Michigan attorney general files lawsuit to halt
Source: Politico
Michigans attorney general has filed a lawsuit to stop a recount of the presidential election results requested by Green Party nominee Jill Stein, his office announced on Friday.
Michigan voters rejected Steins candidacy by massive margins but her refusal to accept that state-verified result poses an expensive and risky threat to hard-working taxpayers and abuses the intent of Michigan law, Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette, a Republican, said. We have asked the court to end the recount which Stein is pursuing in violation of Michigan laws that protect the integrity of our elections. It is inexcusable for Stein to put Michigan voters at risk of paying millions and potentially losing their voice in the Electoral College in the process.
Schuettes lawsuit, filed on behalf of the state, asks the Michigan Board of Canvassers to reject Steins recount request on the grounds that Stein has acknowledged she has no evidence that fraud or widespread errors were committed.
Donald Trump won the state with 2,279,543 votes (47.5 percent), according to the results certified on Nov. 28 10,704 more than Hillary Clintons 2,268,839 (47.3 percent). Stein received just 51,463 votes (1.1 percent).
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/michigan-attorney-general-files-lawsuit-to-halt-recount-232114
Another reason we can't ignore State races.
Vinca
(50,260 posts)It must have been an organized plot to install "The Orange One."
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)The odds Jill Stein won are just about 0%. Its not worth the money to do a recount. Now perhaps Clinton won the state, but then she should have filed for a recount.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)The only reasonable interpretation of Trump's panicked efforts to hide the truth is that the truth will not favor him.
And my comment had nothing to do with Stein.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)If the voters are at risk of paying million the law should be changed so next time the person protesting the vote pays all the cost.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Off to the killfile with you.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)But the taxpayers should not be forced to pay everytime somebody request a recount.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)Last edited Fri Dec 2, 2016, 07:03 PM - Edit history (1)
that prevented Flint residents from suing snyder for willfully poisoning the Flint water supply. Shit is just starting.
edit: THE MICHIGAN BOARD OF ELECTORS denied AG request to halt recount. Michigan recount, by hand, shall go forward
Farmgirl1961
(1,493 posts)JudyM
(29,225 posts)Farmgirl1961
(1,493 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)JudyM
(29,225 posts)RKP5637
(67,103 posts)Botany
(70,489 posts)Any state that used "Crosscheck" should at the very least be challenged.
How many states ran the software program called "crosscheck?" And if so their
outcomes should be challenged. This was not an election but a criminal action
to manipulate the outcome reguardless of how the people voted.
We need an audit of any state that ran "Crosscheck." Call or write the POTUS,
Dem. Congress Critters, the D o J, and the (what I think is useless) DNC.
**********
http://www.gregpalast.com/election-stolen-heres/
Before a single vote was cast, the election was fixed by GOP and Trump operatives.
Starting in 2013 just as the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act a coterie of Trump operatives, under the direction of Kris Kobach, Kansas Secretary of State, created a system to purge 1.1 million Americans of color from the voter rolls of GOPcontrolled states.
The system, called Crosscheck, is detailed in my Rolling Stone report,
The GOPs Stealth War on Voters, 8/24/2016.
Crosscheck in action:
Trump victory margin in Michigan: 13,107
Michigan Crosscheck purge list: 449,922
Trump victory margin in Arizona: 85,257
Arizona Crosscheck purge list: 270,824
Trump victory margin in North Carolina: 177,008
North Carolina Crosscheck purge list: 589,393
On Tuesday, we saw Crosscheck elect a Republican Senate and as President, Donald Trump. The electoral putsch was aided by nine other methods of attacking the right to vote of Black, Latino and Asian-American voters, methods detailed in my book and film, including Caging, purging, blocking legitimate registrations, and wrongly shunting millions to provisional ballots that will never be counted.
Chalco
(1,307 posts)turbinetree
(24,695 posts)not to prosecute the Flint Michigan water fiasco, but to go after some low hanging buddies on the tree of corruption.
Hey AG, guess what, when some one files a lawsuit to have a voter recount in a general election, you can't deny the request, and say it's going to cost to much, if you had a reliable system, and no shenanigans, then you wouldn't have any problems right, what are you trying to hide behind, your political corruption.
Just think how corrupt you and your courts are, you let a right wing governor appoint city managers.
You do realize there zippy, that the citizens or a candidate that was on a ballot has a right to challenge, and they are DEPUTIZED by the Constitution to ask for this recount, because they want to see how your state tallied the vote they cast, it's real simple.
You and your minions are not judge, jury and executioner in this matter--------------so quit whining, lets see if a state actor or your state complete inability to have a integrity voting system in place, because apparently their are some serious questions that need to be asked and answered, because "zippy" it's a democracy, or did you fail that course in law school.
Your Koch allies can't stop this dude, it's not in the cards that you and them continue to stack in your right wing scheme of deceit and deception and outright fraud, not happening
KatyBR
(183 posts)"Schuette, a Republican who is expected to run for governor in 2018, chaired the presidential campaign of former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush before supporting Trump as the party nominee."
<snip>
Mark Brewer, a Southfield attorney representing the Stein campaign, denounced Schuette's action as "unprecedented interference by a partisan attorney general on a matter that should be handled routinely by the Board of Canvassers."
<snip>
Stein issued a news release Friday afternoon that said: We wont stand down as Donald Trump and his allies seek to frivolously obstruct the legal processes set up to ensure the accuracy, security and fairness of our elections." She said that "by putting party politics above country, Trump is needlessly delaying what should be a routine verification of the democratic process."
http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/12/02/mich-ag-schuette-moves-halt-presidential-recount/94797612/
turbinetree
(24,695 posts)and as soon as the "general" public come to this reality the better off they will be.
