Trump defends Putin: 'You think our country's so innocent?'

[TygrBright]

Source: The Hill

"He's a leader of his country. I say it's better to get along with Russia than not, and if Russia helps us in the fight against ISIS – which is a major fight, and Islamic terrorism all over the world – that's a good thing. Will I get along with him? I have no idea."

O'Reilly pressed Trump on his statement, saying, "But he's a killer though. Putin's a killer."

"There are a lot of killers. We've got a lot of killers. What, you think our country's so innocent?" Trump responded.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/317945-trump-defends-putin-you-think-our-country-is-so-innocent

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He said that.

He actually SAID that.

In an interview with BILL O'REILLY, of all people!

Can you IMAGINE what they'd have done to Obama?

amazedly,
Bright

[mobeau69]

1. CNN is running this right now. Unbelievable!

Is there any line this unfit clown can't cross?

[OKIsItJustMe]

39. Trump: 'You think our country's so innocent?'

Video here: http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/04/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin/

[DK504]

109. Is he really this stupid?

"There are a lot of killers. We've got a lot of killers. What, you think our country's so innocent?" Trump responded."

Might as well tell O'Lielly all our state secrets too. Good Gad. Can someone please muzzle this dog?

[raising2moredems]

122. LMFAO..

And wasn't it just the other day when the pukes were saying Obama was apologizing for the US? I guess we all need to "pray to jaysus" that those who continue to drink the kool-aid and blame everyone except themselves to leave this earth post haste and stop reproducing.

[Crash2Parties]

46. I'm guessing you don't have a p**sy for him to grab.

He "crossed the line" a long time ago.

It's just now sinking in for many people.

For most of his "fans" it may never sink in.

The biggest problem is that the media has actively normalized it all.

[Wabbajack_]

73. This comment is many things

"Unbelievable" is not one of them.

[Hortensis]

95. Umhm. Not the first time he's revealed he sees murder

of personal opponents as a routine tool of power for those at the top.

[mjvpi]

105. Drones

Nobody hates trump more than me. President Bush( and every American citizen by proxy) has the blood of hundreds of thousands of innocents on his hands. I can acknowledge that reality and find room in my mind to hate Trump and Putin. Obama's drone program killed many innocent people. I'm 60 years old. I watched what our government did in my name to many South American countries. Thousands died at the hands of governments installed by our CIA. Nobody hates Trump more than me.

[LiberalLovinLug]

113. I agree, and I don't understand the backlash to this of all statements by Trump in here

It was another stupid, not well thought out answer from a man-baby that grabbed at whatever "but, but, but...." type of deflection he could think of at the second.

But of course the US has engaged in brutal, covert and non covert, anti-democratic destabalizing actions around the globe in the last century. Helped countless dictators round up students, activists, priests to be murdered and/or tortured. For fucks sake they still run the School of Americas

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/9685-the-school-of-the-americas-the-cia-and-the-us-condoned-cancer-of-torture-continues-to-spread-in-latin-america-including-mexico



Hey, its all out war now, and I'm not against using this faux pas against him, but lets at least be honest about it.

[JHan]

126. All countries do horrible things but we don't kill journalists..

or have opposition members murdered.

[Glimmer of Hope]

2. Everyone kills so that makes it ok!

[dalton99a]

3. Fucking traitor trashing his own country every chance he gets.

[Hortensis]

91. Further proof that Prez Trump is mentally disordered.

On national TV. Hopefully, over time accumulated evidence that we actually elected a man so profoundly dysfunctional that he cannot think like a normal person will cause those capable of reflection to question their choices.

[HassleCat]

4. If Obama said we're as bad as Russia?

You couldn't pick up a newspaper because it would burst into flames. He would have been impeached, removed from office, and driven into exile.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

5. Holy. Fucking. Shit.

[tenorly]

6. well, NO country is. But you're OUR President, Cheeto - not Russia's.

And while you remain our President, you'll comport yourself as such (if you can at all).

[Marthe48]

7. TRAITOR!

trump is a TRAITOR. Anybody who supports him, sides with him, defends him is a TRAITOR. I hate to evoke Joe McCarthy, but 60 some years ago, he ruined careers by accusing people of being communists. Right now, today, we have proof every single day thattrump is selling our country to Russia and the same people who attacked innocent people 60 years ago are the same people who support trump's puppet regime. TRAITORS!

