Judge orders immediate start of Michigan recount
Source: Detroit Free Press
A federal judge early Monday morning ordered a recount of Michigan's presidential ballots to begin at noon on Monday, and for the state to "assemble necessary staff to work sufficient hours" to complete the recount by a Dec. 13 federal deadline.
Lawyers for Green Party candidate Jill Stein urged the action in an emergency request, and U.S. District Judge Mark Goldsmith held a rare Monday hearing in federal court. It lasted three hours, and Goldsmith issued a written opinion just after midnight on Monday morning.
Goldsmith said a state law requiring a two business day waiting period to start the recount likely violates voting rights.
"With the perceived integrity of the presidential election as it was conducted in Michigan at stake, concerns with cost pale in comparison," Goldsmith said in his opinion.
Read more: http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/04/michigan-recount-decision-jill-stein-donald-trump/94952282/
orleans
(33,986 posts)MFM008
(19,776 posts)Hekate
(90,189 posts)Cha
(295,899 posts)C Moon
(12,188 posts)Ellipsis
(9,123 posts)cstanleytech
(26,080 posts)certain SCOTUS judges couldnt understand that in another case a decade ago.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)it would be too hard to get a recount in all of them. But all it will take is an electoral college reversal in just one for the press to start screaming for a recount in all the others----since they now hate Trump the way they hated Nixon.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Let's Get Started Recounting Michigan, Monday at Noon. We have a deadline clock to meet by December 13, 2016. Good job Jill Stein and all supporters of #Recount2016 - Michigan, #EveryVoteCounts efforts.
Aimee in OKC
(157 posts)FOUR CRAZY ELECTION OUTCOMES IN MACOMB
" Without even trying, the Macomb Republican Party had its best showing in more than 60 years for the Big Five countywide offices clerk, treasurer, public works commissioner, sheriff and prosecutor winning three of the five seats. "
https://www.politicscentral.org/four-crazy-election-outcomes-macomb/
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DONALD TRUMP'S POLLSTER SAYS THE ELECTION CAME DOWN TO FIVE COUNTIES
When you really drill down on this election, if you change the vote in five counties, four in Florida, one in Michigan, wed be having a totally opposite conversation right now, Fabrizio said of the race.
In Michigan, Fabrizio is likely referring to Macomb County, which neighbors Detroit, where Trump beat Clinton by nearly 50,000 votes. The county voted for President Obama twice and was the birthplace of Reagan Democrats. The vote differential here played a huge role in the small 10,000-vote margin by which Trump won Michigan overall.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/12/02/donald-trump-s-pollster-says-the-election-came-down-to-five-counties.html
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Need to be watched, closely. In particular, the City of Detroit had issues with the Mayoral Primary Race in 2013 and Macomb County -- yeah, close eyes need to be placed there too.
Aimee in OKC
(157 posts)Macomb County = 336 precincts
https://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/#year/2016/state/26/county/99
POLLING PLACE EQUIPMENT
Premier/Diebold (Dominion)= AccuVote OS ... Optical Scan
Election Systems & Software= Model 100 ... Optical Scan
https://www.verifiedvoting.org/resources/voting-equipment/
BALLOT BOX ACCESS = Optical scan systems have at least one and possible more ballot boxes. Each ballot box should be inspected by a voter at the beginning of voting to make sure that they are empty. These ballot boxes should locked and/or be sealed with tamper-evident tape.
KNOWN SECURITY CONCERNS:
*AccuVote OS = Used in 37 Michigan counties
SECURITY SEALS = Ideally, the OSs exposed ports, memory card access areas, ballot box doors and case seams would be covered with tamper-evident security seals. The integrity of these seals should be maintained at all times, and only breached under controlled, explained circumstances. Seals should be logged to maintain chain of custody of sensitive materials.
KEYS = The keys for the AccuVote-OS are the same for all AccuVote-OS machines and are easily pickable with readily available tools. Care should be observed around the ballot box lock and the scanner key lock (turns the system off and on).
MEMORY CARD IS SENSITIVE = Corrupt memory cards may be able introduce viruses, cause the main election server to crash and falsify votes. Access to the memory card should be controlled, monitored and logged at all times.
CORRECT INKS = Some Optical Scan systems have trouble reading red inks or inks with red in them. Voters should use the writing instrument provided at the polling place or, if voting at home, black ballpoint pen that does not bleed through paper.
*ES&S M100 = Used in 18 Michigan counties
SECURITY SEALS = Ideally, the M100s exposed ports, memory card access areas, ballot box doors and case seams would be covered with tamper-evident security seals. The integrity of these seals should be maintained at all times, and only breached under controlled, explained circumstances. Seals should be logged to maintain chain of custody of sensitive materials.
MEMORY CARD IS SENSITIVE = Corrupt memory cards may be able introduce viruses, cause the main election server to crash and falsify votes. Access to the memory card should be controlled, monitored and logged at all times.
KEYS = The keys for the M100 are the same for all M100 machines and are easily pickable with readily available tools. Care should be observed around the ballot box lock and the scanner key lock (turns the system off and on).
COUNTERFEIT BALLOTS = It is fairly easy to frustrate the counterfeit ballot detection mechanism on the M100. People who produce counterfeit ballots could cast multiple votes and the detectability of these ballots would only depend on how close they appeared to be like the real ballot cards.
CORRECT INKS = Some Optical Scan systems have trouble reading red inks or inks with red in them. Voters should use the writing instrument provided at the polling place or, if voting at home, black ballpoint pen that does not bleed through paper.
Land Shark
(6,346 posts)riversedge
(69,708 posts)KewlKat
(5,624 posts)presidential pick. That is more than twice what a normal presidential election should generate. Would be great if Hilliary picked up 40K in those and win MI!
MichMan
(11,778 posts)Write in votes in Michigan are only recorded if a candidate is registered for write in. If someone wrote in Bernie Sanders, Elvis, Mickey Mouse , or Oprah, all of those would have correctly be recorded as no votes.
I would suspect Bernie received a substantial number of those.
There's still a bubble next to the write in. You have to fill in the bubble even if you write in a name, otherwise it's not a vote (it says this on the ballot.)
Write ins may be the cause of this, but in Iowa they'd still be registered as a vote.
MichMan
(11,778 posts)In Michigan all of what you said is true, but a write in candidate must register ahead of time to be eligible for it to count.
Since Bernie did not do that, any write in votes with his name are counted as no votes for President.
This may not be the same in other states.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Raster
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