Democrats concede: No shutdown over coal miner health benefits
Source: CNN
A threat of a government shutdown ended Friday evening, according to top Democratic senators, who conceded they lacked the support to block a funding bill that must pass by midnight to avert a potential crisis.
The development came after a day of back-channel negotiations aimed at alleviating concerns from coal-state Democrats who wanted a longer extension of expiring health benefits for retired coal miners. Democrats failed to secure enough votes to that extension.
The Senate will soon vote to pass the funding bill on the eve of the shutdown deadline and adjourn the 114th Congress.
"I think we made our point," said Sen. Chuck Schumer, a New York Democrat and incoming Senate minority leader.
Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/09/politics/government-shutdown/index.html
benld74
(9,901 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Ilsa
(61,690 posts)by supporting trump.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)abortion is ended, guns are expanded, God is obeyed (their version of it), and minorities kept in their place, you can hand them a knife and they will gladly slit their own wrists and throats.
LenaBaby61
(6,972 posts)To show how spineless Dems are.
But then again, most of the folks whose health benefits they were trying to extend voted FOR tRump AND are ignorant fools who'll probably believe when tRump tells them that it was Pres. Obama's fault that they didn't have their health benefits extended.
MOVE on Dems. Pick your battles wisely IF you can.
To THOSE gumpuses who voted for tRump & the GOP and who will be angry that their benefits won't be extended:
To those who didn't vote for tRump and voted Dem and their benefits are done away with: , and they have my sympathies.
Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)rurallib
(62,379 posts)lastlib
(23,152 posts)At the very least, put up a friggin' FIGHT!
still_one
(92,061 posts)miners, so what was the point?
christx30
(6,241 posts)I expect this post is going to get hidden. I'm just not looking forward to republican and trump victories for the next 2 years. Hopefully this will wake up people that felt they were too good to vote for Hillary.
still_one
(92,061 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)PBO's SC nomination. They took the "HRC will just pick when she gets in" attitude and barely brought up the GOP obstructionism.
True_Blue
(3,063 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,044 posts)to coal mining states and coal mining families
They'd better get used to it
dhill926
(16,314 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,972 posts)Well see, they'll probably fall for the "The reason you lost your health benefits package was because of Obama's bad economy and Obamacare."
Interloper-in-chief Donald J. Trump.
Many of the coal mining families who voted for tRump and who hated Pres. Obama, his family and Dems:
"That damn Kenyan, Marxist, Muslim N-word, his ape in heels wearing wife, and those damn Liberals."
doc03
(35,295 posts)in WV had a Trump sign in it and the state of WV is totally controlled by Republicans. Elections have consequences, sorry.
Well at least all the coal miners will be working starting Jan 20th.
DBoon
(22,340 posts)nt
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)especially once they gut Social Security.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)other and themselves by supporting the fascist.
cstanleytech
(26,236 posts)find some delusional way to blame the Democrats.
Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)elmac
(4,642 posts)guess we better start kissing sniffles ass.
mdbl
(4,973 posts)There's a lot more where that came from!
ananda
(28,834 posts)But we all knew that going in, so we shouldn't be surprised
really.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)democrank
(11,085 posts)Actually, his newest point is exactly like most of the old points.
* Give up early
* Don't back up what you say
* Run, don't fight
* Never make a promise you can't break
* Never hold principled positions that are difficult to abandon
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)dhol82
(9,352 posts)Bunch of freaking shits.
Sad that we don't have dem candidates that give a fuck!
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)is Kabuki theater.
The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater. Frank Zappa
dhol82
(9,352 posts)0rganism
(23,927 posts)thanks Chuck, you're doing a heckuva job already
I think there was a Buy American provision, too, but we didn't learn enough from the last election to support it, either.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)Damn coal miners who supported trump and the team who want them to work until they drop dead or are killed in a mining accident due to poor regulation enforcement.
0rganism
(23,927 posts)a lot of the working stiffs across the midwest voted for Trump because they believed he'd fight for them, when Democrats just give up on them
so now we can give up on them all over again. i don't know if our leadership gets the message, but i'm pretty sure those Trump voters who voted for Obama got a message loud and clear
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Highway system privatized. Schools privatized, watch how fast Betsy Devos destroys the school system.
Back to drinking.