[Fast Walker 52]

94. yes, it's so obvious and anyone who EVER defends this piece of shit needs to be treated

as a collaborator in treason

[George II]

8. That question is treasonous.

[mobeau69]

12. Absolutely. It's time for the Pukes in Congress

to choose their side.

[Deb]

24. I can't breath

GOP poster boy put a target on the back of every military uniform. Omg

[rug]

9. Well, we do know trump killed an 8 year old American citizen this week.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/what-went-wrong-inside-yemen-seal-raid-n716216

[tenorly]

21. Not a REAL American girl, as far as the Trumpkins are concerned.

Where are the freckles and pigtails? Where's the Sunday dress with daises on it?

[rug]

23. At least the blood on her wrist is the right color.

[Girard442]

10. Trump fans should ask themselves...

...why does this man who is supposed to be afraid of nothing and no man turn into a total lickspittle when Putin is involved. I mean it's stomach-turning to watch.

[Fast Walker 52]

96. it will be a test for their reasoning power and sense of patriotism

but most of them I think will show a major blind spot for whatever Trump does.

They also have this annoying idea that if Trump does something that pisses off liberals, well, that's great with them, no matter what it is.

Not even exaggerating.

[DetlefK]

11. So... The Republicans had to invent Obama's apology-tours. But Trump trash-talking the US is fine.

[SunSeeker]

13. No you orange shitgibbon, our leaders don't murder our journalists when they write negative stories.

At least they haven't up to now.

[Marthe48]

14. or poison for a slow death

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38844292

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

32. Yet.

I bet he'd do it if he thought he could get away with it.

[LiberalLovinLug]

112. Have you heard of Michael Hastings?

http://nymag.com/news/features/michael-hastings-2013-11/

[SunSeeker]

114. OFFS. Take your bullshit conspiracy theory elsewhere.

Obama did not order Michael Hastings murdered. Michael Hastings killed Michael Hastings. As your article notes, he died going way too fast at 4:20 am in his Mercedes coupe on a sharply curving Los Angeles road.

[LiberalLovinLug]

116. Did I say it was Obama?

Way too much circumstantial evidence for it NOT to be highly suspicious. As Comey proved, there were many rogue elements within the intelligence community, Cheney's "shadow government". Obama himself did not have to be aware of this for it to happen. I was searching just now for a recent government worker guest on the Late Show with Colbert who admitted that the President is not briefed on every single thing, to which Steven was visibly shocked. Can't find it.

What is truly unbelievable is the denial on here and that the US intelligence agencies are so pure and innocent and above suspicion even after decades of interference and covert violence and assassinations perpetrated everywhere else.

[IamFortunesFool]

118. Amen!

Anybody who thinks there aren't shadowed hands behind the scenes is, at this point, either willfully ignorant or simply uneducated to the facts of history.

[SunSeeker]

120. What American president ordered journalists killed?

Please enlighten us "willfuly ignorant" about "the facts of history."

[SunSeeker]

119. You implied it, by citing that to challenge my statement about our leaders.

There may be "rogue elements," but our presidents do not order journalists murdered. They are not like Putin. At least not up until now.

[LiberalLovinLug]

123. For one, you have no idea if any president has NOT done this

That is what you see through you red, white, and blue glasses.
In fact under Bush the press were bombed in Iraq, Al Jazeera, but also AP and Reuters headquarters. 15 were killed. There was the "collateral murder" video where a cameraman was brutally murdered.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2005/oct/24/iraq.internationalnews

And I think Heir Trump is giddy with the idea already.
You don't think he has it in him?

It is even possible that Obama may have been convinced by others that for "national security" reasons MH needed to be silenced before he blew the lid off. But no, I don't believe, can't believe, that Obama ordered anything like that. But what is to stop extremist right wing elements in the MIC and the CIA left over from the Bush/Cheney era from carrying this out? Even Obama's appointments in those areas were not pacifists. Many had Republican loyalties and conservative 'values'.

[SunSeeker]

124. OFFS

[LiberalLovinLug]

125. Have a nice sleep

[SunSeeker]

129. I will, since I do not entertain baseless conspiracy theories. nt

[bettyellen]

15. Gotta love how he steals a bit from Greenwald and Assange now and again...

[JHan]

28. Yes, it's from their script.

[Docreed2003]

75. Exactly...he didn't come up with these talking points on his own!

[joshcryer]

131. And they nod in lock step with his whataboutism.

[riversedge]

16. Trump did not dispute the claim that Putin is a killer.

[mobeau69]

20. No, but he did try to justify it.

Clearly treason.

