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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 12:24 PM Dec 2016

Tom Arnold says he's got recordings of Trump using racial slurs and calling son a 'retard'

Source: RawStory

TRAVIS GETTYS
19 DEC 2016 AT 10:09 ET

Comedian Tom Arnold says he’s got recordings of Donald Trump using racial slurs and making other offensive statements — and he said hundreds of people have heard them.

Arnold appeared Friday on Dori Monson’s KIRO-AM radio program, where he revealed that he has a copy of the infamous recordings made while Trump was the star of NBC’s “The Apprentice” reality TV show, reported My Northwest. The recordings are a compilation of various statements Trump made on camera that weren’t aired, and Arnold said those recordings have circulated within the entertainment industry.

“When the people sent it to me, it was funny,” Arnold said. “Hundreds of people have seen these. It was sort of a Christmas video they put together. He wasn’t going to be president of the United States. It was him sitting in that chair saying the N-word, saying the C-word, calling his son a retard, just being so mean to his own children. ‘Oh, this is so funny, this is this guy.'”

Arnold said he was called Nov. 6 by Arnold Schwarzenegger’s agent, who was sitting next to Hillary Clinton, and asked to release the recordings — but he refused to protect the show’s employees who made the video compilation.

-snip-





Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/tom-arnold-says-hes-got-recordings-of-trump-using-racial-slurs-and-calling-son-a-retard/

