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Jose Garcia

(2,592 posts)
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 03:20 PM Feb 2017

Two GOP senators to vote 'no' on Betsy DeVos

Source: The Hill

GOP Sens. Susan Collins (Maine) and Lisa Murkowski in back-to-back speeches on the Senate floor announced Wednesday that they would oppose Betsy DeVos's nomination to be Education secretary.

They are the first two Republicans to break with Trump on any of his Cabinet picks, and the votes could make it difficult for DeVos to win confirmation.

If all of the Senate's Democrats vote against DeVos, she would have 50 votes if the remaining Republicans backed her — with Vice President Mike Pence potentially breaking the tie. No Democrats have backed DeVos.

"I come to the floor to announce a very difficult decision that I have made, and that is to vote against the confirmation of Betsy DeVos to be our nation's next secretary of Education," Collins said from the Senate floor.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/317379-gop-senator-to-vote-no-on-betsy-devos

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Two GOP senators to vote 'no' on Betsy DeVos (Original Post) Jose Garcia Feb 2017 OP
Thank you Lisa bravenak Feb 2017 #1
How can we thank them? Chiquitita Feb 2017 #2
I'm GLAD, but I'm not GRATEFUL. BigDemVoter Feb 2017 #6
I hear your anger. I'm angry too. Chiquitita Feb 2017 #10
That's what she's supposed to do...what those who elected her want NoGoodNamesLeft Feb 2017 #20
Good for them! sheshe2 Feb 2017 #3
Thank you for voting your conscience. SCRUBDASHRUB Feb 2017 #4
Sadly.... The_Voice_of_Reason Feb 2017 #5
Now all we need is one more GOP senator with the courage to say NO to DeVos red dog 1 Feb 2017 #7
They are going to need to vote on DeVos before Sessions Jose Garcia Feb 2017 #9
If they confirm Sessions before the vote NoGoodNamesLeft Feb 2017 #21
Best bets are barrage calls to Repub Senators ( eg. Nv, Co) in Dem leaning states. stuffmatters Feb 2017 #27
Good idea...and barrage Faxes too (if you have a fax machine) red dog 1 Feb 2017 #28
I'm calling Repub relativess in NV & Co, riling them that the public education they pay for stuffmatters Feb 2017 #38
Interesting both Republican anti-DeVos senators are female n/t delisen Feb 2017 #8
Most likely GOP leadership gave Collins & Murkowski permission to vote no... Girard442 Feb 2017 #11
Note that Murkowski voted yes to help DeVos get out of committee Tom Rinaldo Feb 2017 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author red dog 1 Feb 2017 #30
I guess that we will see how skillful Mitch McConnell is at counting votes Jose Garcia Feb 2017 #40
Difficult? snort Feb 2017 #12
Don't need just more republicans angrychair Feb 2017 #13
Who were the 14 for Tillerson? FBaggins Feb 2017 #29
+ 1 red dog 1 Feb 2017 #31
I will not thank them mountain grammy Feb 2017 #14
Joe Manchin will probably vote for her to Ilsa Feb 2017 #15
Manchin is a confirmed no nt geek tragedy Feb 2017 #18
Oh, good. I was afraid his constituents had him by the balls. nt Ilsa Feb 2017 #19
Manchin stated he wouldn't be voting for her. red dog 1 Feb 2017 #32
Yes, the other reply told me. NT Ilsa Feb 2017 #33
Anybody seen a quote from Murkowski saying she'll vote No? ... CaptainTruth Feb 2017 #16
Several sources report Murkowski will vote NO red dog 1 Feb 2017 #34
Thanks. I just read the reports in all those sources & none quote her saying she'll vote no CaptainTruth Feb 2017 #39
They will let the two break ranks, but not a third. Dustlawyer Feb 2017 #17
You're probably right red dog 1 Feb 2017 #35
Probably simply token no votes meant to try and quell some of the controversy of putting a person cstanleytech Feb 2017 #22
Sounds like they are just covering their own ass so they can use the term "moderate" Scruffy1 Feb 2017 #23
Good for them wryter2000 Feb 2017 #24
That's exactly what I said in reply # 7 red dog 1 Feb 2017 #36
You bet wryter2000 Feb 2017 #43
So we have JMCoast Feb 2017 #26
Harry Reid said you can always count on Susan Collins' vote when it didn't matter adigal Feb 2017 #37
DeVos will still win DownriverDem Feb 2017 #41
Put a hold on her, and the rest of dRumpf's garbage appointees. nt. Mc Mike Feb 2017 #42
PENNSYLVANIANS -- Call Sen Toomey today bigworld Feb 2017 #44

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
6. I'm GLAD, but I'm not GRATEFUL.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 03:42 PM
Feb 2017

They are only doing their fucking JOBS. And Susan Collins is NO "moderate"; she is an awful, awful person. She is ONLY doing this, as she knows if she doesn't that she'll be in deep SHIT with her constituents.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
20. That's what she's supposed to do...what those who elected her want
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 06:16 PM
Feb 2017

I am originally from Maine and she is extremely popular because while she has her own positions on things she doesn't just blindly go along with the Republicans and she DOES listen to those she represents and takes that into account. She's one of the few Republicans who actually do their job as they are supposed to. I don't get the hate directed at her. If all Senators did that then we'd all be in a much better country.

