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Botany

(70,500 posts)
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:00 PM Feb 2017

Kellyanne Conway Admits Bowling Green Massacre Error

Source: NY Times

Kellyanne Conway, the adviser to President Trump who coined the phrase alternative facts, is facing another round of criticism and fact-checking after she falsely spoke of a Bowling Green massacre by Iraqi refugees. She acknowledged and corrected her statement Friday morning on Twitter.

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In fact, no Bowling Green massacre ever happened.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/03/us/politics/bowling-green-massacre-kellyanne-conway.html



It was not an error. She lied.

Lie #1 Obama started it.

Lie #2 There was a massacre.
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Kellyanne Conway Admits Bowling Green Massacre Error (Original Post) Botany Feb 2017 OP
"falsely spoke" ---- lied keithbvadu2 Feb 2017 #1
from the NY Times link Botany Feb 2017 #5
Funny thing --- truth does not need a "clarification". keithbvadu2 Feb 2017 #6
same tactic as "computer glitches" with computerized voting in elections diva77 Feb 2017 #9
She alternatively facted. Nt Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2017 #21
She knows Trump's lemmings have already absorbed the lie. tenorly Feb 2017 #2
Maybe she's ill, confusing words like that is not a good sign ck4829 Feb 2017 #3
They have no shame. eom guillaumeb Feb 2017 #4
Fuck her!!! gopiscrap Feb 2017 #7
Not even The Sand Reckoner Feb 2017 #24
ugly is more than skin deep onethatcares Feb 2017 #8
I never have... IthinkThereforeIAM Feb 2017 #20
Too late, propaganda Barbie. brer cat Feb 2017 #10
The other day, she was calling for journalists to be fired for making mistakes. Thor_MN Feb 2017 #11
If it were really a mistake, she'd join in on the joking. haele Feb 2017 #12
She lies just like Trump rockfordfile Feb 2017 #13
The hateful viper then turned around and insulted Hillary and Tanuki Feb 2017 #14
Error my ass orangecrush Feb 2017 #15
Honest mistake angrychair Feb 2017 #16
I hope you're being sarcastic. yardwork Feb 2017 #23
Good on her. Now where are those rust belt jobs your boss promised? ffr Feb 2017 #17
Good on her? For finally realizing everyone knows she's lying? mdbl Feb 2017 #28
Maybe she Meant Ccarmona Feb 2017 #18
Kelleyanne was RIGHT!!!!! OldRedneck Feb 2017 #19
Not an error. She deliberately lied. yardwork Feb 2017 #22
Remember 'wag the dog'? She lied to distract from Trump killing a SEAL with a bad plan. keithbvadu2 Feb 2017 #25
I agree tavernier Feb 2017 #36
But we LOVED the Iraqis. torius Feb 2017 #26
You all should stop fact-shaming her n/t underpants Feb 2017 #27
That ain't gonna stop her from talking faster than her brain works. forgotmylogin Feb 2017 #29
I'm not impressed with her. Lanius Feb 2017 #30
Everything that comes out of her mouth is an error. She thought people would be dumb enough appleannie1943 Feb 2017 #31
Just Another Lie Ccarmona Feb 2017 #32
So, she goes on national television and LIES, and then admits it on Twitter? George II Feb 2017 #33
Great distraction, wasn't it? tavernier Feb 2017 #37
If it's was any other "expert" that lied on-air would they be invited back? Blue Idaho Feb 2017 #34
She would never have said a thing if she hadn't been caught AND rurallib Feb 2017 #35
Not good enough. Damage is already done dreamland Feb 2017 #38
OK, look, sometimes it's difficult Turbineguy Feb 2017 #39
Not seeing the humor myself - there's that persistent 20-30% who are cultists & will Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2017 #40
personifies heaven05 Feb 2017 #41
If she really IS an adviser to OUR Federal Gov. She* should be on official Gov. channels/w records. Sunlei Feb 2017 #42

Botany

(70,500 posts)
5. from the NY Times link
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:09 PM
Feb 2017

The Clarification

On Friday morning, Ms. Conway admitted she had put out wrong information. “Honest mistakes abound,” she wrote on Twitter — and pointed to missteps the news media had made in covering the Trump administration.

********

So lying is an honest mistake?

diva77

(7,640 posts)
9. same tactic as "computer glitches" with computerized voting in elections
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:24 PM
Feb 2017

we never get to the real story when we avoid using words like "lies"

and we never get the investigation we deserve when we call false computer data a "glitch"

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
2. She knows Trump's lemmings have already absorbed the lie.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:07 PM
Feb 2017

Lies go around the world, before the truth can tie its shoelaces.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
11. The other day, she was calling for journalists to be fired for making mistakes.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:29 PM
Feb 2017

Et Tu, Skeletor Barbie?

haele

(12,647 posts)
12. If it were really a mistake, she'd join in on the joking.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:32 PM
Feb 2017

But she intended to use the term "Bowling Green Massacre" - most likely because Rand Paul (R-Aqua-Buddha) blathered on about the two Iraqi refugees that were going to bomb near where he lived "in Bowling Green". Doesn't matter they were arrested for sending money and electronic supplies that could be used for IEDs to Iraq, and there was no indication they had been planning anything here in the States...

You know she didn't remember if anything actually happened there in 2011 Kentucky, but since Paul made it sound like there could have been a mushroom cloud Iraqi-born terrorist style event, the White House felt there would be no problem ramping up the anti-immigrant paranoia "justifying" their knee-jerk Friday EO.