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Tom Arnold says he's got recordings of Trump using racial slurs and calling son a 'retard' (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2016 OP
Is this the assembling misdemeanors stage? bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #1
Last line is a little confusing forgotmylogin Dec 2016 #17
I don't think he did release them. He just said he has them. n/t hughee99 Dec 2016 #20
Right, he didn't release them forgotmylogin Dec 2016 #43
I agree. If he's not going to release them, he shouldn't have mentioned this at all, and if he was hughee99 Dec 2016 #45
Protect them from Trump suing them, is how I read it. CrispyQ Dec 2016 #24
I misread the last line - it's ambiguously phrased forgotmylogin Dec 2016 #41
I think there's supposed to be a comma there... hughee99 Dec 2016 #46
How Are They Protected Now, Hugh? ProfessorGAC Dec 2016 #89
I agree the excuse doesn't make any sense, but without the comma, the sentence doesn't make sense. hughee99 Dec 2016 #91
What a comedian. It's all about timing.... unblock Dec 2016 #2
i see what you did there...LOL pnwest Dec 2016 #4
If released 11/6 it might have helped HRC, or drawn more racists out of hiding for Trump. Hoyt Dec 2016 #3
Tom Arnold's claim to fame was what, he married Roseanne? brush Dec 2016 #81
Which son did he insult? pangaia Dec 2016 #5
Probably Donnie Jr. underpants Dec 2016 #6
Eric, the dimwit, was on often Brother Buzz Dec 2016 #13
We stopped watching when Donnie Jr. showed up underpants Dec 2016 #78
Did you see the SNL "Trump Family Feud" skit? Tanuki Dec 2016 #84
I totally missed that! Brother Buzz Dec 2016 #85
Barron, maybe? the rumor is that he is autistic secondwind Dec 2016 #9
That is what I thought too Sanity Claws Dec 2016 #10
If he is on the spectrum, of course JenniferJuniper Dec 2016 #27
Exactly. Remember the reporter Trump mocked? Crash2Parties Dec 2016 #86
That was my guess as well, for reasons mentioned below. pangaia Dec 2016 #39
Maybe he'll improve after Melania keeps rubbing his naked body with fish eggs? Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #64
That's apparently why Trump is on the anti-vaccine bandwagon MrPurple Dec 2016 #67
Some people are saying his youngest son looks to be autistic. I'm guessing that's the reference. C Moon Dec 2016 #25
I saw a few seconds of video of Barron Ilsa Dec 2016 #51
I can see it for his older adult sons exboyfil Dec 2016 #80
Now He Tells Us erpowers Dec 2016 #7
Wonder what he said about his porn model wife? Or his 'piece of ass' daughter? keithbvadu2 Dec 2016 #8
My guess is he speaks very disrespectfully to his wife and about his wife Sanity Claws Dec 2016 #12
Melania was smart enough to plagiarize a smart woman, Michelle. keithbvadu2 Dec 2016 #42
Was his wife actually in porn, or did she basically just pose nude in suggestive poes? whathehell Dec 2016 #52
Depends on your viewpoint. keithbvadu2 Dec 2016 #55
Some softcore arty lesbian stuff. Dave Starsky Dec 2016 #77
Thanks.. whathehell Dec 2016 #87
This is a very sick country and we do not know if this may have energized more to vote Trump. That lunasun Dec 2016 #11
Better late than never, I guess. Paladin Dec 2016 #14
And this helps us how? Aristus Dec 2016 #15
Exactly Runningdawg Dec 2016 #29
Thanks for putting "The Apprentice's" staffers ahead of America, Tom! bluedigger Dec 2016 #16
And no one bothered to come forward? B2G Dec 2016 #18
why Republicans wanted him, he'll probaby want to join in the torture of whatever Rs cut o the day Sunlei Dec 2016 #19
It wouldn't have mattered BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #21
Fuck Tom Arnold lark Dec 2016 #22
this Afromania Dec 2016 #36
AGREED 100% MrPurple Dec 2016 #66
Please...him using the N or C word would just energize half his base Nwgirl503 Dec 2016 #23
It was funny? Really Tom? greatbaldeagle Dec 2016 #26
I can *kinda* understand dismissing some stuff when it's not about the leader of the Free World... forgotmylogin Dec 2016 #44
Not only that oldtime dfl_er Dec 2016 #53
I Can See It GBE ProfessorGAC Dec 2016 #90
It might have been nice to have heard about this in late October. Vinca Dec 2016 #28
In October, everyone though Clinton had it in the bag TexasBushwhacker Dec 2016 #31
You're probably right, although calling his own son a "retard" might have had an impact. Vinca Dec 2016 #34
It kind of depends on which son it is TexasBushwhacker Dec 2016 #38
To think, Tom Arnold could have saved this country so much grief. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #30
And not just stupid. zentrum Dec 2016 #74
tapes enid602 Dec 2016 #32
kick Angry Dragon Dec 2016 #33
Listen to the recording. At about 13:40 in, he says, "Yeah, the tape IS coming out". PearliePoo2 Dec 2016 #35
If nothing else, it will embarass the gop amd expose Trump's supporters GusFring Dec 2016 #60
If these recordings have been circulated within the entertainment industry, PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #37
Yeah, I don't buy it DrToast Dec 2016 #47
They have been mentioned in the past, JenniferJuniper Dec 2016 #48
Mark Burnett and Trump have been publicly threatening .99center Dec 2016 #57
But if they'd been widely circulated, it shouldn't be that difficult PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #63
"Arnold said those recordings have circulated within the entertainment industry." .99center Dec 2016 #65
If more than two people have those recordings, releasing them anonymously PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #69
who really cares about this NOW? beachbum bob Dec 2016 #40
Accuracy of the historical record is always relevant. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #49
And this could impact his ability to seat racist sexist cabinet members bettyellen Dec 2016 #79
Thanks, Arnold. Get a time machine, and mail this info back to 6 weeks ago, Mc Mike Dec 2016 #50
Cause for a big national shrug. HassleCat Dec 2016 #54
Of course he doesn't think much of his wife now ... LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #56
Epic rant. blue neen Dec 2016 #70
Do you think the Russians hacked the pre-election polling? Or the national exit polls? StevieM Dec 2016 #71
i think it would have made his supporters even more supportive JI7 Dec 2016 #58
Those words are all in The Deplorables' Dictionary already. Megahurtz Dec 2016 #59
Put up or shut up, Tom. n/t GoCubsGo Dec 2016 #61
Sadly, his followers will love anything he says that is nasty! Rex Dec 2016 #62
No way to know, but if graphic, could have swayed w/ right timing - last weekend of election MrPurple Dec 2016 #68
And NOW he busts this out...? Ken Burch Dec 2016 #72
Gee, thanks for the Cover Up zentrum Dec 2016 #73
Is he saving this for 2020? HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #75
Thanks for being a patriot MFM008 Dec 2016 #76
will Republicans keep THEIR pussy grabber in headline news forever? Sunlei Dec 2016 #82
Talk is cheap. Seedersandleechers Dec 2016 #83
Tom Arnold Sat on Vulgar Trump Tapes, Now Says 'It's On!' JonLP24 Dec 2016 #88