5. Sadly....
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 03:37 PM
Feb 2017

We need one more Republican to cross the aisle or it is all for naught as Pence would cast the deciding vote in favor of Betsy DeVos.

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
7. Now all we need is one more GOP senator with the courage to say NO to DeVos
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 03:46 PM
Feb 2017

and Trump will have to find some other unqualified person for Education Secretary.

(Joe Manchin (D-VA) won't be voting for her)

K&R

Jose Garcia

(2,592 posts)
9. They are going to need to vote on DeVos before Sessions
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 03:53 PM
Feb 2017

Since it appears that DeVos will not be confirmed without Session's vote.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
21. If they confirm Sessions before the vote
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 06:17 PM
Feb 2017

Then shouldn't it only take two since he would no longer get to vote?

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
28. Good idea...and barrage Faxes too (if you have a fax machine)
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:35 PM
Feb 2017

Those faxes pile up on the floor if enough are sent.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
38. I'm calling Repub relativess in NV & Co, riling them that the public education they pay for
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:33 PM
Feb 2017

is going to be gifted to Wall Street under DeVos. So far three of them are calling their Repub Senator to ask him not to vote for
Devos or any other nominee for Sec'y of (giving away the public) Education their taxes pay for.

Girard442

(6,066 posts)
11. Most likely GOP leadership gave Collins & Murkowski permission to vote no...
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 04:37 PM
Feb 2017

...knowing that the remaining 50 were rock-solid. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
25. Note that Murkowski voted yes to help DeVos get out of committee
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:19 PM
Feb 2017

There were probably negotiations over that, allowing DeVos to get out of the committee in return for being able to oppose her on the floor for her constituents, but not stop the nomination. Hope I'm wrong, but doubt it.

Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #25)

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
29. Who were the 14 for Tillerson?
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:43 PM
Feb 2017

He was confirmed 56-43 so there must have been a bunch of Republican defectors, right?

Ilsa

(61,691 posts)
15. Joe Manchin will probably vote for her to
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 05:54 PM
Feb 2017

Satisfy his constituents. Unless more Rs defect, we're stuck with her.

CaptainTruth

(6,582 posts)
16. Anybody seen a quote from Murkowski saying she'll vote No? ...
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 06:09 PM
Feb 2017

This & other sources I've seen quote her as saying "I do not intend to vote," which to me means she's abstaining, not voting, which of course is not a "No" vote, it's just not voting at all.

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
34. Several sources report Murkowski will vote NO
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:13 PM
Feb 2017

Including CNN, WaPo, and KTLA TV (Los Angeles) and the NY Daily News

CaptainTruth

(6,582 posts)
39. Thanks. I just read the reports in all those sources & none quote her saying she'll vote no
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:27 PM
Feb 2017

The Hill quotes her saying she "will not vote" & concludes that means she'll vote no, but to me "will not vote" means "will not vote," which means abstain, & that won't add a vote in the No column.

We've all seen plenty of sloppy journalism & reporters jumping to inaccurate conclusions, I just wonder if that's the case here. Guess we'll find out soon enough.

cstanleytech

(26,276 posts)
22. Probably simply token no votes meant to try and quell some of the controversy of putting a person
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 06:37 PM
Feb 2017

so clearly anti education in charge of education.

Scruffy1

(3,254 posts)
23. Sounds like they are just covering their own ass so they can use the term "moderate"
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 06:39 PM
Feb 2017

They've pulled this shit many times. See how they vote when it is the deciding vote and I'll believe them.

JMCoast

(37 posts)
26. So we have
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 08:20 PM
Feb 2017

Murkowski, Collins, and an occasional Mccain or Lindsay Graham that might show some guts once in a while. Pretty pathetic but I guess it's a start. The idiot in chief will surely coax a few more to wake up won't he? Yeah......right

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
37. Harry Reid said you can always count on Susan Collins' vote when it didn't matter
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:17 PM
Feb 2017

Which in this would mean that no other Repubs are going to cross the aisle, and Pence will vote her in.

I still think we need to flood people like Dean Heller's office with calls.

DownriverDem

(6,227 posts)
41. DeVos will still win
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:54 AM
Feb 2017

Why? There will be no other repub senator that has the spine to vote against her. So it will look good for Collins & Murkowski, but that's all.

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