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riversedge

(70,192 posts)
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 09:45 PM Feb 2017

Trump says Pence will lead investigation into non-existent voter fraud

Source: Think Progress



Trump says Pence will lead investigation into non-existent voter fraud
The president still won’t back down from his lies about illegal voting.
CREDIT: Screenshot via Fox News

In a pre-Super Bowl interview that aired on Sunday, President Donald Trump told Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly that he would establish a commission led by Vice President Mike Pence to investigate allegations of widespread voter fraud.

“We’re going to look at it very, very carefully,” said Trump.

There is, of course, no widespread voter fraud, and multiple independent observers have debunked Trump’s claims to the contrary. But the president has spent weeks repeating the false claim that undocumented immigrants cast three to five million votes against him — a lie that seems intended to explain away his loss of the popular vote by more than two million ballots cast.

In response to questioning about the “voter fraud” lie, White House press secretary Sean Spicer indicated in late January that the Trump administration would pursue an investigation into it. Not long after, Pence privately told Republican members of Congress that there would be “a full evaluation of voting rolls in this country.” Trump seemed poised to sign an executive order mandating some kind of inquiry.
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Earlier Sunday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said that he didn’t think federal funds should be spent on a voter fraud investigation................

Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/trump-pence-commission-fictitious-voter-fraud-512a16946cd7#.1ew2p7ynj

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Trump says Pence will lead investigation into non-existent voter fraud (Original Post) riversedge Feb 2017 OP
Good grief, doesn't Pence have enough to do? femmocrat Feb 2017 #1
He's got more time since Trump assigned a bunch of that to Bannon. (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2017 #17
In Trump's interview with Fox he switched DURHAM D Feb 2017 #2
Voter fraud is a non-problem. The problem is ELECTION fraud. mpcamb Feb 2017 #13
Voter fraud is a myth made up to justify voter suppression, like Interstate Crosscheck and rigid ID Amaryllis Feb 2017 #18
Pence must find over 5 million cheat votes for Hillary, or he's fired. nt NCjack Feb 2017 #3
Cluster Fuck,,,,, Cryptoad Feb 2017 #4
He ought to use those guys in Hawaii that were working on that birther case. mobeau69 Feb 2017 #5
Pence knows how to send it nowhere. Besides, Ryan is not allocating money for it. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #6
It was cigarette-smoking man. mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2017 #7
Time to overwhelm the White House phone system with calls and cause it to meltdown. Grammy23 Feb 2017 #8
So really it's "Pence will lead push for 50 state voter ID." briv1016 Feb 2017 #9
I can believe that Pence will lead it..right to where he is told to lead it by cstanleytech Feb 2017 #10
From what I have learned about Pence's murielm99 Feb 2017 #20
Trump could fund it himself if he wanted but that aside I still believe that the reason the cstanleytech Feb 2017 #21
Howard Stern says torius Feb 2017 #11
If Trump said it was so we know what that means, don't we? Ford_Prefect Feb 2017 #12
Jump on the bandwagon and lead this Valhallakey Feb 2017 #14
Let's Include Ccarmona Feb 2017 #16
Exactly Valhallakey Feb 2017 #19
There isnt to much they can do if the Repugnants vote not to spend Congressional money on it cstanleytech Feb 2017 #22
Have you ever noticed how a Rat F***k always says turbinetree Feb 2017 #15
And how are they going to pay for it? paleotn Feb 2017 #23
If Pence "leads" anything, it will become an unauthorized procurement. BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #24
Keep him busy idahoblue Feb 2017 #25
Seriously. That's what should be done. DetlefK Feb 2017 #27
The time to run a parallel effort to address any fraud that you think is occurring is now HoneyBadger Feb 2017 #26
And who will be paying for this dog and pony show? procon Feb 2017 #28

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
1. Good grief, doesn't Pence have enough to do?
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 09:48 PM
Feb 2017

Being in charge of both domestic and foreign policy?*

*(reference to Kasich's invite to be VP)

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
2. In Trump's interview with Fox he switched
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 09:49 PM
Feb 2017

to voter registration duplicates. O'Liley did not ask about his own people/children with dual registration.

Just as Trump does not know the difference between Green Cards and visas, he does not know the difference between dual voting and dual registration.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
18. Voter fraud is a myth made up to justify voter suppression, like Interstate Crosscheck and rigid ID
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 12:37 AM
Feb 2017

laws. The Fox crowd totally believes it. Millions of votes suppressed, not millions voting twice.
Why is it so hard to get Dems to take election fraud seriously?