forgotmylogin

(7,520 posts)
17. Last line is a little confusing
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 01:49 PM
Dec 2016

He refused in order to protect the show staffers...

Thanks a lot Tom Arnold, for sitting on this and then releasing them when it doesn't matter to get your fat face 15 more minutes of fame.

forgotmylogin

(7,520 posts)
43. Right, he didn't release them
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:52 PM
Dec 2016

If he wanted to protect people, why bring it up on the eve of the electoral vote when it doesn't make any difference except getting him in the spotlight?

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
45. I agree. If he's not going to release them, he shouldn't have mentioned this at all, and if he was
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 04:05 PM
Dec 2016

going to release them, he should have done it months ago.

forgotmylogin

(7,520 posts)
41. I misread the last line - it's ambiguously phrased
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:45 PM
Dec 2016

"but he refused to protect the show’s employees" can be read

A: Tom Arnold refused to protect the show's employees

B: Tom Arnold refused to [release aforementioned information in order to] protect the show's employees.

ProfessorGAC

(64,851 posts)
89. How Are They Protected Now, Hugh?
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:43 PM
Dec 2016

That reason seems weak, because if it's now public knowledge they exist, aren't they liable for the same reprisals than if they were actually released?

That excuse is not making sense.

"I have tapes in my possession that were made by people working on the show. So they exist because i have them, but if i release them people will get in trouble." Huh? Because by releasing them everyone would know they exist? They already know that.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
91. I agree the excuse doesn't make any sense, but without the comma, the sentence doesn't make sense.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:58 PM
Dec 2016

nt

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. If released 11/6 it might have helped HRC, or drawn more racists out of hiding for Trump.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 12:29 PM
Dec 2016

I do wish it had been released, but no use lamenting what didn't happen at this point.

brush

(53,740 posts)
81. Tom Arnold's claim to fame was what, he married Roseanne?
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 03:27 PM
Dec 2016

What an a-hole to come out after the EC vote saying he had this video.

He's been sitting on this since the 'Access Hollywood' audio broke as if he couldn't figure out how to get this released anonymously.

He's as useless as this info is now.

Brother Buzz

(36,373 posts)
13. Eric, the dimwit, was on often
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 01:04 PM
Dec 2016

And he always struggled delivering his simple 'non scripted' phony lines. It was then that I determined Eric was a mentally challenged doofus.

underpants

(182,603 posts)
78. We stopped watching when Donnie Jr. showed up
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 03:09 PM
Dec 2016

The show had run its course to us. Ivanka had started popping up which was strange to start. My wife and I both wondered why she was on that side of the table. Most of the contestants had education to match hers and actual experience not just working for Daddy. Jr. took the cake though. He had absolutely nothing to contribute. He just sat there and said "I agree with what (boss) my father said". Trump would nod approval.

I think Jr.'s stated accomplishments were going to Wharton (legacy) and working for his father. He tries as a tweaked lunkhead.

Sanity Claws

(21,840 posts)
10. That is what I thought too
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 12:45 PM
Dec 2016

It would also provide a great explanation why his wife and Barron won't be living with him.

JenniferJuniper

(4,507 posts)
27. If he is on the spectrum, of course
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:52 PM
Dec 2016

his father would call him a "retard". I'd expect nothing less of Trump.

