Woman dies after being shot at South Carolina gun range

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Associated Press

Updated 3:22 pm, Thursday, December 29, 2016



ANDERSON, S.C. (AP) A woman who was shot in the eye at a South Carolina gun range earlier this week has died, authorities said.

Sarah Bonner, 24, of Lawrenceville, Georgia, died early Thursday after being on life support for several days, said Anderson County Coroner Greg Shore.

Bonner was shot Monday afternoon at Skip-J Range in Anderson while visiting friends and family for Christmas. Deputies said range members were target practicing at the time.

The bullet, removed during an autopsy Thursday, will help show which gun fired it, Shore said. Investigators are still trying to determine whether the shooting was an accident, said Anderson County Sheriff's Lt. Sheila Cole.



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[Renew Deal]

1. Guns only have one purpose and this is it

[camelfan]

4. Exactly!

To snuff out the life of that which it shoots. That's why I've never bought into the line "well, I would shoot to wound only."

[calimary]

15. Welcome to DU, camelfan.

That sure seems like it to me, too. For all those who like to deflect directly to - "well, CARS kill people TOO! Do we have to ban all cars then?" - I like to point out that cars are not designed primarily To Kill. Cars are designed primarily For Transport. Someone may be killed in, or by being hit by a car. But that's not the specific purpose for which cars are designed and produced. However, that IS the specific purpose for which guns are designed and produced. What? We have guns so we can chop our vegetables efficiently? To do our nails? To shampoo our hair? Guns are meant to be used to harvest crops? Read to the blind? Drive carpool? Wrap gifts? Bake the birthday cake?

NO. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and no. And no, some more. Guns are designed to kill. Secondarily to wound. But mainly to kill.

[Snackshack]

45. You are 100% correct.

Other false equivalencies include:

"Firearms don't kill people...people kill people"

By that logic the opium filled syringe on the coffee table does not kill people either.

"Criminals don't obey laws/regulations so there is no need to make more for guns."

I guess we should just get rid of all laws.

"There are so many guns in the US adding new laws/regulations would not make a difference."

Leaded gas was everywhere but when we found out just how hazardous it was we did a pretty good job of getting rid of it with new laws/regulations.

"2nd Amendment."

Always amused at how the 2nd amendment is so sacrosanct (but no so much for other amendments, take the 14th and citizenship as a birth right) and apparently as up to date as it need be even though technology has made it obsolete since the mid 1800's.

[3catwoman3]

51. Very well said, Calimary.

I will keep your words in mind when I next need to respond to someone who tries that tired cars and swimming pools rationalization.

Thank you.

[smirkymonkey]

61. This!

[BigDemVoter]

25. That is exactly right.

And that just makes me think of that asinine argument from the NRA. . . "Guns don't kill people; people kill people!"
Grrrrrrr. . . . Just makes me angry even thinking about it!

[scscholar]

57. And gun ranges only have one purpose

I don't understand why those places are still legal in some places.

[benEzra]

58. Is that sarcasm/Poe, or are you serious?

Because gun ranges are not only legal everywhere in the United States, but also legal in Canada, Australia, the United Kingdom, and every nation in Europe.

I suppose "the entire planet except for Japan and a couple other nations" counts as "some places", making that statement technically true, but it doesn't capture the scope of it.

[scscholar]

60. They are not legal where I live!

I don't understand why your kind claims they're legal; where other normal people live. They are not. They are not Don't be that way. Be that way.

[oneshooter]

63. Where is it that you live, where they are illegal? n/t

[benEzra]

70. Are you in the Seattle area? If so, ranges are legal and commonplace there.

https://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=gun+shooting+range&find_loc=Seattle%2C+WA

Washington is a very pro-gun state, with a strong culture of responsible gun ownership. But shooting ranges are legal even in San Francisco and New York City, as well as the UK, Australia, and other places with extreme gun restrictions. And of course shooting ranges, and shooting competitions, are popular all over continental Europe as well.

[Aristus]

2. Wow. That's two today.

"Law-abiding gun-owners" - 2; rationality 0.

