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HAB911

(8,867 posts)
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:48 AM Feb 2017

161,000 Florida voters failed to vote for president

Source: Tampa Bay Times

TALLAHASSEE — The number of Florida voters who failed to cast a valid ballot for president spiked during the 2016 election, in what appears to have been a significant protest over their choices.

State officials released a report this week showing more than 161,000 of the electorate did not cast a valid vote for president in November. The rate of invalid votes for president in 2016 was more than double the rate it was in 2012 and 2008.

This number includes those who wrote an invalid name on the ballot, like Mickey Mouse, or left the ballot blank. It also includes those who voted for more than one candidate.

Republican Donald Trump won Florida and its 29 electoral votes by defeating Democrat Hillary Clinton by nearly 113,000 votes.

Read more: http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/elections/161000-florida-voters-failed-to-vote-for-president/2311722



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161,000 Florida voters failed to vote for president (Original Post) HAB911 Feb 2017 OP
Why is the noun "ballot" being modified by the Adjective Friend or Foe Feb 2017 #1
because people wrote in a candidate that was not running. mopinko Feb 2017 #3
Or because the tabulators zeroed out a bunch of people in Dem precincts lostnfound Feb 2017 #20
And without looking at the article I would guess they were African Americans. Botany Feb 2017 #2
i dunno. people do do it. mopinko Feb 2017 #4
Lol, yeah they deserve the benefit of the doubt at this point over irregularities. JTFrog Feb 2017 #7
meh. i am not saying the election is legit, i'm just saying mopinko Feb 2017 #10
That (nt) Orrex Feb 2017 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author asuhornets Feb 2017 #6
You misunderstood completely. JTFrog Feb 2017 #11
I stand corrected. My apology. n/t asuhornets Feb 2017 #13
Not to mention alteration by hacking triron Feb 2017 #22
"valid" president voted for, write-in area blank. "Not valid" president voted for, a scribble in wr Sunlei Feb 2017 #8
You don't get the government you want, you get the government you deserve. Javaman Feb 2017 #9
That huge number says 'spoilage' more than is says 'protest vote'. Mc Mike Feb 2017 #12
Exactly Ligyron Feb 2017 #15
There were problems in the past in both FL and OH with pre-spoiled ballots, Mc Mike Feb 2017 #16
I heard "None of the above" for President more than ever this election. eom LittleGirl Feb 2017 #14
What bullshit!! Another sign it was rigged like Michigan!! ElementaryPenguin Feb 2017 #17
agree 100 percent.... dhill926 Feb 2017 #18
Especially not in a swing state nt lostnfound Feb 2017 #21
All of this makes me want to have a tantrum of epic proportions. DK504 Feb 2017 #19

mopinko

(70,022 posts)
3. because people wrote in a candidate that was not running.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:56 AM
Feb 2017

i wonder how many wrote in bernie's name. they wouldnt have even counted them, because he was not a valid right in.
but i suspect he got more votes than mickey mouse, even tho this is florida.

lostnfound

(16,162 posts)
20. Or because the tabulators zeroed out a bunch of people in Dem precincts
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 03:55 PM
Feb 2017

Some of the software has the ability to weight by precinct

Botany

(70,447 posts)
2. And without looking at the article I would guess they were African Americans.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:56 AM
Feb 2017

80,000 in the Detroit and Flint area of Michigan voted but skipped voting for
POTUS in 2016.

It was rigged and it was a coup.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
7. Lol, yeah they deserve the benefit of the doubt at this point over irregularities.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:05 AM
Feb 2017

It's not like we had any suspicions or evidence of interference in the elections. Those intelligence guys were lying about everything and Donald won by 3,000,000 votes.



C'mon.... I know you want to believe in the spoiler, but I don't buy that shit for a minute.

mopinko

(70,022 posts)
10. meh. i am not saying the election is legit, i'm just saying
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:10 AM
Feb 2017

that an awful lot of people pledged to do just that.
the spoiler thing is not something i have ragged on.

Response to Botany (Reply #2)

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
11. You misunderstood completely.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:15 AM
Feb 2017

He isn't suggesting that African Americans didn't actually vote for President. His last sentence makes it clear that the suspicion is that this is a bullshit statistic. Most likely provided by Crosscheck and Florida Republicans.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
8. "valid" president voted for, write-in area blank. "Not valid" president voted for, a scribble in wr
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:08 AM
Feb 2017

a scribble in write in area.

Javaman

(62,504 posts)
9. You don't get the government you want, you get the government you deserve.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:09 AM
Feb 2017

and these fucking halfwits got what they deserve.

Sadly, we all now pay the price.

Mc Mike

(9,111 posts)
12. That huge number says 'spoilage' more than is says 'protest vote'.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:25 AM
Feb 2017

Points to rigging, not 3rd party voting purists.

Ligyron

(7,616 posts)
15. Exactly
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:37 AM
Feb 2017

I seriously doubt that there were many "protest" non-votes by leaving the Prez spot unmarked or writing in whatever.

The meme I see here that it was Bernie Bro's which caused Hills to lose is ridiculous as well.

We have a real problem with our election process and little power to fix it right now. We're going to have to copy the GOP/tea party and start from scratch by running in state and local elections. There, at least, we have more power to observe and correct.

Our protest movement is far larger than their astro turfed garden party.

Mc Mike

(9,111 posts)
16. There were problems in the past in both FL and OH with pre-spoiled ballots,
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:59 AM
Feb 2017

already showing a preference, then the voter made a choice, et voila, too many preferences recorded.

The state and local jurisdictions are an important place to re establish our non astroturfed, actual numerical supremacy, you're right.

Turn out is important, reducing ineffective top weighted hierarchical organizing attempts is important, making sure the people who did turn out get to vote and have it duly recorded is important.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
17. What bullshit!! Another sign it was rigged like Michigan!!
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:06 AM
Feb 2017

NO ONE waited in long lines in this election so they could NOT vote for President!!!!!!!!!! Why - to make sure you voted for County Commissioner??

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