THis is cause for concern: "Pence privately told Republican members of Congress that there would be “a full evaluation of voting rolls in this country." They will no doubt have Kurt Kobach run Crosscheck, which supposedly "evaluates voter rolls." Oregon decided not to use it because it gave unreliable results but it's a great tool to purge voters and selectively suppress votes.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
4. Cluster Fuck,,,,,
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 09:53 PM
Feb 2017

he doesn't even have subpoena power,,,,,, more tax money put into those off shore accounts, i guess!

mobeau69

(11,141 posts)
5. He ought to use those guys in Hawaii that were working on that birther case.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 09:55 PM
Feb 2017

drumpf said we wouldn't believe what they found.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,405 posts)
7. It was cigarette-smoking man.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 10:09 PM
Feb 2017

He was hiding in a storm water drain under the grassy knoll. Oswald was a patsy.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
8. Time to overwhelm the White House phone system with calls and cause it to meltdown.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 10:12 PM
Feb 2017

Don't you dare spend a dime on your phony "investigation". This charade must be stopped. Where does he intend to get the funds to do this stunt? Torches and pitchforks, people!

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
9. So really it's "Pence will lead push for 50 state voter ID."
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 10:34 PM
Feb 2017

That's where all of this is leading. It's the core of their 18' and 20' campaign.

(Along with ending all early voting, "modernising" (paperless) voting, "authorized" poll watchers and of course expanding voter purges.)

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
10. I can believe that Pence will lead it..right to where he is told to lead it by
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 10:40 PM
Feb 2017

the leadership in the Republican party which is probably going to be to a dead end as I suspect they are the ones with something to hide, either voting fraud or election fraud or both but nonetheless I suspect that is why they dont want any investigation.

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
20. From what I have learned about Pence's
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 03:56 AM
Feb 2017

"leadership" in Indiana, and from his performances on the talk shows, I don't think he is competent to lead much of anything. And Congress does not have to fund this mess. Without funds, it won't happen.

If Pence does end up as our President, we still have to remain vigilant and resist. He is awful.

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
21. Trump could fund it himself if he wanted but that aside I still believe that the reason the
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 04:42 AM
Feb 2017

Republicans in Congress dont really want an investigation is that they have something to hide.
After all they are willing to fund the pointless and therefore wasteful wall with billions of taxpayer money but not a little money to investigate voter fraud which they have pushed as happening and therefore why there needs to be voter ID laws? Thats another reason why I think they are the ones with something to hide.

torius

(1,652 posts)
11. Howard Stern says
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 10:45 PM
Feb 2017

what Trump means is that he wishes Hilary were President and hopes they find that she really won. Makes sense.

 

Valhallakey

(70 posts)
14. Jump on the bandwagon and lead this
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 11:33 PM
Feb 2017

Ranking Democrats should jump in board and demand that it include issues such as how the votes are counted (I don't trust electronic voting machines), how polling places are allocated, how we are ensuring that everyone eligible to vote has free and easy access to an id in states where that will end up being a requirement. They are not going to find much voter fraud, but these other areas are ripe for picking as there are certainly issues there.

 

Valhallakey

(70 posts)
19. Exactly
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 01:21 AM
Feb 2017

I doubt they will find much if any voter fraud, on the other hand we will probably find a lot of other things that are interfering with free and fair elections. The Democrats should jump right in the middle, encourage cooperation if we look at the entire voting process.

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
22. There isnt to much they can do if the Repugnants vote not to spend Congressional money on it
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 05:08 AM
Feb 2017

and without money the odds of an investigation are slim.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
15. Have you ever noticed how a Rat F***k always says
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 11:45 PM
Feb 2017

like :

“We’re going to look at it very, very carefully,” said Trump.


very very

This is called :

Palilalia:

pali·la·lia
ˌpaləˈlālēə/
nounMEDICINE
noun: palilalia
a speech disorder characterized by involuntary repetition of words, phrases, or sentences.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palilalia


DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
27. Seriously. That's what should be done.
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 11:10 AM
Feb 2017

Keep his mind occupied with trivial bullshit and keep him from doing actual politics.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
26. The time to run a parallel effort to address any fraud that you think is occurring is now
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 11:09 AM
Feb 2017

You may disagree with Trump's allegations, I do. But his timing is spot on. Waiting 3 years to complain serves no one.

procon

(15,805 posts)
28. And who will be paying for this dog and pony show?
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 11:36 AM
Feb 2017

You? Me? Where are the offset to pay for this scam so the American taxpayers don't have to pay the tab to fluff up Trump's fragile ego?

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