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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:16 AM Feb 2017

Trump Criticizes Judges Deciding On His Order: 'Courts Seem To Be So Political'

Source: Talking Points Memo



By MATT SHUHAM Published FEBRUARY 8, 2017, 9:56 AM EDT

President Donald Trump said Wednesday that a federal appeals court would earn “respect” if it allowed for the immediate enforcement of his immigration executive order.

-snip-

Later, Trump addressed the three judges on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals hearing the case, though the President refrained from criticizing them directly.

“I listened to a panel of judges and I'll comment on that — I will not comment on the statements made by certainly one judge, but I have to be honest that if these judges wanted to, in my opinion, help the court in terms of respect for the court, they'd do what they should be doing,” he said. Later, he returned to the court, seemingly trying to restrain himself.

"And I don't ever want to call a court biased so I won't call it biased, and we haven't had a decision yet. But courts seem to be so political and it would be so great for our justice system if they would be able to read a statement and do what's right,” he said. “And that has to do with the security of our country, which is so important. Right now we are at risk because of what happened.”

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-says-court-would-earn-respect-by-supporting-his-authority

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Trump Criticizes Judges Deciding On His Order: 'Courts Seem To Be So Political' (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2017 OP
To be fair, they can be. tenorly Feb 2017 #1
Drumph is so stupid mindem Feb 2017 #2
LOL! "Drumph is so stupid, he's an insult to stupid." ElementaryPenguin Feb 2017 #13
Keep blabbing, you moron. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2017 #3
tRump has racistly called judges biased, notably a US-born judge of Mexican heritage Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #4
I'm not saying they're biased....but....they're biased underpants Feb 2017 #6
The ironic thing is that the judge did Trump exboyfil Feb 2017 #27
Respect? Act like an adult for crying out loud underpants Feb 2017 #5
at this point we'd accept a well-mannered child. rurallib Feb 2017 #22
Note that he is pulling that campaign smear shit again packman Feb 2017 #7
Thanks for posting this report. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #8
This simpleton jerk wad is just feeding red meat to his nutty right wing base. Trust Buster Feb 2017 #9
Maybe Trump Will Declare The Establishment of a People's Courts That Operates... TomCADem Feb 2017 #10
um. Trump has been told to behave. Wonder how long this will last!! riversedge Feb 2017 #11
LOL ananda Feb 2017 #12
I can't help but wonder if Trump is vicariously talking down to his sister, no_hypocrisy Feb 2017 #14
Justice Trump Berry DeminPennswoods Feb 2017 #17
It's Alzheimer's onset bucolic_frolic Feb 2017 #15
Or, it could be the syphilis kicking in. n/t cloudbase Feb 2017 #21
Somebody tackle this man!!!! TranssexualKaren Feb 2017 #16
Usually I want tRump to shut up- but in this case, keep talking Donald, keep talking Still In Wisconsin Feb 2017 #18
We are fast approaching a Constitutional crisis. djg21 Feb 2017 #19
So-called judges are going to be so pissed at so-called president dalton99a Feb 2017 #25
Translation: "Do what I want and I will respect you." DetlefK Feb 2017 #20
Sure, courts can be political. matt819 Feb 2017 #23
I listened to the live feed this morning (MSNBC) and... turbo_satan Feb 2017 #24
What happened?? HopeAgain Feb 2017 #26
He keeps saying that word C_U_L8R Feb 2017 #28
"A bad high school student would understand this" Zorro Feb 2017 #29
L.I.A.R. lark Feb 2017 #30

mindem

(1,580 posts)
2. Drumph is so stupid
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:20 AM
Feb 2017

he's an insult to stupid. Our poor country is in real trouble right now and it is not due to terrorists, it's due to the GOP.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
4. tRump has racistly called judges biased, notably a US-born judge of Mexican heritage
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:21 AM
Feb 2017

The judge who was deciding one of the high profile cases against him, perhaps the tRump un-University case.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
27. The ironic thing is that the judge did Trump
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 12:02 PM
Feb 2017

a solid by urging him to settle. I think he did it for the good of the country hoping that Trump might actually settle down and take his job seriously.

In hindsight I wish the judge had baited him to continue defending the lawsuit.

underpants

(182,736 posts)
5. Respect? Act like an adult for crying out loud
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:21 AM
Feb 2017

We don't even expect "Presidential" at this point just act like a damned adult.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
7. Note that he is pulling that campaign smear shit again
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:24 AM
Feb 2017

""And I don't ever want to call a court biased so I won't call it biased" - but you just did you asswipe. Remember those gems when he was running.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
8. Thanks for posting this report.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:24 AM
Feb 2017

What's NOT being discussed by any of the media I've seen is the fact that Trumpy's EO is a violation of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. That law forbids the denial of entry into the US of immigrants based upon the country of origin.