[retrowire]

17. wooooooooooooow

Hey Trump we may not be innocent but we're certainly better.

Or at least, we should always try to be.

Maybe even try to be a little bit.... greater?

Oh I'm sorry, you're doing this all for the fascist right, my bad. I almost followed one of those alternative facts again.

[benld74]

18. Admitting on National TV

The USA kills people?

Effin idiot the asshole is!

WHAT has Putin have on this guy?
And the GOP as well for NOT doing
Nothing!!!

[Cryptoad]

19. tick, tick, tick,,,

Its getting harder and harder for the GOP to ride this Jackass!

[mobeau69]

22. Tomorrow should be interesting tube viewing.

And I ain't talking Super Bowl either.

[Watalapan]

59. Ratings

Trump will say his ratings is better then super bowl thank god I am Canadian

[jalan48]

25. If I didn't know any better I'd think Trump's trying to get kicked out of office.

[mobeau69]

27. I think he's insane and very stupid.

I guess that's better than being insane and smart.

[Fast Walker 52]

97. I agree, he's amazingly dumb and has no idea how dumb he is, which is where the

insanity comes in, because he thinks he's brilliant. He was elected president after all!

[C Moon]

58. It does sound that way, doesn't it?

[mobeau69]

30. The President of The United Sates doesn't say shit like that.

Completely unfit. I'm surprised he didn't give Brillo some classified examples. My Gawd! This is going to be aired on national tv tomorrow.

[TexasBushwhacker]

38. I think our imprisonment or killing of American citizens

without due process is pretty rare compared to Putin and Russia. We don't put radioactive isotopes in people's drinks or food.

[BeyondGeography]

40. Putin has political opponents and journalists assassinated

He's not correct. Maybe envious, but not correct.

[steve2470]

45. it's true the CIA has done some underhanded stuff in our history in OTHER countries

However, Putin is far worse. For all the reasons mentioned in this thread. You can still oppose the President and the government in this country and not end up dead.

[Kingofalldems]

49. What the hell are you talking about?

How is he correct?

[raccoon]

87. Yeah, he is correct. Read some of William Blum's writings.

And your post is totally correct too.

[qanda]

29. Did this chick on CNN call it a throwaway line?

David Gergen was like the president is not allowed a throwaway line! This is unbelievable.

[mobeau69]

31. Yeah, she's not the sharpest tool in the shed.

[Eliot Rosewater]

33. We know that the right doesnt care about hypocrisy, every single

position they take, every word they utter, is hypocritical

they hate America, but love white America...etc

[kacekwl]

34. This should be the question asked of EVERY republican by the

clowns on the Sunday shows , What if Obama had said this . The response will tell you exactly who they are.

[steve2470]

44. excellent idea! nt

[mobeau69]

35. Nikki pissed off Vlad so Vlad called his boy donnie

and mentioned the golden shower vids.

[underpants]

36. "We're not going to sit here and listen to you BAD MOUTH the United States of America"

[Orrex]

37. Did they cut away before Trump actually fellated Putin on camera?

[KittyWampus]

64. they're saving the money shot for half time

[Orrex]

72. That was a magnificent answer.

[JawJaw]

88. Hey, Putin!

Would it be too much to ask for you to hack into the TV network feeds during the half-time break and insert some Piss-gate footage highlights?

That would add a whole new dimension to the super 'bowl'!

[steve2470]

41. If Obama had said this, they would already be filing impeachment motions and setting up hearings

With this asshole, they will be silent or attempt to justify it. KellyAnne Conway aka Ms. Goebbels2017 would say he was joking or try to justify it or just deflect.

Treasonous asshole.

[mobeau69]

42. Hell, the Access Hollywood video would've been the end of Obama

and any other candidate in history for that matter.

[steve2470]

43. so true! nt

[ck4829]

100. Impeachment? They'd declare civil war.

[tanyev]

47. I guess it's evening in America.

[truebluegreen]

48. Stop this. Now.

Of course Putin is a killer. Of course Trump is a pathological liar. Of course O'Reilly is an opportunistic sociopath. I get it.

