Trump says nobody really knows if climate change is real

[Blue Shoes]

Source: Washington Post

President-elect Donald Trump said Sunday that “nobody really knows” whether climate change is real and that he is “studying” whether the United States should withdraw from the global warming agreement struck in Paris a year ago.

In an interview with “Fox News Sunday” host Chris Wallace, Trump said he’s “very open-minded” on whether climate change is underway but has serious concerns about how President Obama’s efforts to cut carbon emissions have undercut America’s global competitiveness.

“I’m still open-minded. Nobody really knows,” Trump said. “Look, I’m somebody that gets it, and nobody really knows. It’s not something that’s so hard and fast. I do know this: Other countries are eating our lunch.”

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"Nobody knows if climate change is real", except how everyone knows climate change is real, we just won't do anything about it

[KewlKat]

1. and President Gore said he had an "intelligent" conversation with the Con......go figure.

Guess the Con didn't listen much and perhaps Al was the only one that spoke....oh wait....was the FLOTUS stand-in in that meeting? Maybe she was the one Al was referring to?

[Blue Shoes]

3. Honestly , you could probably have a better conversation with a rock. nt

[wendyb]

10. haha

that is not an exaggeration

[Blue Shoes]

18. welcome to DU. nt

[KewlKat]

16. ok, i say we sell orange rocks with little yellow wigs and market them as trump dolls.....

we could get started on raising money to bail out the protestors and hire attorneys to fight voter suppression.

[INdemo]

22. A coversation with a Rock would be better than with any Republican

Trust me I know I have been arguing with these idiots for 50 years and nothing,I mean nothing has changed.
No doubt the right wing idiocy is bred into them and passed down from generation to generation...

[Fast Walker 52]

19. Gore really needs to give more details about what happened

this is major major stuff

[putitinD]

2. Most of the Trump supporters probably never even heard of climate change.

[Brother Buzz]

4. Donald Trump calls global warming a hoax, until it threatens his golf course

Donald Trump calls global warming a hoax, until it threatens his golf course

Donald Trump has mixed feelings about climate change.

In January 2014, he publicly wondered how the United States could be spending money to combat what, in his words, was a “GLOBAL WARMING HOAX.” In October, when Trump was bitten by the autumnal chill, the Republican presidential candidate snarked on Twitter that he could use “a big fat dose of global warming.” He told The Washington Post editorial board in March that he is “not a great believer in man-made climate change.”

But when it came to protecting his own investments from global warming’s effects, Trump canned the screaming capital letters and jokes. Instead, Trump wants to curtail climate change with a wall.


The Trump International Golf Links Ireland, a golf course by the sea in Ireland’s County Clare, faces the Atlantic’s pounding waves and coastal erosion. As Politico reported Monday, the Trump Organization has submitted a permit to build a sea wall, which cites rising sea levels from climate change as a threat. Not just any wall will do — one plan called for a limestone barricade 20 meters wide, what Friends of the Irish Environment’s Tony Lowes described to CNBC as a “monster sea wall” in March.


As part of the approval process to build the sea wall, Trump International Golf Links filed an environmental-impact statement. It includes specific concern for erosion, beyond one governmental study that did not take into account sea-level rise from climate change, according to Politico.

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[lagomorph777]

36. He'll have a lot more properties underwater soon.

And I am not talking about the mortgages.

[subterranean]

5. He says he's "very open-minded." His Cabinet picks say otherwise.

[Blue Shoes]

12. One thing he's mastered is double-speak.

I assume he'll still be saying this as hes signing a repeal to the Paris accords.

[SHRED]

6. He says stupid shit like "eating our lunch"

Mentally he hasn't made it past grade school.

[DetlefK]

7. 97% of all climate-scientists and virtually all governments of planet Earth know.

[Freethinker65]

8. Dare him to say "Nobody really knows if God is real"

[arithia]

9. Other countries are "eating our lunch"?

Perhaps that's because of cheap @ssholes like you who outsource American jobs overseas where your shit products are assembled (often times by children) for slave wages.

98% of Climate Scientists came to the same conclusion. The 2% who disagree have been shown to be in the pockets of the oil industry and similar polluters.

Miami is being swallowed. Warming climates have resulted in the moving of agricultural industries to states where it was previously too damn cold to grow for profit. Our military is concerned about losing BASES to sea level rise- it's a matter of national security to address these problems. But what does Don the Con care about national security when he and his cronies stand to profit?

[forgotmylogin]

11. "I'm somebody that gets it" grrrr

Why wouldn't you want to put your support behind saving the planet instead of saying "until someone hands me a legitimate piece of scorched ice with the words global warming is real on it, let's continue to wantonly exploit the resources"?

[MFM008]

13. Hoping the sky falls in

On his head first.

[SamKnause]

14. Yes he did.

And Chris Wallace sat there with his entire fist up his ass and didn't

say a fucking word to correct the orange, bloated, fucking liar.

Fox 'news' and their loyal followers are the greatest threat this country faces.

They elected Trump and this country WILL NEVER be the same.

Something should have been done about Fox 'news' and hate radio decades ago.