C Moon

(12,208 posts)
25. Some people are saying his youngest son looks to be autistic. I'm guessing that's the reference.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:44 PM
Dec 2016

If it's true that Trump said that about his son, that finalizes it: he is the most horrible person in the U.S.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
51. I saw a few seconds of video of Barron
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 05:22 PM
Dec 2016

this morning from the campaign trail. He was doing a "stimming" behavior with his left hand. If he isn't on the spectrum, I suspect he has some kind of neurological disorder. Maybe a Tourettes thing? Given trumputin's age, it doesn't surprise that his youngest has a congenital condition.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
80. I can see it for his older adult sons
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 03:16 PM
Dec 2016

if they did something he thought was stupid - kind of Archie Bunker like. Insensitive but not terribly damaging.

To say it about a child, any child, of Barron's age is monstrous. A normal human being looks to protect children.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
7. Now He Tells Us
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 12:40 PM
Dec 2016

I have been saying "now they tell us" a great deal since the election. It seems all the stories that needed to come out before the election are coming out now. Days after the election people started running stories about NAFTA and how the coal industry is unlikely to come back due to cheaper energy sources. Now Tom Arnold claims he has recordings of Donald Trump using racial slurs and insulting his children. Why did they not tell us this before the election?

keithbvadu2

(36,653 posts)
8. Wonder what he said about his porn model wife? Or his 'piece of ass' daughter?
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 12:41 PM
Dec 2016

Wonder what he said about his porn model wife? Or his 'piece of ass' daughter?

Sanity Claws

(21,840 posts)
12. My guess is he speaks very disrespectfully to his wife and about his wife
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 12:48 PM
Dec 2016

I couldn't believe it when the ex-wife said that she should be the First Lady. She said something like Melania is not smart enough for the role.
Trump and his first wife were made for each other.

keithbvadu2

(36,653 posts)
42. Melania was smart enough to plagiarize a smart woman, Michelle.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:45 PM
Dec 2016

Melania was smart enough to plagiarize a smart woman, Michelle.

Melania was not smart enough to change the wording more.

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
52. Was his wife actually in porn, or did she basically just pose nude in suggestive poes?
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 05:33 PM
Dec 2016

My thought was the latter.

keithbvadu2

(36,653 posts)
55. Depends on your viewpoint.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 05:58 PM
Dec 2016

Depends on your viewpoint.

Maybe we could ask Jerry Falwell Jr. or Trumps evangelical supporters.

Didn't seem to hinder them any.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
11. This is a very sick country and we do not know if this may have energized more to vote Trump. That
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 12:48 PM
Dec 2016

he was true to them. Anyone voting for Trump already knew about his his racist , sexist side and his mocking disabled people. Didnt seem to be an issue with them

Aristus

(66,285 posts)
15. And this helps us how?
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 01:17 PM
Dec 2016

The stormtrumpers will just love His Tangerine Majesty all the more for it...

lark

(23,061 posts)
22. Fuck Tom Arnold
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:40 PM
Dec 2016

and everyone else who suppressed information showing what a racist nutjob Drumpf is. They all need to rot in hell for what they've done to this country and to the entire world. Tom may not be sweating losing his Medicare and SS, but I certainly am and so is everyone else who is on these now or will be soon. Yeah, they say we (people who are older than 57) will be protected and get ours like regular, but you know that's just a lie to ease the transition for repugs. Once they get the 2nd term, it will be all out war on everyone who's collecting now, all the protections will be removed and Medicare will be nothing more than a junk voucher that pays for nothing. Social Security will be privatized so when the oligarchs tank the economy and steal all the money, the elderly will be permanently broke. couple that with making Medicaid a state block program, where states can do what they want with the $ and if they end Medicaid for nursing home care, the elderly will truly be dying in the streets. I hate everyone who had any information that could have been used to highlight the true depravity of the orange assface and refused to release it. Because of them, our country as we know it has been turned upside down and the 4th reich has been enabled.