CrispyQ
(36,421 posts)Wish you were being sarcastic with this post, but I suspect you're not, & I also fear the things you wrote will come to pass. I'm trying not to feel alarmed, but I really do think we passed a tipping point with this election.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)Trump did not win a mandate, Hillary and Democratic ideals won the popular vote by over 2%. If you fold we look weak, if you fight we have your back. If this is any indication of how the next 4 years will go we can say goodbye to ever having the Presidency again.
cstanleytech
(26,236 posts)make the gains they would have needed to help the miners so if those miners want help then they need to help the Democrats win elections.
hibbing
(10,094 posts)Unfortunately, I have a feeling we'll be hearing a lot of that.
Peace
angrychair
(8,678 posts)Republicans cut their benefits.
Elections have consequences.
Democrats tried to protect them but Democrats did not cut their benefits
When they lose these coal miner's health benefits, SNAP, ACA, Medicare and Medicaid it will not be Democrats fault.
atreides1
(16,066 posts)But it won't matter, because the Republicans will not extend those benefits to miners or their families...and the only thing that will be remembered by those miners is that the Democrats didn't put up much of a fight!
By not fighting, the Republicans will claim that the Democrats were just showboating, and did not have any intention to extend benefits!
And guess who those miners are going to believe, and instead of going to work for Trump, Manchin will probably become a Republican!
atreides1
(16,066 posts)They all should have to carry a large white handkerchief, and every time they are on the floor of the House or the Senate, the backs of their coats should have a large yellow stripe...
And each time they "make their point" or "keep their powder dry", they have to wave their handkerchiefs and walk out of the chambers wearing their yellow backed coats!!!
Nwgirl503
(406 posts)Roll over. Play nice. Go high when they go low. Let's see where that gets us.
Oh ya....it gets us with this POS POTUS. SMH. Is turtling a hashtag? It should be. Welcome to the next four, if not eight years. And that's if we make it that long.
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MFM008
(19,803 posts)Porcupines have sharp thingies, dogs bark, Popes are catholic the list of stuff we know goes on and on............
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)elleng
(130,732 posts)How, exactly?
Jeroen
(1,061 posts)Vinca
(50,236 posts)Paladin
(28,243 posts)Get your shit together, Schumer. Either stand up to this evil new regime in the Senate, or watch people dying in the streets because of what you and other Senate Democrats failed to accomplish.
Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)putitinD
(1,551 posts)olddad56
(5,732 posts)putitinD
(1,551 posts)Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Yeah, you did Chuck. You have shown the GOP you will not fight them on anything. You have shown the working class that you will not fight for them if it is going to be a tough battle.
This is why Democrats are losing in Congress and in all the states -- because they just roll over when the GOP puts up a fight.
We need to get all of these weak Democrats and elect those that will stand up for the average person.
CrispyQ
(36,421 posts)Yes, Senator, you did. It's the same point you've made for the past 35 years - that the dems are weak. They don't have a spine & they don't know how to fight. The dems aren't going to save the country from the ravages of Trump. The repubs are going to act fast & bold to dismantle all the progress of last century & the dems will be lucky if they ever see power again. Perhaps if the dems had been a true opposition party over the past 35 years we wouldn't be in this mess.
Docreed2003
(16,850 posts)I could give a rats ass who any of these coal miners voted for. At the end of the day, curbing their benefits is wrong! Schuer says that Sen Dems "made their point", and I ask, What point is that exactly?? When standing for what is right for a group of Americans and then caving to the demands of the opposition is making a point, I shudder to think what type of opposition these Senators will have to a full on Trump administration. Standing up for what is right and representing people who are about to be stripped of what is rightfullly theirs, no matter how the hell they voted in the election, used to be a democratic value. When was the last time you saw a Democratic Party leader get their hands dirty in the way RFK did in the late 60's. RFK went to Appalachia and witnessed the poverty first hand, he went to the poverty stricken inner cities across the US at the time and saw the devestation that had riddled that community, and when migrant workers were being mistreated in California, even though the issue wasn't on his radar prior to Sen hearings, he went to California and stood up for the workers hand in hand with Caesar Chavez against the bully corporations. We need leaders in the party who aren't afraid of a fight, who will not cave to opposition, and will stand for what is right in the face of "bullies", no matter the cost...even if the people they are fighting for may not vote for them. They do it because it is right. If the Dems cant find that type of leadership and courage, then the next four/eight years will be very long indeed.
CBHagman
(16,981 posts)The Democrats picked up a couple of seats in the election but are still in the minority. It's a waste of everyone's time here to fume and call names as though you could personally do better. It's circular firing squad time on DU, and it better end pretty soon or there will just be a lot of impotent whining.
ananda
(28,834 posts)And stick-to-it-iveness
Grins
(7,195 posts)"Tough. You voted Republican; this is what you get. Now lie back and enjoy your Freedumb!"