Hillary Clinton poised to win the popular vote in a massive landslide

[DonViejo]

Source: International Business Times

21 NOV 2016 AT 10:15 ET

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s popular vote victory continued to grow Monday as millions of ballots remained uncounted, according to the latest ballot tally published by the Cook Political Report. The first female major-party nominee has secured nearly 2 million more votes than her opponent, billionaire Donald Trump, despite an Electoral College vote in his favor.

Trump managed to secure well over the 270 electoral votes needed to clinch the presidency, but Clinton appears to have soundly won the popular vote by an ever-expanding margin. She received about 63,600,000 votes to the president-elect's 61,900,000, according to the Cook Political Report. Updated ballot counts show her receiving at least 48 percent of the national vote compared to Trump’s 46.7 percent.

Clinton’s lead has already exceeded the 540,520-vote gap former Democratic candidate Al Gore maintained over former President George W. Bush before the former conceded in the 2000 election.

This year's election results roll in as protests continue erupt throughout the country. Students have been staging walk-outs against Trump’s divisive campaign and vitriolic rhetoric, and millions have circulated online petitions demanding the Electoral College vote in conjunction with the popular vote as "faithless electors."

-snip-



Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/hillary-clinton-poised-to-win-the-popular-vote-in-a-massive-landslide/

[cilla4progress]

1. But Americans are just ready to roll over

and hand him the presidency.

What a pathetic, lame country we've become.

[still_one]

5. because that is how the Constitution is written

[cilla4progress]

12. It also presumes

Legitimate elections. Certainly there is redress for fraud.

[still_one]

14. I hear you, and I even signed the petition for the electors to not let trump in, but

realistically that isn't going to happen

[ericson00]

2. she won the popular vote alright, but 1-2%, or even 3% margin of victory, is considered "close"

because after all, a poll result that showed 48-46 is always a dead heat, as most margins of error are 3-4%, minimum.

"landslide," "decisive," "close" are determined by percentage points, not raw votes.

Self delusion never helped anyone. Let Trump do that with his "mandate."

[Demit]

20. What does a margin of error have to do with an actual vote count?

[ericson00]

22. How else can we define "close?"

Because a 50k margin in 1896 is a much bigger % margin than in 2016, given the increase in the electorates size.

[spooky3]

26. You misunderstand the concept of polling margin of error.

Polls are samples intended to represent an underlying population. The actual votes ARE that population. There is no margin of error.

[Demit]

27. There's no "margin of error" when you are doing an actual count of something.

As of today, Monday, Clinton has 63,662,674 votes compared to Trump's 61,951,063. That is not a guess. That is a tally, of actual ballots.

[ericson00]

29. I'm comparing the difference to a margin of error,

not actually saying that actual results have a margin of error. And I do this because there needs to be SOME harder definition of "close" vs. "a lot" when talking about the results of a popular vote.

[mopinko]

3. ya know what would be great?

if al gore made phone calls to electors.

[kebob]

4. David Pakman:

There would be NO important or unimportant states if we scrapped the Electoral College. The Republican would have to campaign in Massachusetts. The Democrat would have to campaign in Kansas. Every damn vote would count!

[msongs]

15. dumping the EC is a nice idea but first one has to elimnate all the election fraud nt

[nolabels]

23. Don't you get it?

A large patch of land parlays into statehood which guarantees a place at the table. That's important if you have title that once employed Farmhands (and or the three fifths of person known as a slave).

Much has changed in 240 years but the way title's work have not. Nothing is going to change fundamentally till laws of title and it's usage is changed. Until that time expect more of the same

[BeyondGeography]

6. Hopefully she at least comes out in favor of junking the Electoral College

and mention Trump's 2012 statement along those lines. Presidential elections should encompass more than 11 or 12 states. Plus this is twice now in 16 years.

[Yonnie3]

7. 1.3% is not a "massive landslide." nt

[lunamagica]

8. That's no a final number. Her lead keeps growing. nt

[Yonnie3]

11. If you double it, it is still not a "massive landslide."

We lost the Electoral College, which is what counts.

[MFM008]

13. Yeah because none

Of us KNOW that already right?

[Demit]

21. It is a clear indication of who was the people's choice.

As it stands today, her margin is 1,677,041 votes. That's how many more voters wanted Hillary Clinton. That's not something to dismiss cavalierly.

And yes, Yonnie, we know about the Electoral College.

[Bonn1997]

17. But it's not gonna grow to a number that would be considered a massive landslide.

[Bonn1997]

16. Exactly. There are many important election reform issues. Careless, inaccurate language...

just distracts from these issues and gives critics a perceived reason not to take us seriously.

[Yonnie3]

19. Thank you for putting my unease with this headline into words! nt

[Sunlei]

9. what is it now? still 6 million more votes to count?

[TexasBushwhacker]

24. I just don't get that. The election was 2 weeks ago

1. How can they still be counting ballots?

2. Have ALL of the ballots been counted in the states where Trump won by a slim margin?

[Sunlei]

25. I don't know. I read Florida just 'certified' their votes. I don't think the counts are off so far.

1) some states don't even open all the votes. I don't know why

2) I don't know.

wonder what will happen if Hillary wins the popular vote by 5 million or more, she's already at 2 million more then the republican. Electoral votes on 12/8, stay tuned!


I don't think the counts are off. IMO, something's weird about the huge blocks of blank ballots in very close places, like the 90,000 blanks in Detroit. I'd like to know how many people came to the polls to vote and had to vote provisional. And the number of blank ballots rechecked, especially if they use optical scanners.

'Protest non-voters' and those who voted for the 2 'others' ,may have handed trump the keys & cut their own throats out of spite. like was said in Michael Moores prophetic Trumpland

[Demit]

28. Absentee ballots. Mail in ballots which only had to be postmarked by election day.

They estimated 7 million of those, which have to be counted by hand. How quickly do you think 7 million ballots should be counted and recorded? Maybe there should be hundreds of people on hand to do it, like, in one day?

[Hekate]

10. KnR

[mountain grammy]

18. Rigged