainly wouldn't want them to do what Mitch McConnell did when I was elected."
"oh please no"
"don't do that"

Sorceress

(309 posts)
19. It's a tough call...
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 02:52 PM
Nov 2016

At the end of the day, they put the country at risk, they cheated and they have everything to show for it. We keep going high and coming up with nothing. It's tough to hang in there and continue to be honorable. I want to but, it's really difficult.

Retrograde

(10,132 posts)
20. Don't worry - T will give us plenty of valid reasons
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 03:06 PM
Nov 2016

to oppose his appointments and policies - especially if the past week has been an indication of who he'll choose.

Blue Idaho

(5,045 posts)
21. There are plenty of republican ideas worth obstructing.
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 03:26 PM
Nov 2016

The founding fathers gave the minority in the Senate tools to stop a majority from pushing through really bad laws. We are fools if we don't use those tools to protect our democracy and the constitution from those operating in bad faith.

wryter2000

(46,032 posts)
22. We have to "obstruct" anything evil that comes from Trump or the Republicans
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 03:35 PM
Nov 2016

Should the earth tilt on its axis and they propose something reasonable, we can go along. Otherwise, we have to say no.

They said no just to block Obama...even things they'd originally sponsored. We don't have to do that, but we have to stop them from ruining this country.

Hugin

(33,119 posts)
23. But! But! But! Obstruction is rewarded in the New Amerikkka!
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 03:44 PM
Nov 2016

Close down the government! Multiple times!
Filibuster!
Steal elections!
Suppress voters!
Give cronies sweet sweet deals!
Steal from the poor and vulnerable!

We will win bigly on the low road!

Get with the times... Like we're forced to.

riversedge

(70,185 posts)
25. I do not think we will get anywhere with the label obstructionist--and the msm will gladly
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 04:53 PM
Nov 2016

help the Republicans attach to the Dems.

--damned if we do and damned if we don't.


I just hope Pelosi is the Minority Chair--to help us through this.

 

BlueProgressive

(229 posts)
24. I disagree with Mr. Obama. My #1 Goal is to make sure that Trump
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 04:43 PM
Nov 2016

has only one term to fuck up the country.

Or less.





 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
27. Just because Obama is leaving office doesn't mean it's no longer his fight too.
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 07:24 PM
Nov 2016

Most of what the GOP proposes is worth fighting against .. or obstructing if need be.

Bettie

(16,087 posts)
28. Sorry, but no
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 08:20 PM
Nov 2016

We need to vigorously oppose this orange idiot's agenda.

We need to vigorously oppose Mike Pence's dreams of a theocracy.

We need to vigorously oppose Paul Ryan's dream of people dying in the streets so that he and a few others can get richer than they already are.

I'm so tired of spineless Dems doing the "compromise" dance which ends up being "give them all they asked for and then some".

andym

(5,443 posts)
29. Given what the GOP is likely to propose there will be little difference between obstruction first
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 03:44 AM
Nov 2016

and listening to the proposed policy. Since it is likely that Democrats will have to oppose the regressive policies that will almost certainly be put forth. But as President Obama says, Democrats can listen first and the decide based on their judgement.

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