But, sorry, do you think that those facts change the fact that our hands are not clean? That we are not, in fact, pure? Altruistic? Always motivated by the greater good for everyone? Puhleese.

[Ligyron]

50. We don't need our Commander In Chief saying this on camera

for the whole world to see to be preserved for all eternity.

[truebluegreen]

55. What we need is our Commander-in-Chief

not doing anything that would lead to such statements, on camera or any-effing-where. Any Commander-in-Chief. Even one we like.

[mobeau69]

53. 16:14 We don't do this, truebluegreen.

[truebluegreen]

56. Let me guess:

Is your position that "we are not as bad as Putin"?

is that good enough for you?

[mobeau69]

63. What's yours?

[truebluegreen]

66. It's clear, isn't it.

Don't excuse bad behavior even when our guys do it.

What's yours?

[ancianita]

71. Totally agree. Any president who tells an inconvenient truth confronts our traditional

narrative of ourselves. Yes, the con deflects blame onto America at large for actions they have not been fully aware of.

Over decades we've been told by Chomsky and others, and now that we are more aware, we mustn't desperately cling to pretty lies over ugly truths.
Even when we hate this messenger.

Jeremy Scahill's Dirty Wars has provided enough recent numbers to back up Trump's claim. Even if this con Trump doesn't read.

I don't validate or respect DT in any way, but whatever our excuses, the truth is the truth about us. And the Russians likely love their children, too.

[anneboleyn]

121. Pay Sting for the line you stole, and DT saying this is VERY DESTRUCTIVE. Not remotely similar

to well-reasoned academic arguments from Chomsky or political figures who have the credibility and know the time and place to make such critical remarks.

These remarks, made in a internationally televised interview with an obsequious "journalist" b/c Trump is PERSONALLY IRRITATED and defensive of Putin (for whatever fucked up reasons), and said in an angry, cocky, dickish manner, are in no way constructive. Not at all. No.

[ancianita]

132. Tell me, my friend, I am lying:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_(song)

" ...round the time "Russians" was released, when Mikhail Gorbachev became General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union in March 1985, and in 1989 Gorbachev and Reagan's successor, George H. W. Bush, declared the Cold War over at the Malta Summit,[2] with the Soviet Union dissolving two years later.

In his 2010 interview with World Entertainment News Network, Sting explained that the song was inspired by watching Soviet TV via inventor Ken Schaffer's satellite receiver at Columbia University...

"I had a friend at university who invented a way to steal the satellite signal from Russian TV. We'd have a few beers and climb this tiny staircase to watch Russian television... At that time of night we'd only get children's Russian television, like their 'Sesame Street'. I was impressed with the care and attention they gave to their children's programmes. I regret our current enemies haven't got the same ethics..."

Sting, as a teacher like me, expects no pay because we are both Open Source.

[Grimelle]

51. Amercian exceptionalism?

Yeah!F*ck that.
It's now dead.

[Freethinker65]

52. Fucking feckless GOP

[RKP5637]

54. Madman Trump! n/t

[heather blossom]

57. Can't believe it

He needs to be taken to the nearest mental hospital and locked up for the good of the country. He is deranged, there is no hiding it now. If the Republicans shrug this off they all need to be removed from office. I hope they lose a generation of voters.

[LongTomH]

60. AAARRRGGHHH!!!!!

[NastyRiffraff]

61. Let's see what the Sunday morning bobbleheads have to say

Every. single. Republican. should be put on the spot, forcing them to condemn this...or not. Wait for them all to squirm, stammer, (try to) change the subject, blame Obama and/or the Democrats. They need to be pinned to the wall. This wasn't just saying he wants to get along with Russia (a "good thing&quot it's defending a man he knows is a murderer. (But we kill too!)

Just when we thought it couldn't get worse, or more dangerous...

[neverforget]

62. Why does he hate America?

[yardwork]

65. So now we have this precedent.

[oberliner]

67. Republicans need to call him out on this stuff

Do any of them have any principles at all?

[0rganism]

68. ooh, so he's the Blame America First president

the hypocrisy, it burns

[orangecrush]

69. Treasonous swine

Makes me

[elmac]

70. I thought tRump had this huge, bigly plan to defeat Daesh

all by himself so who needs russia?

[6000eliot]

74. This doesn't sound AT ALL like Putin's propaganda.

[Botany]

76. Trump was put in power by Russia

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/2017/01/23/russians-suspected-hacking-local-dems/96965824/

[Frogg]

77. Anyone wondering why O'Reilly asked this question? He knew he would not answer...

What is going on in repug world?

