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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 12:38 PM Dec 2016

REVEALED: How Hollywood moguls sat on shocking 'Apprentice' tapes and helped Trump get elected

Source: RawStory

BRAD REED
20 DEC 2016 AT 11:12 ET

How did Donald Trump win this years presidential election? Theres not one reason or cause, but it seems that some Hollywood executives might be feeling some pangs of regret right now.

[link:http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/12/donald-trump-apprentice-outtakesA new report from] Vanity Fair reveals that the Clinton campaigns efforts to get people in Hollywood to hand over [link:http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/penn-jillette-the-way-trump-talked-about-african-americans-on-celebrity-apprentice-was-distasteful/damning outtakes] of Donald Trump filmed during his time as the host of The Apprentice were never successful because nobody thought Trump would actually win the election.

Two days before the election, one entertainment executive with ties to Clinton contacted someone in the industry who had said he had a copy of a tape depicting Trump that could create problems for the then candidate, the publication writes. Would this person be willing to pass him the footage to give to the Clinton campaign? Since the latest poll numbers indicated it was clear Clinton would win the election this person didnt want to risk it.

This wasnt the only incident where people in Hollywood who had dirt on Trump got cold feet when asked to produce, either.

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Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/revealed-how-hollywood-moguls-sat-on-shocking-apprentice-tapes-and-helped-trump-get-elected/

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REVEALED: How Hollywood moguls sat on shocking 'Apprentice' tapes and helped Trump get elected (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2016 OP
We shouldn't need "shocking Apprentice tapes" to defeat Trump oberliner Dec 2016 #1
True. DavidDvorkin Dec 2016 #2
Exactly Devil Child Dec 2016 #6
Helped Reagan, helped Arnold, hollowdweller Dec 2016 #33
Given the info that was already out there about trump already, I'm not sure these tapes hughee99 Dec 2016 #10
Agree MFM008 Dec 2016 #26
There was uncertainty about the Hollywood tape having an impact. .99center Dec 2016 #35
And once the Access Hollywood tape came out, I think most of the voters who would be influenced hughee99 Dec 2016 #36
If he called his youngest son a 'retard'? That would be a deal breaker for some KittyWampus Dec 2016 #40
There's a lot of them with daughters too, hughee99 Dec 2016 #41
He shouldn't need traitor Comey either brush Dec 2016 #42
Exactly. Moral failing is older than TV. littlemissmartypants Dec 2016 #44
simple prescription for 2020: run a charismatic, talented, likeable candidate without geek tragedy Dec 2016 #3
Apparently, we need to pick some kind of reality star. Adrahil Dec 2016 #4
No, just candidates in the Obama/Bill Clinton model. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #5
So a woman is out of the question? oberliner Dec 2016 #11
Gillibrand is a possibliity this cycle, maybe Harris in 4-8 years. nt geek tragedy Dec 2016 #14
You think another Senator from New York is the way to go? oberliner Dec 2016 #17
The right Senator from New York, sure. nt geek tragedy Dec 2016 #18
If you want style Lithos Dec 2016 #28
Personally, I would not want another Bill Clinton. LiberalFighter Dec 2016 #15
not talking about cloning him, talking about their talent as a candidate. nt geek tragedy Dec 2016 #19
He isn't imo that great with talent. LiberalFighter Dec 2016 #22
talented politicians adapt to their circumstances geek tragedy Dec 2016 #23
Actually, I think a committed, popular celebrity who can be bolstered with some sharp staffers... rwsanders Dec 2016 #25
Neil deGrasse Tyson? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2016 #7
Sad but true. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #12
So basically Devil Child Dec 2016 #8
Charisma, talent, an ability to connect with voters. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #13
I don't disagree Devil Child Dec 2016 #16
Cory Booker, Kirsten Gillibrand are the two that immediately jump to mind. nt geek tragedy Dec 2016 #20
Right or wrong forthemiddle Dec 2016 #24
Trump is an entertainer and he also spoke in a way that resonated geek tragedy Dec 2016 #29
Image and Presentatiion Do Count McKim Dec 2016 #37
Wrong! How the hell is someone who lost by 2.8 million votes more personable? brush Dec 2016 #43
And under the age of 70. MFM008 Dec 2016 #27
yep, the gerontocracy needs to be overthrown nt geek tragedy Dec 2016 #30
Oh Yes! McKim Dec 2016 #38
Elected even after seen on TV mocking a disabled reporter Nash Teeth Dec 2016 #9
Screw Mark Burnett and anything he does. LiberalFighter Dec 2016 #21
But what about Touched by An Angel and The Bible TexasBushwhacker Dec 2016 #39
fucking cowards!!!!!!!!!!! heaven05 Dec 2016 #31
Mark Cuban nbsmom Dec 2016 #32
can we go ahead and hear and see them now anyway?? hollowdweller Dec 2016 #34
 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
6. Exactly
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:13 PM
Dec 2016

Enough voters in battleground states chose celebrity over policy. Disgusting state of affairs.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
10. Given the info that was already out there about trump already, I'm not sure these tapes
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:19 PM
Dec 2016

would have done much anyway. I think the sort of person who would have been influenced by this had already made up their mind that either they wouldn't vote for trump anyway, or didn't care and would vote for him anyway.