[spike jones]

5. That is an average day.

From 2005-2010, almost 3,800 people in the U.S. died from unintentional shootings.

[Aristus]

6. I meant the context in which they were killed.

One guy is a noted pro-gun-rights polemicist. The other was on a gun range - presumably not a gun-control advocate.

[elmac]

3. Very sad story

R.I.P.

[Feeling the Bern]

7. Maybe if these gun humpers keep shooting each other, the intelligence level of the American gene

pool will rise to a high enough level that sensible gun control laws can take effect.

What am I saying? Most American brains barely generate enough juice to keep the legs moving and the lungs working.

[OregonBlue]

8. That's exactly what I think. So many southern and midwest bigots and haters who carry guns. Some

state's are now allowing them to carry into bars. Should hopefully take care of the overpopulation of gun nuts.

[Feeling the Bern]

10. Guns, alcohol, and unchecked macho testosterone in a sexualized setting

Nothing can go wrong there, except:

1: If an armed man is rejected by a woman he is turned on by and follows her to her car;
2: If an armed man or another man (armed or not) hit on the same woman and she choosed the latter, nor the former;
3: Some guy (armed or not) hits on someone's wife or girlfriend without knowing she is attached, and the attachment may be armed;
4: A bar fight at the pool tables (which is where 65% of all bar fight begin) escalates because someone has gin.

Or closing time, when someone is tossed out and returned at last call to look for the reason he got tossed, or to just shoot up the place out of drunken revenge.

Yeah. . .guns and alcohol go well together. Just like an open fire and trying to calm and angry mob.

[OregonBlue]

13. I agree. I just wish every state would make booze and guns together legal so that they can kill each

other off. Once people start shooting other people at the bar, no sane people will want to go there any longer. The gun nuts can all go get drunk and shoot each other. Problem solved. Less alcoholism and more dead gun crazies. Works for me.

[sarisataka]

14. So it is less about the violence

than whom the violence is done to? Gun deaths are no problem as long as it is the 'right' people dying...

[Feeling the Bern]

19. :rolls eyes:

[sarisataka]

20. Roll your eyes all you want,

but it doesn't make it less true.

In a post below the victim is simply referred to as "breeding stock". I see no rolling of eyes to such a dehumanizing of a woman.

[Feeling the Bern]

23. :rolls eyes again at defending gun humpers:

[sarisataka]

24. I'd rather be known for defending

Gun humpers' lives as having value than for diminish humans to cattle.

[Judi Lynn]

26. Gun humpers can look out for themselves. That's why they hump their guns.

There's no reason to try to inhibit opinion expressed by more balanced people who don't choose to intimidate fellow human beings by being a constant threat to everyone.

[Feeling the Bern]

28. Like taking a loaded AR-15 to buy tic tacs at a convenience store?

If you need a loaded assault rifle to by toilet paper, you need to always wear brown pants.

[sarisataka]

31. Who took an AR to buy tic tacs?

I am talking about valuing every life are not looking on woman as chattel...

[Feeling the Bern]

34. Post #18 said that. I did not write post #18. Why don't you direct your anger at that poster

This is like yelling at someone for something someone else said.

Respond to that person over the "breeding stock" comment. Unless you just want to attack me for the words of another DUer.

[sarisataka]

39. If you look back

I did criticize their post. You came in with the rolling eyes to my criticism...
You seem more upset with my objection to the comparing a woman to "breeding stock" than the actual comparison.

[Feeling the Bern]

41. I'm rolling my eyes at your self-righteousness, not anything else.

Sometimes, I don't respond to idiotic comments like post #18 because their words show them for what they are and I don't need to comment on it. I can just let the person expose themselves and let it be.

[sarisataka]

43. See #42

[sarisataka]

30. Is every person

At a gun range a gun humper?
Is a woman who shoots guns or associates with those who do simply "breeding stock"?
Do you subscribe to the "thin the herd" philosophy?

The more gun owner's toddlers kill their parents and themselves, the fewer nuts of breeding age are left and the higher the average IQ of the nation will rise

[Feeling the Bern]

33. :epic facepalm:

putting on ignore. you are just looking to hijack and start a fight in which you can report. I am not getting into this with you.