As for the AG of this state he also is a serial predator supporter and a fascist, so for him to go around and yell "law and order" maybe he should go back to school and be re-taught on what serial predators are, and then if he passes that exam, then he should be fired.
When someone a "law enforcement officer" in that position thinks that when someone on a presidential ballot cannot demand a recount in a election, then just maybe they should pack there right wing racist fascist supporting bags and go over and live in Russia.
The dumpster/ right wing republican party operatives knows that the machines were hacked, the U.S. Justice Department is now stating in not so many words that a a state actor "Russia" had access to machines in the election process.
And the drumpster can whine all he wants, he is a loser, and authoritarian narcissistic megalomaniac hypocrite, trying his hardest to pad his bankrupted wealth off the backs of the treasury in this country.
If Stein and Clinton want me to send money to help find out what happened so be it, what his he and his right wing party afraid of, that something smells fishing in this election, they can run but they can't hide
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)turbinetree
(24,695 posts)he went and approved with the help of the state supreme court to give the governor of the state the right to circumvent ballots in cities, because Font sizes, and to "install" managers". the state is not some corporation, the voters made a decision to use the state Constitution to ask for a recount---------------there is no if's or and's about this.
Stein and Clinton where on the national ballot, they can by law request a recount, in any state-------------the only way they can stop it is to go to the U.S. Supreme Court and right now its 4 and 4 and all ties go to the person requesting the action, what are they afraid of, questions are being asked and these tow people on the national ballot and people that want to know what happened want answers, the DOJ in no uncertain terms has said that a state actor "Russia" has hacked some machines, why would 6 members on the intelligence committee send a letter to tell the president to tell the people of this country what they know and what he should be telling us, the citizens of this country
If I lived in that state everyday I would be on that public sidewalk, with a sign that says, the AG, Governor and the state supreme court are fascists.
Marriage equality is a human being issue, that should be private issue between human beings, no one and I mean no one as some right to deny or infringe on a human being to have feelings for someone else--what a jerk
CincyDem
(6,350 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)(since they got away with it in 2000 and 2004) they expect to let the Republican clerks and Republican appointed court system steal it for them
So here we have a Republican governor,Republican State House,a Republican AG so so could we have expected anything different?
They are hiding something.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)The AG must know that some glaring examples of 'voting irregularities' will be uncovered that will point all the way to the top in Michigan. He must be pissing his pants.
DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)Michigan's automatic recount threshold is 2,000 vote margin in statewide races. But they must be worried about something.
world wide wally
(21,740 posts)(Maybe swamp would be a better word)
kerouac2
(449 posts)Not only would that money go to the state and workers, but think about the bump in revenue local biz (ie: restaurants and hotels) might have because of this...
Seems like a win win for MI residents and they should come down on their AG for turning his back on a clear benefit to them...
Farmgirl1961
(1,493 posts)Send an email now:
To: elections@michigan.gov
Subject Heading: Recount
To the Michigan Bureau of Elections:
I am writing to express strong support for the recount of votes cast in Michigan in the recent presidential election. I strongly oppose any effort by Donald Trump or anyone else to block or impede this recount.
Sincerely,
Your Name
pandr32
(11,578 posts)cstanleytech
(26,280 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,123 posts)ought to be illegal
and an AG ought to know better!
B2G
(9,766 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,123 posts)is an investigation of sorts
it requires sunshine
B2G
(9,766 posts)And it's not an investigation.
Sorry, but it's just not.
bucolic_frolic
(43,123 posts)it's how we as a country decide things
not counting ballots is against everything a democracy stands for
It is an investigation of sorts - investigating how voters cast their ballots and
for whom
it may not meet the legal terms of an investigation, but that's what it is
and to deep six it because some political entity says so is in essence
squelching it
B2G
(9,766 posts)Which is called due process.
Farmgirl1961
(1,493 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)I'm thinking they're going to give significant thought to whether or not the recount can be finished before the EC votes.
If it can't, I think the recount will not go forward. The public outcry would be deafening.
If Stein had offered any kind of proof of tampering, that would be another story, but she didn't. That will weigh heavy on the ultimate decision, I'm sure.
PRETZEL
(3,245 posts)all 3 are going to reject Ms. Stein's recount petition.
Whoever makes the first decision will automatically have their opinion as legal basis for the other 2. Same would be said if it's allowed to go forward.
And naturally, that same opinion will be challenged.
RoccoR2
(90 posts)it will will all come out in the wash
wisteria
(19,581 posts)enid602
(8,612 posts)Schuette was a classmate of mine at Georgetoen. His step father was CEO of Dow Chemical.
inwiththenew
(972 posts)Like he's saying or would she have to pay everything up front?
B2G
(9,766 posts)"Schuettes suit refers to her request as dilatory and frivolous, and his office argues Steins campaign will pay less than $800,000 for the recount, leaving taxpayers to cover the remainder of a bottom line that could balloon to $5 million."
I thought the cost to Stein was in the millions, not $800K
KatyBR
(183 posts)Cost of Michigan Recount
The total cost of the recount in the three states combined will be approximately $9.5 million, given the unexpected fee increase in Wisconsin from $1.1 to $3.5 million. The money will cover required payments to states, lawyers, volunteer recruitment and other technical assistance.
The filing fee for a recount in Michigan is $973,250.
The Stein campaign is currently recruiting volunteers to observe the hand recount that would take place in 19 sites where the votes were cast.
Volunteers can sign up and get more information on http://www.Jill2016.com/recountMI.
source: http://www.jill2016.com/recountmiinfo
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)It is OKAY for America's voting system to be audited. You don't need to be afraid of it.
Actually, there should be random auditing post-elections all across this country. We have a right to know if the system is working properly.