MFM008

(19,804 posts)
26. Agree
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 02:56 PM
Dec 2016

To his addled misguided voters he could do no wrong. Then add the help of the russkies and the FBI.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
36. And once the Access Hollywood tape came out, I think most of the voters who would be influenced
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 04:02 PM
Dec 2016

by this sort of thing had already made up their minds. The ones that weren't influenced by that probably wouldn't have been influenced by Arnold's tape either.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
40. If he called his youngest son a 'retard'? That would be a deal breaker for some
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 12:34 AM
Dec 2016

I don't know if Trump was referring to his youngest. If he was? Sorry, there's a lot of Republicans with autistic kids.

littlemissmartypants

(22,631 posts)
44. Exactly. Moral failing is older than TV.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:44 AM
Dec 2016

at least he's on video, for documentation purposes. But a little gaslighting will take care of that pesky perception problem in no time, sadly.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
3. simple prescription for 2020: run a charismatic, talented, likeable candidate without
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:05 PM
Dec 2016

a lot of ethical baggage. Actual policy chops, experience, etc are really secondary in importance.



 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. No, just candidates in the Obama/Bill Clinton model.
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:10 PM
Dec 2016

Not the Kerry/Gore/Hillary/Dukakis/Mondale model.

Simple test:

Does the candidate remind you more of Bill/Barack or Al/John/Hillary?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
17. You think another Senator from New York is the way to go?
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:30 PM
Dec 2016

Seems like maybe someone from a different part of the country might be a good idea.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
28. If you want style
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 02:57 PM
Dec 2016

Someone who can think quickly on her feet and adapt her style of communication in an honest way - then look towards someone who reminds you of Samantha Bee, or Tina Fey. Obviously I picked two comedians, but they have the type of engagement which would appeal well, I think.



L-

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
23. talented politicians adapt to their circumstances
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:41 PM
Dec 2016

Bill adapted to the politics of the 1990's. Hillary failed to adapt to the 2000's in 2008 and to the 2010's in 2016.

Would a Bill Clinton in his prime, today, run like he did in 1992? No.

Would a candidate with his history of iffy behavior towards women be electable? Probably not--as I said, look at the talent, not the whole biography.

rwsanders

(2,596 posts)
25. Actually, I think a committed, popular celebrity who can be bolstered with some sharp staffers...
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 02:41 PM
Dec 2016

Like Ted Danson
I'm sure there are others, but now celebrity always beats knowledge and image always beats substance

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
7. Neil deGrasse Tyson?
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:15 PM
Dec 2016

He'd fit everything. He comes across as a liberal.

Oh - he's agnostic. He'd get elected anywhere else in the developed world, but in the USA ...

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. Sad but true.
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:23 PM
Dec 2016

I think we're looking at Gillibrand or Booker.

Kamala Harris is a possibility down the road, but she barely won in 2010 in Cali, a one-party state, and thus remains an unknown quantity in terms of running a tough race against a Republican in a more diverse electorate.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
8. So basically
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:16 PM
Dec 2016

A candidate that has good bumper sticker messages and who we all would like to have a beer with?

I remember the days of screaming at TV pundits who declared Bush victor over Gore because he was more "likeable." But that is what Americans want it seems.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
13. Charisma, talent, an ability to connect with voters.
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:25 PM
Dec 2016

That's what it takes on the Democratic side.

Nominate someone as much like Obama and Bill Clinton as possible. Screw qualifications.

forthemiddle

(1,379 posts)
24. Right or wrong
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:44 PM
Dec 2016

It has been proven over and over again that the candidate you would rather have a beer with is the candidate that wins.

Personally, I didn't want to have a beer with either Clinton, or Trump, but for some unknown reason, Trump was more personable to the electorate.

Even among die hard libs, I heard many people say that they didn't think they wanted to listen to Clintons voice on their TV for the next 4-8 years. I don't know how many people actually voted on that factor, but in the past it has been shown that the bad candidate (regardless of policy appeal) losses, and the one that people can stand to listen too for the next 4 years wins.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
29. Trump is an entertainer and he also spoke in a way that resonated
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 03:24 PM
Dec 2016

with people in the economically and socially decaying communities in the rust belt.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
37. Image and Presentatiion Do Count
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 07:08 PM
Dec 2016

I wish that our candidates would past muster on dressing properly and appropriately to reach the public. I would have liked to have seen HRC in sober business suits. The fancy suits in bright colors and big jewelry were a bit over the top. Also a voice coach could have been called in to help with presentation. Unfortunately we live in an age of image image image. If you will notice that the Republican Party chooses attractive candidates who speak smoothly. It does not matter what they say, but how great they seem to sound. Sad but true.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
38. Oh Yes!
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 07:13 PM
Dec 2016

As a 70 something I think that if we don't get some young candidates we are all over, finished.
Young people have great ideas. Young people have a real stake in the future. They have a broader grasp of technology, and they have the most to gain from getting Dems into office. We need to nurture young leaders and pay for their education in the schools of government, like the Kennedy School of Govt. The Republicans have a whole generation of younger leaders. Look at the charisma of Justin Trudeau, he really draws people to follow him. Where is ours? Are they angry and sick of living in mom's basement? Are they giving up on America? Find them and nurture them!

Nash Teeth

(57 posts)
9. Elected even after seen on TV mocking a disabled reporter
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:17 PM
Dec 2016

I don't think the tape would have made a dent in his followers' opinion of him.

LiberalFighter

(50,856 posts)
21. Screw Mark Burnett and anything he does.
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:35 PM
Dec 2016

Why the hell does anyone really want to see minor celebrities on the shows he produces?

I checked to see what he produces and there is nothing that is grade A quality.

Survivor?
Shark Tank?
The Voice?
The Apprentice?
Sarah Palin's Alaska?

There is nothing really worth watching.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,165 posts)
39. But what about Touched by An Angel and The Bible
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 12:12 AM
Dec 2016

How someone who calls himself a Christian could work with Trump is beyond me.

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