Bye. Think whatever you want. As John Lennon sang: "Whatever gets you thru the night."

Don't use another DUer's terms against me. I never said breeding stock. Take that up with them.

[sarisataka]

35. Don't be afraid

I don't alert. Juries are capricious IME.

I did take up with that poster who said that. You leaped in to defend them

[Feeling the Bern]

37. I never responded to post #18. no one did. Look for yourself, then apologize.

I never defended the poster. I never attacked the poster. I never said anything. So your words of me defending that post are wrong and demand retractions and apologies.

[sarisataka]

42. Ah my bad

It was the upside of guns and alcohol killing off people that started this subthread.

I thought I had replied to that and will rectify my error.

I do apologize for that association.

I stand by my opposition to deaths of anyone, gun crazy or sane. I will not celebrate or look forward to any deaths by violence.

[Feeling the Bern]

46. Accepted.

[Feeling the Bern]

47. I stand by my original stance. Alcohol and guns are an excellent combination,

just like an angry, riotous mob and starting an open fire.

[Feeling the Bern]

27. :can't stop rolling eyes at the self-righteousness:

[femmedem]

52. I stand with you on this.

Thanks for going against the cruel tide of group think.

[sarisataka]

56. Thank you.

I refuse to compromise my view on the value of life. Political stance does not make one a lesser person.

While I believe in the right of self defense, no one, even the criminal, is unimportant. The assailant's death may be a necessity to protect the victim but it is still a tragic loss.

[Crunchy Frog]

21. As long as they keep the violence to themselves, I'm absolutely fine.

[OregonBlue]

50. As long as it's the people who are crazy for guns, yes. If they are such morons that they

wanna carry their weapons into a bar and get drunk with a bunch of other people getting drunk and carrying guns, hey, I say go for it. It's all about the consequences of your choices as the Reich-Wing will tell you.

[elmac]

11. I checked out her twitter account

her last tweet was the day before she was shot. Looking at her history it seems to me that she was a progressive young lady. She may have been invited there by friends or relatives, don't think it was something she would be comfortable with. Another innocent victim of a stray or intentional bullet.

[IronLionZion]

22. It's sad that people think going to a shooting range gun humper

plenty of liberals and normal people shoot guns every now and then

[benEzra]

59. Are you basing that assessment on the fact that she was progressive, or her gender?

Because at least one in four Dems (and one in three indies) owns guns, and around a third of gun owners are female, with ownership more common among younger women than older, and more common in suburban/rural areas. And this was in South Carolina, where the household ownership rate is around 50%, not New York City.

I'd like to know the circumstances of what happened, whether it was a murder, or if it was a violation of safety rules by someone, or if it was a facility issue (e.g. worn-out berm). The range has been operating 24 years without an accident prior to this one.

[dionysus]

64. I'm a progressive gun owner. It's not the rarest thing. They're not super important

to me, or something i think much about... they live in a safe, licked up and out of sight.

There's millions of non urban dems who own firearms, who arent gun obsessed militia nuts. When you live in a place where having a gun isnt just not a big deal, its actually commonplace, and someones tunning around saying you're a nut and laughing when people get accidentally shot, it's cause for heavy eye rolling at the least. It's certainly not a vote getter, in fact it's politicsl suicide in many places.

[HAB911]

18. DITTO. They keep shooting their own breeding stock........n/t

[sarisataka]

44. Do you equate many

Women with breeding stock?
Whether you do or do not, what thought process leads to the conclusion that a violent death is a good thing?

[HAB911]

49. Did I say anything about women?

More dead idiots is always a good thing. See response #48.


BTW, what thought process leads to the conclusion that men are not breeding stock? tia

[sarisataka]

55. Since the victim was a woman

it is reasonable to believe your term refers to her gender.

I know your view on "dead idiots"

As for me, I subscribe to the "thin the herd" philosophy. The more gun owner's toddlers kill their parents and themselves, the fewer nuts of breeding age are left and the higher the average IQ of the nation will rise.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1649445
if you are willing to accept the deaths of children as an overall good thing in the long run, why should I expect you value their mothers any more?