[mulsh]

15. Trump's chief environmental adviser found

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[MBS]

17. in the same interview, he said

that he's a "smart guy" so doesn't need intelligence briefings every day.
And also continues to maintain, against clear and easily verified factual evidence, that he won in an "electoral landslide." (His electoral margin is something like 46th out of 58 elections).

Aside from his ignorance, horrifying appointments, horrifying policy positions, and overall reprehensible character, he is also, I believe, a seriously disturbed person.

For all of these reasons, his presence in the White House poses a real danger to our national security. I've never felt this way before, even with the worst of his predecessors

I also cringe at the thought of him and his family and his staff as representatives of our country to the world.
Especially in contrast with the Obama administration

I hope that we can somehow survive this period of darkness.

[Fast Walker 52]

20. more than anything else, IMO, the media silence on climate change this election was criminal

a complete BETRAYAL of humanity.

Psychopaths in charge

[Botany]

21. "Trump says nobody really knows if climate change is real"

O2 has a molecular weight of 32 and CO2 has a molecular weight of 44.
CO2 has more mass then O2 so it can hold more energy aka "heat." The
science is done.

200 year old science ..... one of the gas laws from freshman chemistry ....
shows that a container of gas with CO2 in it will hold more heat then a
container of gas with O2 in it.

[ismnotwasm]

23. He believes in profit more

I don't think he is stupid, I think he doesn't give shit. Anyone who is reasonable and sane "believes" in climate change. Trump wants to deregulate more that he wants to bother with scientific evidences

[Charles Bukowski]

30. You're giving Trump too much credit.

Trump is a simpleton with early onset dementia.

The only difference between him and the shitheads who watch Fox News and listen to Rush is his fame and bank balance.

[Bradical79]

24. Maybe he needs to profit from it

If it comes to it, as an exisential hail mary, maybe we need to figure out a bunch of ways for him to personally profit from doing the right thing.

[pansypoo53219]

25. i KNEW it in 1985. he doesn't cause he only GOLFS in nature.

nothings is NORMAL anymore.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

26. Companies on Climate: Trump or No, Still Cutting Emissions

Companies on Climate: Trump or No, Still Cutting Emissions

Executive summary: no one in a position of responsibility is reckless enough to believe Jump, darn dolt. To do so is to risk disaster.

Companies on Climate: Trump or No, Still Cutting Emissions

Scott Pruitt’s appointment to lead EPA doesn’t change corporate strategies

By Bradley Olson and Cassandra Sweet

https://twitter.com/bradnews

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http://twitter.com/CassandraSweet

Updated Dec. 8, 2016 3:26 p.m. ET

Many big corporations continue to support efforts to reduce carbon emissions, vowing to stay the course despite the election of Donald Trump, who has promised to dismantle the Obama administration’s climate agenda and this week chose a global-warming skeptic to lead the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. ... From Houston to Silicon Valley, executives in the oil, power, retail, transportation and technology industries said their companies were locked into a lower-emissions trajectory driven in part by market forces, such as cheaper prices for natural gas and wind power.
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While many companies shared their positions with The Wall Street Journal on climate regulations before Mr. Pruitt’s selection, several reached again afterward, including Wal-Mart Stores Inc. and Google parent Alphabet Inc., said their stance remained unchanged.
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While the question of how and whether to respond to warming global temperatures continues to be debated in politics, especially among Republicans, many big corporations appear to see the transition to less carbon-intensive energy as a foregone conclusion—and ultimately good for business. Companies world-wide committed a record $285 billion to clean energy projects in 2015, according to a study by the Frankfurt School of Finance and Management.

Days after the Nov. 8 U.S. election, Exxon Mobil Corp. signaled its continued support for the Paris climate deal. Suzanne McCarron, Exxon’s vice president of public and government affairs, said on Twitter that the agreement was “an important step forward by governments in addressing the serious risks of #ClimateChange.”

[Buckeye_Democrat]

27. Funny how science takes a backseat when it might hurt business, eh?

Smoking, leaded gasoline emissions, etc.

If a bunch of companies produced mercury waste, we'd hear Limbaugh and others arguing that nobody really knows if consuming mercury causes brain damage.

[QED]

28. Isn't Ivanka working on climate change policy?

I think I read something about Ivanka and Gore working on this. Wish she'd knock some sense into her dad - if anyone can it's Ivanka or her husband.

[ladjf]

29. Trump probably knows that his statement is ridiculous. nt

[GreydeeThos]

31. Trump doen't really know; he doesn't get to speak for everybody

Trump is below a denier, he just flat out does not have the mental capacity to even 'know'. True scientists around the world have written peer reviewed papers showing climate change is real. Trump doesn't know what a scientist is either.

[milestogo]

32. Yeah, its kind of like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

We think we know what they're like, but they could be a product of our collective imaginations.

[Javaman]

33. We, as a world, were skidding down the slope of no return pretty fast

once the orange jerk gets in, that skid will go into free fall.

It's been a fun ride folks, but the party is over.

[NickB79]

34. It's the O'Reilly school of scientific literacy!

[NickB79]

35. Actually, the Insane Clown Posse said it better