Arrest in 'Vote Trump' burning of Mississippi black church

[hrmjustin]

Source: AP

By EMILY WAGSTER PETTUS
22 minutes ago
JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — Mississippi authorities arrested a man Wednesday in the burning of an African-American church that was also spray-painted with the words, "Vote Trump."

Andrew McClinton of Leland, Mississippi, was charged with first degree arson of a place of worship, said Warren Strain, spokesman for the Mississippi Department of Public Safety. McClinton is African-American.

McClinton was arrested in Greenville, where Hopewell Missionary Baptist Church was burned and vandalized Nov. 1, a week before the presidential election

Read more: https://apnews.com/4e14f73be8df4caf90643cd2d757054c/Arrest-in-'Vote-Trump'-burning-of-Mississippi-black-church

[sheshe2]

1. Good...

I hope he has a long stay in prison.



Thanks for the news Justin.

[iluvtennis]

2. Interesting, no picture of this creature...GAH nt

[FBaggins]

14. Photo of "creature"

Source - http://wreg.com/2016/12/21/mississippi-authorities-make-arrest-in-burning-of-african-american-church-spray-painted-with-vote-trump/

[Judi Lynn]

17. Did that give you tingles all over, beling able to expose the photo of a black suspect? n/t

[FBaggins]

18. ???

You continue to strike me as having an odd sense of reality that's blended far too much with active imagination (as with your continued defense of a bloody dictatorship in Venezuela).

A picture was requested and I found a picture.

[Judi Lynn]

23. No, there was no request.

The poster said this:

Interesting, no picture of this creature...GAH

What does this post have to do with Venezuela, could you tell me?

[yagotme]

21. If you read up page a little,

a pic was basically requested. I took it as that when I read it.

[MadDAsHell]

22. "Expose"? Uh, it's a mugshot; that's what they're for. nt

[LittleBlue]

24. Stop race baiting

[Judi Lynn]

26. Expain that, if you can.

[LittleBlue]

27. You stated he got tingles from posting the picture of a black man

There is no basis for believing this, though, except to cause strife.

[Judi Lynn]

28. And you accuse me of "race baiting," is that correct? n/t

[LittleBlue]

29. What would you call it?

You accused him of racism without a shred of evidence. Are baseless attacks against liberals how we do things around here?

[Judi Lynn]

30. Liberals are never hot to race off to show some black man is charged with a crime.

That is race baiting, not REFRAINING from gleefully pulling out photos of suspected minority criminals.

Absolutely transparent. Anyone sees right through it.

[Igel]

31. But they're hot when it's not a black man charged with a crime?

Look, on Nov. 2 when this was posted all over DU, DU was moderate. Other issues were at hand, but even then the assumption was it was KKK/Trump/white nationalists of some sort. The typical set of a-factual assumptions, because most church arson cases that are solved turn out to be either a member, an employee, or a close neighbor. That holds true for black-church arsons, where most cases solved have the perps be a member, an employee, or a close neighbor (meaning, in other words, black).

To get a clear picture of the actual facts, the actual data (instead of what stokes outrage and indignation) it's good to know that in this particular case, as in every other particular case that's solved, what the facts are.

The base assumption (and that word 'base' has two meanings here) was it was a white Trump supporter. That's background knowledge for future judgments. But in this case that assumption was false, and I, personally, like to know when my assumptions are wrong and are likely to lead to flawed judgments. A cognitively easy but usually flawed way of thinking assumes what you see is all there is--and if you select what you see or allow others to select what you see because, well, we don't point out the sins of our own congregation, you're feeding a bias. It's a cognitive bias, but all racial biases are subsets of cognitive biases.

[Judi Lynn]

32. What would justify using "Photo of "creature"" as the reply above the photo?

Is there no gleeful gloating in that?

[yagotme]

33. He was "quoting" prior poster asking about a photo. n/t

[NBachers]

3. Jesus here we are again. I thought this was f****** over.

[pangaia]

6. Seriously? It is never over. Ever..

[philosslayer]

8. Thought what was over?

A disgruntled member burned his own church down. I'm not sure what you mean.

[Quackers]

4. He was a member of the congregation too.

That's sad.

[Yo_Mama]

5. He was a member of the church!!!

McClinton was arrested in Greenville, where Hopewell Missionary Baptist Church was burned and vandalized Nov. 1, a week before the presidential election.

Hopewell Bishop Clarence Green said McClinton is a member of the church. Green said he didn't know about the arrest until he was called by The Associated Press.

The church members have to be relieved. That would be HELL.

And yes, he's black:
http://wreg.com/2016/12/21/mississippi-authorities-make-arrest-in-burning-of-african-american-church-spray-painted-with-vote-trump/

They say the motive wasn't political. For all we know, this man has a mental illness, or there is a church dispute, or something weirder.

[zippythepinhead]

7. news story reports burning not political

"vote trump" spray painted on church. Not political! Duh. WTF?

Am I still on planet earth or am I dreaming?

[Thor_MN]

10. If what heard on the radio is correct, the guy arrested is a member of the church...

Look for "false flag" from the deplorables, and claims that all hate is FAKE news.

[zippythepinhead]

12. Yes he was a member of the church

He was also a "black" as trump refers to african americans [the blacks, he leaves the words person, man, women, out, when addressing them].

Sort of like ross perot's "you people" statement.

The republicans will blame the democrats for it. Bet my ass on it.

[Initech]

9. The deplorables are loving this story. It's all over Twitter.

And yeah fuck that guy.

[Judi Lynn]

15. Finding a story like this makes life worth living for the racists. It's their deteriorated nature.

It can't be enjoyed alone, they have to yammer about it to human beings.

Racism requires exhibiting the hatred. Their tiny brains will explode if they can't relieve themselves by dumping it all out in front of living, sane people. It's a form of flashing.

[Initech]

16. It's pretty disgusting isn't it?

And the racist pieces of shit get to run the country the next 4 years, and they are going to destroy it.

[Judi Lynn]

25. Racists have NOTHING good they bring to life. They only make life harder for human beings. n/t

[alfredo]

11. One less Trump thug on the streets

[hughee99]

13. That's the spirit. No one has proven he's not a trump supporter yet. n/t

[mahatmakanejeeves]

19. Expect a presidential pardon on the afternoon of January 20, 2017.

Ouday and Qusay will be selling the raffle tickets to see it live.

[cigsandcoffee]

20. Their "gofundme" page raised more than $150k.

Makes me wonder if that's what this misguided individual had in his mind when burning the church.

[yagotme]

34. Perhaps,

not so "misguided". Lotta $ flowing in, it seems.

[Judi Lynn]

35. This congregation burned down its own church to get some fast money? You think so?

Even if you "thought" something like that, why on earth would you post it?

Not typical conversation among adults north of the Mason Dixon line.

[Separation]

36. What the hell does the Mason Dixon line have to do with anything?!

[yagotme]

37. Wasn't "this congregation".

One man, so far. Did he have guidance from "others"? Did he hear others in the congregation talk about wanting a new church, but don't have enough money? Don't know much for now, but speculation, and what he did coupled with the $ flowing in leads to questions about motive.

ETA: Like one of above posters commenting about another poster's "gleeful" post. Mirror, perhaps?