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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 06:01 PM Dec 2016

Bernie Sanders nails 'Tweeter in Chief' Trump for unleashing a 'dangerous nuclear arms race'

Source: RawStory

SARAH K. BURRIS
23 DEC 2016 AT 16:54 ET

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) didnt mince words on Friday afternoon when he responded to Donald Trumps recent tweets about nuclear weapons.

Congress must not allow the Tweeter in Chief to unleash a dangerous and costly nuclear arms race, Sanders nailed the president-elect.

Bernie Sanders ✔
@SenSanders

Congress must not allow the Tweeter in Chief to unleash a dangerous and costly nuclear arms race. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/811977223326625792

3:31 PM - 23 Dec 2016
3,109 Retweets 6,469 likes


We are spending hundreds of billions of dollars maintaining 5,000 nuclear weapons. I think we need major reform in the military making it more cost effective but also focusing on the real crisis that faces us, Sanders said in Iowa in November 2015.

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Bernie Sanders nails 'Tweeter in Chief' Trump for unleashing a 'dangerous nuclear arms race' (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2016 OP
I rather doubt that Donny Boy will be dissuaded. nt MADem Dec 2016 #1
Do you have any predications at all for the coming 6 months? KittyWampus Dec 2016 #15
Watching Trump caroom about is like watching a three year old playing with a loaded handgun. MADem Dec 2016 #26
You better believe I liked and retweeted that. geomon666 Dec 2016 #2
i like "Tweeter In Chief". n/t montana_hazeleyes Dec 2016 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #4
IBTL. TexasTowelie Dec 2016 #14
Welcome! redwitch Dec 2016 #19
It's not the content of the post, TexasTowelie Dec 2016 #21
yeah. mopinko Dec 2016 #22
There was a discussion about that gentleman. MADem Dec 2016 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #23
Sanders tweets 17 words; Senator Markey sends a detailed 3-page letter on the record frazzled Dec 2016 #5
So I take it you don't like Sanders? Ligyron Dec 2016 #6
I simply don't believe frazzled Dec 2016 #7
THANK YOU Skittles Dec 2016 #8
I appreciate your bringing up Senator Markey. pnwmom Dec 2016 #12
" all the reverential threads that appear forty times a day here" Plucketeer Dec 2016 #18
Sister Sarah put Twitter on the The Beltway's radar.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #24
Then do it! HassleCat Dec 2016 #30
Then start a thread. Nobody's stopping you Arazi Dec 2016 #34
Uh oh, it's intelligent and has footnotes. ananda Dec 2016 #10
"Why do I need footnotes? NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #29
+1 DawgHouse Dec 2016 #11
Thank you for this on Senator Markley, frazzled.. much more Cha Dec 2016 #13
SANDERS CALLS OUT NUCLEAR WEAPONS SPENDING AT #DEMDEBATE kristopher Dec 2016 #16
Sanders is STILL the only one pressing this issue Plucketeer Dec 2016 #20
That's just not true. MADem Dec 2016 #25
I think it's great that both of them are raising the issue. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #28
There's three whole paragraphs to that letter Plucketeer Dec 2016 #32
So we're supposed to "talk down to the moron?" MADem Dec 2016 #35
I did a couple of retweets. ananda Dec 2016 #9
But ... but ... but ... but ... bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #17
Yes, Bernie nails it, again! Hasn't lost his mojo. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #31
Feel the Bern, Cheeto Arazi Dec 2016 #33

MADem

(135,425 posts)
26. Watching Trump caroom about is like watching a three year old playing with a loaded handgun.
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 12:25 AM
Dec 2016

He could run around in circles and fall asleep in an exhausted heap, he could point the thing at us and kill us all, or he could drop it and shoot himself in the ass.

My only prediction is that we are living in very, very uncertain times--probably more dire than many of us realize, because we have no loyal opposition with any teeth at this juncture.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

TexasTowelie

(112,102 posts)
21. It's not the content of the post,
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 08:12 PM
Dec 2016

but the usename choice which is inappropriate. MIRT must be taking a break to allow that to slip by.

mopinko

(70,077 posts)
22. yeah.
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 08:28 PM
Dec 2016

wont be able to alert and get their attention on that, either.
i keep telling the guys we need a troll alert button. mirt does a great job, but all things considered, if it were me, i would stepping it up a notch.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. There was a discussion about that gentleman.
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 12:27 AM
Dec 2016

It sometimes takes a while. They won't kill us in our sleep if we don't clean up straight away...

Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #21)

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
5. Sanders tweets 17 words; Senator Markey sends a detailed 3-page letter on the record
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 06:37 PM
Dec 2016

complete with footnotes, setting forth the real reasons Trump must retract his statement and reverse policy.

One imitates the Tweeter in Chief; the other is a serious legislator and statesman, who has been working on nuclear disarmament issues for many decades. Who gets quoted here?

http://www.markey.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Trump%20nuclear%20weapons.pdf

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
7. I simply don't believe
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 07:05 PM
Dec 2016

he deserves all the reverential threads that appear forty times a day here, every time he tweets a few words on subjects that have already been covered more thoroughly and thoughtfully by others (and even, I dare say, by the media).

I don't like hero worship, and all these threads that deal with Sanders rather than the issues at hand appear to fit that description. So no, I don't think he's all that. I don't even think he's all that bright.

I would like to see some threads on, say, Senator Markey's articulate response to Trump, or some of the in-depth articles on the subject that have appeared over the past day or two.

I don't like Trump tweets, and I don't like tweeting as a serious means of communication from legislators. It's a cheap shortcut.

pnwmom

(108,975 posts)
12. I appreciate your bringing up Senator Markey.
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 07:21 PM
Dec 2016

Will you please consider making an OP about his response? Let me know if you do and I'll respond and rec it.

This IS too important to be covered in tweets.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
18. " all the reverential threads that appear forty times a day here"
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 07:53 PM
Dec 2016

Can you substantiate that "forty" for us? Sanders is still working for the populace of the U.S. - while still serving Vermont. I'd love to hear about DWS (or others) giving the incoming administration hell.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
24. Sister Sarah put Twitter on the The Beltway's radar....
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 10:54 PM
Dec 2016

It's how you get attention these days.

You expect the media to READ?

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
30. Then do it!
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 12:42 AM
Dec 2016

Gather the information you want us to see and put it up here. As long as you don't get snarky, it will be fine.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
34. Then start a thread. Nobody's stopping you
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 01:03 PM
Dec 2016

Fact is, Bernie's about the only one other than Elizabeth Warren who seems to be acting as a true opposition to the Cheeto-in-Chief

ananda

(28,856 posts)
10. Uh oh, it's intelligent and has footnotes.
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 07:16 PM
Dec 2016

Trump will not only not read it, he probably
couldn't get past the salutation.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
16. SANDERS CALLS OUT NUCLEAR WEAPONS SPENDING AT #DEMDEBATE
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 07:38 PM
Dec 2016
SANDERS CALLS OUT NUCLEAR WEAPONS SPENDING AT #DEMDEBATE

Derek Johnson | 15 November 2015

UPDATE: At a rally on Sunday evening, Senator Sanders committed to major reductions to both U.S. and Russia's nuclear arsenals and the eventual total elimination of nuclear weapons in response to a question from a Global Zero activist.

At last night’s presidential debate, a major contender for the democratic presidential nomination told 8.5 million viewers that the U.S. is wasting billions of dollars on thousands of nuclear weapons -- all while underfunding efforts to counter violent extremism.

Senator Bernie Sanders told them we need major reform in military spending to refocus our priorities and resources on things that address real national security challenges. He stated emphatically: “The Cold War is over.”


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http://www.globalzero.org/blog/sanders-calls-out-nuclear-weapons-spending-demdebate

Sanders Calls for Limiting Nuclear Proliferation
Thursday, October 8, 2009

WASHINGTON, October 8 - Senator Bernie Sanders made the following statement:

“I strongly agree with President Obama’s call for 'a world without nuclear weapons.' As has been made apparent by recent provocative actions by North Korea and Iran, the threat of nuclear weapons is a present threat to the security of America and the world. We must limit nuclear proliferation, now and in the future. We must end the production of weapons-grade uranium. And we must heed what President Obama has called our 'moral responsibility' to lead the way toward reducing, and eventually eliminating, nuclear weapons. The president has taken a leadership role in the international community’s efforts to close the door on the production and spread of nuclear weapons. I support him, and urge him to continue these efforts.”
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/statement-sanders-calls-for-limiting-nuclear-proliferation

Sanders: Nuclear Weapons Vs. Human Needs
Judy on May 27, 2015


Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders recently declared his candidacy for President. On May 27, I joined hundreds of people at the South Church in Portsmouth NH for a town hall meeting with the Senator. He answered a number of questions from the audience, and I was able to ask the last one, about whether he supported the $1 trillion dollar build-up of US nuclear forces. It's "all about our national priorities," he said.