It's not as emotionally evocative a violation as the religion-based prohibition, but it's just as solidly based in law. And it's not discussed anywhere. It's certainly a fall-back position to take if the current legal arguments against Trumpy's ban turn weak.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
9. This simpleton jerk wad is just feeding red meat to his nutty right wing base.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:26 AM
Feb 2017

From my observations, that encompasses his whole governing philosophy.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
10. Maybe Trump Will Declare The Establishment of a People's Courts That Operates...
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:26 AM
Feb 2017

...outside of the framework of the Constitution, and Republican members of Congress can set this up by taking review of Trump's executive orders outside of the jurisdiction of federal courts.

DeminPennswoods

(15,273 posts)
17. Justice Trump Berry
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:34 AM
Feb 2017

must be cringing right about now. I'm surprised she hasn't picked up the phone to give her brother a civics lesson. Then again, outside of his immediate wives and children, I have seen no evidence of ANY other Trump family member defending, talking or even acknowledging they are related.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
15. It's Alzheimer's onset
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:30 AM
Feb 2017

Twirling the phrases in the mind, struggling to make sense, to not personalize

Wonder how it's different for terminal narcissism cases? The thoughts are vague,
the focus on self remains.

Sounding like an old wine-o eating a diet totally comprised of doughnuts is a sorry
spectacle

Notice I never mentioned anyone's name

I don't have to

TranssexualKaren

(364 posts)
16. Somebody tackle this man!!!!
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:33 AM
Feb 2017

Doesn't he realize that the dumbest thing you can do when hoping for a favorable judgement in court is to openly insult the judge!!!

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
18. Usually I want tRump to shut up- but in this case, keep talking Donald, keep talking
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:37 AM
Feb 2017

Judges just LOVE to be scolded while they are deciding your case!

 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
19. We are fast approaching a Constitutional crisis.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:38 AM
Feb 2017

As SCROTUS continues to impugn the integrity and impartiality of the judicial branch.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
23. Sure, courts can be political.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:46 AM
Feb 2017

But they are a more or less equal part of the triad of executive, judicial, and legislative.

And, unless every Republican judge loses his/her fucking mind, much of Der Drumpfenfuhrer's "policy" positions will be reversed once they hit the courts. On top of that, you have to assume that his WH has the capacity to develop policies and programs that have any sort of logical and rational perspective.

Look at the repeal of Obamacare. They've had more than five years and have come up with nothing. Nothing. Five Years. Then there's the Muslim ban. Not quite working out as planned. And the DOJ lawyers are coming across as utter boobs.

Also, while some of the law enforcement officials he spoke to are white supremacists in uniform (Constitution Sheriffs and such), many - most? - law enforcement officials are rational and realize how the WH policies will destroy their ability to police their communities. (And, yes, I realize that there has been quite a lot of police brutality over the past several years - sanctioned murders it seems. My comment assumes that these psychopaths are in the minority. Maybe I'm wrong, but you have to start somewhere. Otherwise, it's all chaos all the time.)

Yes, DeVos is a disaster, but there will be pushback.

Also, I have little doubt that there will be turnover in the cabinet and in the WH within the first year.

turbo_satan

(372 posts)
24. I listened to the live feed this morning (MSNBC) and...
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:49 AM
Feb 2017

...it was Trump at perhaps his most demented. He brought up the dishonest polls. He said that nobody understands the law better than him. He talked about how great his mind is and how smart he is -- maybe smarter than anyone.

My father-in-law is 89 and has full-blown dementia. The similarities between his and Trump's paranoia and ceaseless self-aggrandizement are shocking. I'm not a (medical) doctor so there's nothing unethical about me making a diagnosis without having the patient in front of me. I'll only offer that there's something very wrong with Trump and it's not likely to get better.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
26. What happened??
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 11:56 AM
Feb 2017

These open ended statements designed to allude to something, that something being anything his followers want to insert into the blank, is classic doublespeak propaganda.

Personally I think he was referring to the horrific Bowling Green massacre...

lark

(23,083 posts)
30. L.I.A.R.
Wed Feb 8, 2017, 02:25 PM
Feb 2017

Yes, part of the sentence is the truth. courts can be political - that's how we got Citizens United and the states didn't have to expand Medicaid. However, other people do have their own ideas. The rant that this is about security is where he's a total liar. If it was about security, Saudi Arabia and Egypt would be included. Those countries have caused us harm through terrorism, the ones named have not. It's about his hate of brown people, except those that send him $$. He has properties in Saudi ARabia and Egypt, that's why they weren't included although they do export terrorism. That proves this order is a lie. He also proved he didn't care about terrorism when he ended the dept. that investigated terrorism of the white variety. He doesn't care about how many people white people kill, they aren't Islamic. Besides the white people that would commit terrorism are his folks to begin with, so again, let them rape and kill per him.

Vile, disgusting, thing is going to destroy the world and us with it.

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