REVEALED: How Hollywood moguls sat on shocking 'Apprentice' tapes and helped Trump get elected
Source: RawStory
BRAD REED
20 DEC 2016 AT 11:12 ET
How did Donald Trump win this years presidential election? Theres not one reason or cause, but it seems that some Hollywood executives might be feeling some pangs of regret right now.
[link:http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/12/donald-trump-apprentice-outtakesA new report from] Vanity Fair reveals that the Clinton campaigns efforts to get people in Hollywood to hand over [link:http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/penn-jillette-the-way-trump-talked-about-african-americans-on-celebrity-apprentice-was-distasteful/damning outtakes] of Donald Trump filmed during his time as the host of The Apprentice were never successful because nobody thought Trump would actually win the election.
Two days before the election, one entertainment executive with ties to Clinton contacted someone in the industry who had said he had a copy of a tape depicting Trump that could create problems for the then candidate, the publication writes. Would this person be willing to pass him the footage to give to the Clinton campaign? Since the latest poll numbers indicated it was clear Clinton would win the election this person didnt want to risk it.
This wasnt the only incident where people in Hollywood who had dirt on Trump got cold feet when asked to produce, either.
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oberliner
(58,724 posts)Sad state of affairs.
DavidDvorkin
(19,473 posts)Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Enough voters in battleground states chose celebrity over policy. Disgusting state of affairs.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)hughee99
(16,113 posts)would have done much anyway. I think the sort of person who would have been influenced by this had already made up their mind that either they wouldn't vote for trump anyway, or didn't care and would vote for him anyway.
To his addled misguided voters he could do no wrong. Then add the help of the russkies and the FBI.
.99center
(1,237 posts)Then the polls came out.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)by this sort of thing had already made up their minds. The ones that weren't influenced by that probably wouldn't have been influenced by Arnold's tape either.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)I don't know if Trump was referring to his youngest. If he was? Sorry, there's a lot of Republicans with autistic kids.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)But the access Hollywood story didn't sway them on that.
brush
(53,764 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,631 posts)at least he's on video, for documentation purposes. But a little gaslighting will take care of that pesky perception problem in no time, sadly.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)a lot of ethical baggage. Actual policy chops, experience, etc are really secondary in importance.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)We're fucking doomed.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Not the Kerry/Gore/Hillary/Dukakis/Mondale model.
Simple test:
Does the candidate remind you more of Bill/Barack or Al/John/Hillary?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Or can you identify one who reminds you of Bill/Barack?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Seems like maybe someone from a different part of the country might be a good idea.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Lithos
(26,403 posts)Someone who can think quickly on her feet and adapt her style of communication in an honest way - then look towards someone who reminds you of Samantha Bee, or Tina Fey. Obviously I picked two comedians, but they have the type of engagement which would appeal well, I think.
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LiberalFighter
(50,856 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,856 posts)It worked in the 90's but imo wouldn't work now.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Bill adapted to the politics of the 1990's. Hillary failed to adapt to the 2000's in 2008 and to the 2010's in 2016.
Would a Bill Clinton in his prime, today, run like he did in 1992? No.
Would a candidate with his history of iffy behavior towards women be electable? Probably not--as I said, look at the talent, not the whole biography.
rwsanders
(2,596 posts)Like Ted Danson
I'm sure there are others, but now celebrity always beats knowledge and image always beats substance
muriel_volestrangler
(101,295 posts)He'd fit everything. He comes across as a liberal.
Oh - he's agnostic. He'd get elected anywhere else in the developed world, but in the USA ...
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)I think we're looking at Gillibrand or Booker.
Kamala Harris is a possibility down the road, but she barely won in 2010 in Cali, a one-party state, and thus remains an unknown quantity in terms of running a tough race against a Republican in a more diverse electorate.
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)A candidate that has good bumper sticker messages and who we all would like to have a beer with?
I remember the days of screaming at TV pundits who declared Bush victor over Gore because he was more "likeable." But that is what Americans want it seems.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)That's what it takes on the Democratic side.
Nominate someone as much like Obama and Bill Clinton as possible. Screw qualifications.
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)I'm curious who in the party is a possibility?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)forthemiddle
(1,379 posts)It has been proven over and over again that the candidate you would rather have a beer with is the candidate that wins.
Personally, I didn't want to have a beer with either Clinton, or Trump, but for some unknown reason, Trump was more personable to the electorate.
Even among die hard libs, I heard many people say that they didn't think they wanted to listen to Clintons voice on their TV for the next 4-8 years. I don't know how many people actually voted on that factor, but in the past it has been shown that the bad candidate (regardless of policy appeal) losses, and the one that people can stand to listen too for the next 4 years wins.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)with people in the economically and socially decaying communities in the rust belt.
McKim
(2,412 posts)I wish that our candidates would past muster on dressing properly and appropriately to reach the public. I would have liked to have seen HRC in sober business suits. The fancy suits in bright colors and big jewelry were a bit over the top. Also a voice coach could have been called in to help with presentation. Unfortunately we live in an age of image image image. If you will notice that the Republican Party chooses attractive candidates who speak smoothly. It does not matter what they say, but how great they seem to sound. Sad but true.
brush
(53,764 posts)MFM008
(19,804 posts).....
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)As a 70 something I think that if we don't get some young candidates we are all over, finished.
Young people have great ideas. Young people have a real stake in the future. They have a broader grasp of technology, and they have the most to gain from getting Dems into office. We need to nurture young leaders and pay for their education in the schools of government, like the Kennedy School of Govt. The Republicans have a whole generation of younger leaders. Look at the charisma of Justin Trudeau, he really draws people to follow him. Where is ours? Are they angry and sick of living in mom's basement? Are they giving up on America? Find them and nurture them!
Nash Teeth
(57 posts)I don't think the tape would have made a dent in his followers' opinion of him.
LiberalFighter
(50,856 posts)Why the hell does anyone really want to see minor celebrities on the shows he produces?
I checked to see what he produces and there is nothing that is grade A quality.
Survivor?
Shark Tank?
The Voice?
The Apprentice?
Sarah Palin's Alaska?
There is nothing really worth watching.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,165 posts)How someone who calls himself a Christian could work with Trump is beyond me.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)I would, if I could, tell them a thing or two.
nbsmom
(591 posts)Legit billionaire v. Wannabe