[JawJaw]

89. Perhaps they're FINALLY realising that this idiot will bring down the whole scam? n/t

[oberliner]

78. He sounds like Glenn Greenwald

With a touch of Jill Stein.

[OKNancy]

86. OMG - I was scrolling down to write the very same thing

I know the US isn't perfect, but if there is a balance, we have done a lot of good things too.
Greenwald has always been an "America hater"

[Princess Turandot]

79. What are the chances that Putin himself hasn't personally murdered someone?

IIRC he ran the KGB directorate for East Germany: did they let anyone rise to such a position who hadn't, in mob-speak, 'made their bones'?

[TeamPooka]

80. Can you imagine what would happen if Obama had ever said that?

[Zambero]

81. And Hannity is outraged, correct???

[oberliner]

82. He's tweeting about how much he likes Elton John

For some reason.

[Zambero]

103. Elton is a favorite of Steve Bannon

"Burn Down the Mission" in particular.

[Behind the Aegis]

83. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

It does to me.

You better believe it!

[Goonch]

84. JUST HORSIN' AROUND

[McCamy Taylor]

85. Uh oh! Bandit Kings are NEVER disloyal. Trump just lost part of the base.

[nikibatts]

90. Another reason why Sessions should be stopped. He would rubber stamp everything

Trump wants to do.

[Cha]

92. So putin killing dissidents is ok because we're not innocent?

tell us more putin pimp

[wishstar]

93. Trump wants to intimidate/silence journalists, politicians,protestors,even intelligence officers

who don't go along 100% with him. He is promoting fear of retaliation by normalizing Putin. Putin turns vindictive against his close associates and allies if he thinks they have secretly betrayed him, trying to solidify 100% obedience which certainly has a chilling effect on any political opponents and media in Russia.

Trump normalizing killing political or governmental officials for retaliation or inferring we do that too is unacceptable and appalling for an American President. But he made incarceration normal with the "Lock her up'' threats against Hillary.

Have to wonder if American journalists and politicians will also be intimidated into appeasement, making excuses and justifications or even silence rather than standing up against Trump.

[Buckeyeblue]

98. But where is the follow up

When he says the U.S. is not so innocent (or whatever his exact words were), I'm more interested in what comes next. Give us some examples, dumb dumb.

[migsan]

110. Ruby Ridge

And Waco, possible those two incidents could of been handled differently. Just saying.

[ck4829]

99. Wow...

[logosoco]

101. So basically he is normalizing killing and murder.

And here i have been feeling shame for some of the things our country has done and now we have a leader that makes it sound like "well sure, that is what countries do,what are you going to do about it?"
And here we sit in a country where a lot of people think carrying a gun at all times is a practical thing.

I don't like where this is headed. (AND IT HAS ONLY BEEN TWO WEEKS!!!)

[dalton99a]

107. Exactly.

[LeftishBrit]

102. Well, it won't be innocent under him anyway

No country is innocent; but does that mean Putin is a role model? We should all seek to improve our countries, not go down to the lowest common denominator.

Can you imagine what would have happened if Carter or someone made equivalent excuses for Brezhev???

[Grimelle]

104. To be fair to Trump

he did kill a Navy Seal.
Little minds think alike.

[Solly Mack]

106. Sounds like a threat and an excuse for his forthcoming actions.

[treestar]

108. Holy crap!

He is starting to sound like those RT defenders we had here.

[azmom]

111. I'm going with the Falcons.

The patriots suck.

[justgamma]

115. Breitbart, Bannon, conspiricy theories.

He could be talking about Clinton. Every right winger knows that there are piles of bodies wherever the Clinton's go. You have to have heard them. They just know it.

I don't believe he was talking about drones.

[Beartracks]

117. If he equates us to Russia, he can justify ruling like Putin.

What a long con: the GOP has convinced a large number of Americans that "being American" and defending "American values" means adopting the policies, values, and politics of Russia.

==============

[JHan]

127. bingo! +++++++++

[still_one]

128. well since the country elected a paranoid, psychopthic, racist, sexist, president I

perhaps..................................

[ginnyinWI]

130. Um, Mr. President:

You can talk to or have a diplomatic relationship with Putin and still not condone his every action!