Sanders: Nuclear Weapons Vs. Human Needs

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders recently declared his candidacy for President. On May 27, I joined hundreds of people at the South Church in Portsmouth NH for a town hall meeting with the Senator. He answered a number of questions from the audience, and I was able to ask the last one, about whether he supported the $1 trillion dollar build-up of US nuclear forces. Here’s the exchange.

Judy: “Senator Sanders, I’m Judy from Canterbury NH. The United States already has thousands of nuclear weapons in its active military stockpiles, many of them on hair-trigger alert. And yet there is a plan, which the Administration apparently buys into, for a massive rebuilding of our nuclear weapons and delivery vehicles. A new fleet of submarines, heavy bombers, cruise missiles. It’ll cost a trillion dollars. Big profits for the corporations, but what do you think of this plan?”

Bernie Sanders: “Well, I’ll tell you what I think of it. It takes us right back to Carol’s question [previous question about a disabled child]. How does it happen that we have a trillion dollars available to expand our nuclear arsenal, but we don’t have the money to take care of the children in this country? What that’s about … What all of this is about is our national priorities. Who are we as a people? Does Congress listen to the military-industrial complex who has never seen a war that they didn’t like? Or do we listen to the people of this country who are hurting? And that’s what, in a sense, this campaign is about.”

Evaluating this exchange, I was glad to have raised the issue of the nation’s outrageously dangerous, expensive nuclear weapons modernization plan. Too few people worry about nuclear weapons nowadays, although we are still in great danger of a nuclear holocaust. That the audience responded enthusiastically to my question was gratifying....

http://gui.afsc.org/birddog/sanders-nuclear-weapons-vs-human-needs
 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
20. Sanders is STILL the only one pressing this issue
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 08:10 PM
Dec 2016

The only one that gets any notice anyways. We should be dismantling and ridding ourselves of ALL nuclear weapons - ALL OF THEM! Think about it, if it ever comes to us using them, who'll just go on with their daily life as if there'd been just some little skirmish?

We get rid of all of that death dealing shit and we're gonna get whacked by the Russians? Are we REALLY dumb enough to think that a nuclear holocaust HERE wouldn't blow back on the whole planet????? Supposedly we have our best and brightest in charge of our arsenal. So what? It's STILL insanity to even have that shit around. That fireworks debacle in Mexico this week - imagine that - only on a global scale. Would that have happened if there hadn't been an errant spark? Probably not. But it did and it's happened two more times in recent years. The potential is there, and yet they'll no doubt go back to doing that market again.
The potential fore a nuclear donnybrook is upon us for the simple fact that the hardware exists. All it'll take is an errant spark.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
28. I think it's great that both of them are raising the issue.
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 12:30 AM
Dec 2016

Neither method of doing so is better than the other; what's important that attention is being paid to the potential disaster of Trump's tiny finger on The Button.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
32. There's three whole paragraphs to that letter
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 12:21 PM
Dec 2016

You honestly believe Trump could stay focused enough to read all that - and then comprehend it? The folks that supported this idiot have the same attention span - 140 characters. How's that old line go: Fight fire WITH fire? Markey's a great senator, but like all those who've failed against Trump, he assumes that we're still playing by the rules.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
35. So we're supposed to "talk down to the moron?"
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 06:30 PM
Dec 2016

Do you hear what you're saying?

He's going to have to deal with issues more complex than this-no time like the present to learn how.

Markey IS a great senator--no "buts" about it. He's also unassociated with Sandia Labs, which gives him very clean hands.

You don't get into twitter wars with an idiot. It doesn't pay off. You impeach them.

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