Afromania

(2,768 posts)
36. this
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:24 PM
Dec 2016

all of this, forever. It's too damn late now. Arnold may as well shut his damn mouth because it does nobody any good at this point. How many other people knew it was out there and sat on their hands.

MrPurple

(985 posts)
66. AGREED 100%
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 12:14 AM
Dec 2016

When faced with the chance to save the world from a megalomaniac, he passed because he was worried that a few people who edited the tape at NBC might get in trouble? Saving the planet vs. 3 people, who if they were competent editors, would still get work and be heroes to most in Hollywood.

You had a chance to alter history and avoid catastrophe and you passed. Could have set up a fund for the few people who edited the tapes to pay their legal fees, would have gotten huge donations.

Nwgirl503

(406 posts)
23. Please...him using the N or C word would just energize half his base
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:41 PM
Dec 2016

The other half would be like....still better than those emails. SMH.

greatbaldeagle

(157 posts)
26. It was funny? Really Tom?
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:45 PM
Dec 2016
“When the people sent it to me, it was funny,” Arnold said. “Hundreds of people have seen these. It was sort of a Christmas video they put together. He wasn’t going to be president of the United States. It was him sitting in that chair saying the N-word, saying the C-word, calling his son a retard, just being so mean to his own children. ‘Oh, this is so funny, this is this guy.'”

Is anyone else bothered by this paragraph? So his reaction to the disgusting, racist, misogynistic language he heard was laughter instead of outrage? That says a lot about him. I'm sure a lot of people who should have spoken up but chose to remain silent or laugh at him aren't laughing now.

forgotmylogin

(7,520 posts)
44. I can *kinda* understand dismissing some stuff when it's not about the leader of the Free World...
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:55 PM
Dec 2016

There's a big difference if the guy spouting misogyny and hate speech is a reality TV show personality or a potential person who can make laws that affect you and everyone around you. I'd say that might also apply to some of the women who were the victims of his advances...they could basically go "Well, at least I'll never have dealings with him again..."

ProfessorGAC

(64,851 posts)
90. I Can See It GBE
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:51 PM
Dec 2016

I can see watching it laughing at Trump for being such a buffoon. I don't know if that's what Arnold meant, but i'm pretty sure i would find it amusing that this silverspoon twit thinks it's ok to talk like that.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,137 posts)
31. In October, everyone though Clinton had it in the bag
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:08 PM
Dec 2016

Even on Novemer 7th, almost all the polls thought there was no chance Trump would win. Only Nate Silver gave Trump a 1 out of 3 chance. So Tom decided to protect the Apprentice staffers. If pussy grabbing and walking in on undressed teenagers didn't cost him the election, this wouldn't have either.

Vinca

(50,236 posts)
34. You're probably right, although calling his own son a "retard" might have had an impact.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:16 PM
Dec 2016

I really feel sorry for that kid.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,137 posts)
38. It kind of depends on which son it is
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:26 PM
Dec 2016

If it's one of the adults, I don't think anyone would give a shit. Plenty of people think calling someone a "retard" is the same as calling them stupid. If he was talking about Barron it might have mattered, but probably not enough to swing the election. I can just hear his minions saying "Well maybe he IS a retard".

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,153 posts)
30. To think, Tom Arnold could have saved this country so much grief.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:04 PM
Dec 2016

We could have been forever indebted to the great American hero that would have been....Tom Arnold, if only he had the guts to do what he should have done.

Statues could have been made honoring......Tom Arnold.

Tom Arnold, you blew it. And now you're just Stupid.

enid602

(8,594 posts)
32. tapes
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:15 PM
Dec 2016

You best believe that Ryan, McConnell and Price alll have copies of these tapes, and will happily share them with the public if tRump gives them any trouble with their plans to gut SS and Medicare this Spring.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
35. Listen to the recording. At about 13:40 in, he says, "Yeah, the tape IS coming out".
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:20 PM
Dec 2016

He says that Mark Cuban has offered to employee these guys for life and that a writer for Vanity Fair will go to jail to protect their anonymity. Wonder who the writer is that's preparing the story right NOW?
Man, the RePub congress-critters are going to be running and PUKING when they get asked about their President Cheeto's behavior. He called his son a "retard" in front of 30 people?? fuck...that's the worst one of all, imo.


PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
37. If these recordings have been circulated within the entertainment industry,
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:25 PM
Dec 2016

why has no one released them before these, or at least mentioned them?

Why am I skeptical of this claim?

JenniferJuniper

(4,507 posts)
48. They have been mentioned in the past,
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 05:08 PM
Dec 2016

but yeah, it's very odd they weren't released before the election if they exist

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
63. But if they'd been widely circulated, it shouldn't be that difficult
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 08:37 PM
Dec 2016

to release them to multiple outlets anonymously.

.99center

(1,237 posts)
65. "Arnold said those recordings have circulated within the entertainment industry."
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 10:01 PM
Dec 2016

Arnold's not claiming they were widely circulated. It took 11 years before someone in the industry leaked the Access Hollywood tape. Cosby drugged and assaulted women in the entertainment industry, at times in NBC studios, for nearly 50 years before the public found out. I don't know the answer to why this type of behavior gets over looked and/or buried by NBC and others in the biz, I'm sure it has something to do with protecting the billions they make off Trump and other entertainers.

"Arnold said. “I said, ‘Well, now these people – two editors and an associate producer — are scared to death. They’re scared of his people, they’re scared of they’ll never work again, there’s a $5 million confidentiality agreement.’”

It's not that difficult but the risk of pissing off G.E. and the incoming president, would make anyone hesitate.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
49. Accuracy of the historical record is always relevant.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 05:11 PM
Dec 2016

Accuracy of the historical record is always relevant, regardless of whether it may or may not allow you yourself an advantage.

Mc Mike

(9,111 posts)
50. Thanks, Arnold. Get a time machine, and mail this info back to 6 weeks ago,
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 05:18 PM
Dec 2016

when it will be useful, or will have been useful, or is gonna used to be useful, whatev.

LenaBaby61

(6,972 posts)
56. Of course he doesn't think much of his wife now ...
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 06:27 PM
Dec 2016

That she's nearing 50. In his tiny mind it may be time to replace her with a new and younger Melania bot 5000. As for him using the N-word, or calling women c***s, or calling his son a retard. yep that's HIM. He's a rotten, racist, filthy, low-life scum ball.

Having internalized things since Nov. 8ths apocalypse, I don't think that even if Arnold had released this information to the public it would have mattered. Comey was going to release HIS pseudo-bombshell which didn't kill Hillary IMHO, it hurt her more so due to timing. The corporate press would have still been yelling "Emails/CGI, EMAILS EMAILS, EMAILS." The pseudo email bombshell also hurt her with some Dems, and their rationale for not voting for her and for voting 3rd party or not voting period was: She's too crooked/contemptible to vote for. I guess tRump was a saint or something And beyond those things, tRump had the handy work of the GOP in purging voter rolls, depressing/suppressing/cross-checking Dems votes in many a red and a few purple states. You had that other rapist Assange, and FakiLeaks releasing that pseudo evidence (More than likely from russia) against Podesta/Dems, you had racism, sexism, 2nd amendment lovers coming out to vote bigly for a fellow racist, gun-loving pig. Then if those things weren't enough, you had tRump cooking something up with his boy toy putin tang who we know now was instructing his 400 lb cyber-hackers to cyber-hack this election in whatever way that would help his puppet tRumputin.

