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Judi Lynn

(160,456 posts)
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 05:03 PM Dec 2016

A shot fired into Mexico killed a teenager, and now, the Supreme Court will weigh in

Source: Dallas Morning News

A shot fired into Mexico killed a teenager, and now, the Supreme Court will weigh in

Filed under Politics at 3 hrs ago


WASHINGTON — It sounds like the beginning of a riddle: An American border patrol agent, standing in America, shoots a Mexican teenager, standing in Mexico.

But that’s exactly what happened on the El Paso-Juárez border. Now, the U.S. Supreme Court will decide whether the teen’s grieving parents are allowed to sue the man responsible.

. . .

But Gupta, who will argue on behalf of the Hernández family to the Supreme Court, says constitutional protections don’t always end precisely at the physical border. He cites the court’s ruling in a 2008 case that extended certain constitutional protections to inmates at the U.S.-controlled detention camps in Guantanamo Bay, which is technically in Cuba.

“We lay out a multi-factor test, and the pitch we have in this case is quite modest,” Gupta said. “When we’re talking about an unarmed civilian, in an enclosed space where the U.S. patrols — under those specific circumstances — it is neither impractical or anomalous to extend constitutional protection.”

Read more: http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2016/12/27/shot-fired-mexico-killed-teenager-andnow-supreme-court-will-weigh

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A shot fired into Mexico killed a teenager, and now, the Supreme Court will weigh in (Original Post) Judi Lynn Dec 2016 OP
kick Angry Dragon Dec 2016 #1
Too many idiots in the good 'ol USA! USA! USA! vkkv Dec 2016 #2
Why not simply sue the guard inside Mexico since its where the kid was shot and died? cstanleytech Dec 2016 #3
Interesting question. Igel Dec 2016 #7
This is the ultimate end game of the Trump effect: war with Mexico. Initech Dec 2016 #4
For the sake and safety of border patrol agents on the US side Xipe Totec Dec 2016 #5
Yes, it would be. n/t yagotme Dec 2016 #6
Why not murder? DepBlueSky Dec 2016 #8
welcome to du and beats me.... dembotoz Dec 2016 #9

Igel

(35,282 posts)
7. Interesting question.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:14 PM
Dec 2016

The courts don't have jurisdiction over somebody in the US, he'd have to be tried in absentia or extradited. The suit would be subject to what nationalist or corrupt tendencies the courts in Mexico have--few want to argue that they're paragons of justice. (It's only bad to point this out when some ethnic or community line can be invoked to provide knee-jerk defense. Which gets us back to "nationalist.&quot

Big bad migra shoots honest local kid. Good luck with a jury on that one.

Then again it might be harder for the US resident to get access to Mexican witnesses if it's brought in the US; easier, if in a Mexican court. The Mexican side could recruit, and if there's evidence it wants ignored it can just ignore it.

Settlement would be in $. Not pesos.

News would be in American press, not (just) the Mexican press.

Xipe Totec

(43,888 posts)
5. For the sake and safety of border patrol agents on the US side
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 08:13 PM
Dec 2016

It may be wise to extend jurisdiction of the courts in both directions. Otherwise, anyone with a gun could shoot into the US with impunity following the argument that jurisdiction ends at the border.

That would be a very, very bad precedent.

 

DepBlueSky

(9 posts)
8. Why not murder?
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 12:16 AM
Dec 2016

He killed a child in a foreign country. How come Mexico doesn't charge his ass with murder?

dembotoz

(16,785 posts)
9. welcome to du and beats me....
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 12:49 PM
Dec 2016

but then again as we have seen with black lives matter...the odds of conviction of a law enforcement officer no matter crime seem minimal if carried out against a not white

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