Haele

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
14. The hateful viper then turned around and insulted Hillary and
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:47 PM
Feb 2017

once again tried to rub everyone decent's nose in the election results, as if losing by 3 million votes is something to be proud of.

https://mobile.twitter.com/KellyannePolls/status/827581317969764352

yardwork

(61,598 posts)
23. I hope you're being sarcastic.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 09:03 PM
Feb 2017

The point of her entire statement was that there was a massacre caused by terrorists. Substituting the word terrorist makes her statement gibberish.

She didn't misspeak. She deliberately lied to stir up people's emotions and get them to support the travel ban.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
18. Maybe she Meant
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:28 PM
Feb 2017

The 1960 plane crash killing members of the Cal Poly football team as they left Toledo airport after losing to Bowling Green

http://avstop.com/news/cs.html

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
19. Kelleyanne was RIGHT!!!!!
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:36 PM
Feb 2017

Someone may already have pointed this out, but:

KELLEYANNE WAS RIGHT -- THERE REALLY WAS A BOWLING GREEN MASSACRE.

Sep 3, 2016
Ohio State -- 77
Bowling Green -- 10

Read all about it here:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2661548-bowling-green-vs-ohio-state-live-score-highlights-for-falcons-vs-buckeyes

keithbvadu2

(36,778 posts)
25. Remember 'wag the dog'? She lied to distract from Trump killing a SEAL with a bad plan.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 09:07 PM
Feb 2017

Remember 'wag the dog'? She lied to distract from Trump killing a SEAL with a bad plan.

tavernier

(12,381 posts)
36. I agree
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 09:51 PM
Feb 2017

Whenever he takes a big dump, someone on his team pulls a stupid boner to distract from the bigger news. Works pretty well, so why would they stop?
"Hey Kell, boss just blew up a small country. Get out there and say something really bizarre. Spicer bit the bullet yesterday, so it's your turn."

torius

(1,652 posts)
26. But we LOVED the Iraqis.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 09:10 PM
Feb 2017

We went to war to fight for them, to liberate them and make them dance in the streets. We even gave them democracy, with a ruler installed by us. So why now the hate?? We should be letting them come here in droves. How hypocritical can the Repubs get?

forgotmylogin

(7,527 posts)
29. That ain't gonna stop her from talking faster than her brain works.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 09:28 PM
Feb 2017

Kellyanne had that fact in her mind and brought it out thinking she had her little "gotcha".

What I think happened is she intended to plant her "fact" that "Obama did it too!" by exaggerating that he "stopped immigration", but because she talks at a mile a minute, her mouth said "bowling green massacre" before her brain caught up, because "BGM" is probably a hyperbolic code name for the situation among right-wing news sources. She said it before her brain caught up — similarly to when her throat nearly slammed shut on "alternative facts".

Lanius

(599 posts)
30. I'm not impressed with her.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 09:29 PM
Feb 2017

But Tweety thinks she's the best and has a crush on her, it seems.

I wonder when Drumpf prevents her from giving interviews except on Fox Noise?

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
31. Everything that comes out of her mouth is an error. She thought people would be dumb enough
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 09:32 PM
Feb 2017

to buy that BS and when it blew up in her baggy eyed face and everyone started making fun of her, she came up with the error story. Sorry Brunhilda, when you are known to be a liar, no one believes a damn thing you say.

George II

(67,782 posts)
33. So, she goes on national television and LIES, and then admits it on Twitter?
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 09:40 PM
Feb 2017

How many millions of people saw her on television that don't use Twitter or even know what Twitter is?

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
34. If it's was any other "expert" that lied on-air would they be invited back?
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 09:40 PM
Feb 2017

Stop putting this proven serial liar on news programs!

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
35. She would never have said a thing if she hadn't been caught AND
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 09:44 PM
Feb 2017

she couldn't lie her way out of the original lie.

They must be called on their lies immediately and repeatedly.

dreamland

(964 posts)
38. Not good enough. Damage is already done
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 11:33 PM
Feb 2017

This is their MO all along. They tell a lie, have most of their supporters support the lie, and the DEMs loses because you are just being sore losers in not believing their lie. She needs to be on national TV, admitting she lied.

Turbineguy

(37,320 posts)
39. OK, look, sometimes it's difficult
Sat Feb 4, 2017, 07:59 AM
Feb 2017

to differentiate between types of bullshit. There's a lot of nuance. For those of us on the outside looking in, it's all bullshit. But when you're on the inside looking out, there's nuance.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
40. Not seeing the humor myself - there's that persistent 20-30% who are cultists & will
Sat Feb 4, 2017, 11:58 AM
Feb 2017

believe it along with all the other lies and anciful stories - Obama a secret muslim etc.

Enough people, in other words, to be a destructive force in our democratic process.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
42. If she really IS an adviser to OUR Federal Gov. She* should be on official Gov. channels/w records.
Sat Feb 4, 2017, 02:17 PM
Feb 2017

* statements that she makes. Any statements she makes should be official government recorded records.

They aren't and even trump tweets most of his WORSE, destabilizing crap on his personal twitter account. trump then, re-tweets his personal twitter 'statements' to our governments official @POTUS and @White House accounts.

Deceptive because those statements aren't part of our government positions OR records, yet statements are taken by duped Americans and other countries as American policy.

I imagine todays Republican run government is very much like how "hitlers government" would have been if they had the internet back then.

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