Hillary was the victim of a "perfect storm" scenario in that everything that could go wrong DID go wrong for her. The scary thing is that she still only lost the big 3: MI, PA and WI by some 58,000 votes, even though many hundreds of thousands of votes were thrown out in MI and something untowardly also happened in WI. Hell, who in hell knows WHAT happened down in FL., a state she was leading that hog tRump in until the very END. Hell, she was leading that hog in MI, WI. and PA. up until the very END. I'm of the mind that something of a cyber-nature was going on against Hillary before the Comey fake email bombshell, because although Hillary had a decent lead late, her numbers were starting to go down before Comey and after a great 3rd debate performance, plus there was NOTHING happening of a negative nature in/around her camp. Yes, thuglicans were coalescing around and going home to their filthy, racist, sexist, p***y-grabbing HOG tRump, but something about her lead in the polling a bit before Comey seems as if it was "off," as so many pollsters got it wrong (Yeah, right) which is why I feel comfortable in saying that maybe the cyber-hacking and meddling was beginning well BEFORE Comey. tRump told his buddies to go "find" those emails of hers. Then he said that the election was rigged against him. Oh, the election was rigged alright. It was rigged for HIM.

Projection MUCH tRump you HOG?

YES.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
71. Do you think the Russians hacked the pre-election polling? Or the national exit polls?
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:25 AM
Dec 2016

I am curious as to how far you believe it may have gone.

I personally believe that the Comey letter was the ultimate October surprise.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
58. i think it would have made his supporters even more supportive
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 07:25 PM
Dec 2016

And if the media reported it they would also have reported on emails equal or longer length of time.

Megahurtz

(7,046 posts)
59. Those words are all in The Deplorables' Dictionary already.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 08:28 PM
Dec 2016

They simply would not care. Narcissistic Sociopathy is now the New Black.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
73. Gee, thanks for the Cover Up
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:58 PM
Dec 2016

......Tom and your "hundreds" of friends in the "entertainment industry" who've seen or heard them.

And what the hell is so "funny" about racial and sexual slurs? What is wrong with you that you kept such things under wraps?

The reasons we lost this election are complex, but this "compilation" sure would have helped us with turn out. Might have made the difference that made the difference.

I'm really disgusted.

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
76. Thanks for being a patriot
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 02:59 PM
Dec 2016

Arnold.
If the founding fathers thought like you we would all be speaking English....

Wait....

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
88. Tom Arnold Sat on Vulgar Trump Tapes, Now Says 'It's On!'
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 12:44 PM
Dec 2016

Changes tune after defamation threat; says Trump uses racial slurs, insults own son in 'Apprentice' outtakes

(NEWSER) – Tom Arnold says he sat on video that makes Donald Trump's infamous Access Hollywood recording seem like small potatoes—but the comedian may now be changing his tune on refusing to release them. "Wife told me there's house line VM from Trump Camp about defamation suit so it's on! Open Apprentice vaults 4 discovery! Miss Universe too!!" he tweeted late Tuesday. What Arnold says he's got, per an interview Friday with KIRO radio: "I have the outtakes to The Apprentice where he says every bad thing ever, every offensive, racist thing ever. It was him sitting in that chair saying the N-word, saying the C-word, calling his son a retard, just being so mean to his own children." Arnold said he was sent the video by someone connected to the reality show before last month's election.

"Hundreds of people have seen these. It was sort of a Christmas video they put together," said Arnold, who claimed Arnold Schwarzenegger's agent urged him to help Hillary Clinton by releasing the video, People reports. "They said, 'I need you to release him saying the N-word,'" says Arnold. He said he couldn't because the editors and producers involved had signed "a $5 million confidentiality agreement" and were "scared to death" of never working again if the Apprentice tape got out. When rumors of the outtakes surfaced before the election, executive producer Mark Burnett said he was legally barred from releasing them. The Guardian reports that representatives for both Arnold and Trump have so far declined to comment on Arnold's claims. In a series of earlier tweets Tuesday defending his decision not to share the video, Arnold spoke of death threats and said the release of the tapes would have resulted in Ted Cruz becoming president.

http://m.newser.com/story/235779/tom-arnold-video-shows-trump-saying-every-bad-thing.html

Ted Cruz???

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