[Devil Child]

29. You would call me a "gun humper"

If you saw me at the range, maybe make assumptions about who I am and what believe/stand for/fight for. That would probably change very quickly after a few minutes of conversation and realizing we are probably more aligned than opposed on many things.

A lifelong Democrat. A Gore/Kerry/Obama/Clinton voter. A supporter of Sanders in the primary(I still feel the Bern).

You still want me to shoot myself and remove myself from the collective American gene pool as you say?

[Feeling the Bern]

32. Okay. . .before I moved overseas, I owned a Winchester XPR and SXP for hunting, a Colt .45 for

protectiong (along with a well trained rottweiler), and many vintage weapons from different wars from history.

Your point? My HS closed for first day of hunting season.

If you're an NRA gun humper, please do. We don't need more NRA assholes in the world. IF you are responsible, please continue to be that way.

If I saw you are the range? I would never go to places like that. The one time I did I listened to too much right wing, militia bullshit. . .so yes, I would. Then, if we spoke politics, I would change my mind. But since I normally keep to myself in public, we probably wouldn't speak. And since I never "go to the range," this would never happen.

I went target practicing alone in the woods, or brought a friend of mine with me who was an army veteran.

[Devil Child]

36. My point

Is that wishing death upon those who are "gun humpers" many who very well could be a potential Democrats/progressives/allies comes across as twisted and vitriolic.

Responsibility is the goal, and actively worked for at all times. Peace.

edit: just saw your additions to post. I agree with experiences at ranges. Sometimes it is lack of better terms a cesspool, but I see that change every year with more diversity in shooter out where I'm at. It is by no means a good 'ol boys preserve any more.

[Feeling the Bern]

38. Did you read my post? How many women were killed to get suffrage? Workers before unions?

Blacks before Jim Crow was ended (sort of).

Sometimes, until it hurts a group, they will not change their ideas. So, as far as I am concerned, the more hun humpers that off themselves, maybe that will get us closer to real, good gun control laws.

[TheBlackAdder]

9. It's South Carolina, of course it was an "accident."

[Feeling the Bern]

12. Only if you're black and your shooter is a cop.

[Yurovsky]

40. Ain't that the truth... *

[Judi Lynn]

16. Young woman dies after being shot in the eye at South Carolina gun range

BY Christopher Brennan

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Updated: Thursday, December 29, 2016, 3:56 PM


A 24-year-old Georgia woman died after being shot in the eye at a gun range.

Sarah Bonner was shot Monday afternoon at Skip-J Range in Anderson, S.C., and authorities are investigating whether it was an accident.

She survived for several days on life support, but Anderson County Coroner Greg Shore confirmed her death on Thursday.

Members of Skip-J were shooting at the time, and Anderson County Sheriff’s Lt. Sheila Cole said that an autopsy will help determine which gun fired the fatal shot.

More:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/young-woman-dies-shot-eye-gun-range-article-1.2927864

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Sarah Bonner

[smirkymonkey]

62. Very sad.

I really hate guns. It is a shame that this young woman's life was taken so senselessly.

[Vinca]

17. But . . . never mind . . . guns are good. The more guns the better.

[bullimiami]

48. Natural selection. Again.

[lapfog_1]

53. I know I'm bad... but my first thought was

Christmas... shot in the eye

[Hoyt]

54. Luckily that range was back in operation the next day so all the gun humping white wing racists

could get in their target practice.

[ManiacJoe]

65. What would any delay actually change?

[Hoyt]

67. Probably nothing, Maniac, because gunners would have just found somewhere else to practice

shooting people or stayed home and daydreamed about being the next George Zimmerman.

Were you one of the gunners who ran out and bought a bushmaster after Sandy Hook, assuming you didn't have one before?

[ManiacJoe]

68. Your goal for the delay is just to inconvenience people?

No actual constructive purpose?
Is that the correct interpretation of your answer?

[BigDemVoter]

66. I'd rather it be some gun nut at a gun range than an "innocent victim."

And if that sounds harsh, I'm not sorry for writing it.

[Marengo]

69. Did the woman in question commit any gun crime prior to the accident?