GOP senator: House Republicans' ObamaCare replacement plan a 'horrible idea'

[Jose Garcia]

Source: The Hill

Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) is criticizing the House GOP's proposal to replace the Affordable Care Act, labeling it as “a horrible idea.”

“If we load down the repeal discussion with what comes next, I think it’s going to make it a lot harder to get either one of them done,” Lee said during a briefing, as reported by Roll Call on Thursday.

“We need to repeal it first before deciding what comes next. I think there is a lot of agreement among Republicans in Congress with regard to the repeal bill. There is a lot less agreement on what comes next,” the lawmaker added.

House Republicans have mentioned several possible ObamaCare replacement policies to include in their repeal legislation.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/318665-gop-senator-house-gops-obamacare-replacement-plan-a-horrible-idea

[Blue Idaho]

1. What?

“If we load down the repeal discussion with what comes next, I think it’s going to make it a lot harder to get either one of them done..."

Yeah - if republicans have to tell America what comes after the ACA people will burn Washington DC to the ground. Better they fuck everyone over when nobody's looking.

[Ray Bruns]

14. That is exactly the idea:

There has never been a replacement plan because the ACA was the plan put forth by the Heritage Foundation as an alternative to Bill Clinton's single payer.

The republicans don't want a replacement plan. period. It's always "I have mine, screw you." with these guys.

[adigal]

19. I see it a little differently. I think they know that to not replace this is political suicide

Unless they are VERY stupid. What they want is to repeal, get Americans desperate, then pressure the Dems, who actually have ideas and write laws, to help them (read: do it for them) and then take the credit for it.

Dems need to stand firm if they repeal this. You broke it, you own it. We will be guaranteed to take the House back in 2018 if they break this. Sadly, many Americans will lose insurance, but many of them voted for Trump, so "Oh, well." My heart breaks for the ones who didn't.

[Blue Idaho]

20. They know what Dems think...

We have two very well considered and detailed plans for expanding health care - the ACA and a single payer system. If they expect us Dems to ride to their rescue, we should just keep repeating those two options. America knows who to blame for the current train wreck in DC -Donald Fucking Trump.

[homegirl]

34. Part of the repeal then replace

should be suspending the health insurance, we pay for, of the members of Congress until a new plan is in place.

[riversedge]

17. In other words, he wants to just repeal it (let folks dangle with NOTHING0--then they might

get around to some kind of replacement. I have read lots of proposals that include low premiums but they offer little--it is the return of 'junk' insurance!! damn

[Blue Idaho]

21. They just want to turn back the clock.

Let people go to emergency rooms for medical care - and bankrupt community hospitals in the bargan

[Cosmocat]

2. Fucking morons

always the POLITICS ... Which this country just accepts from them.

REPEAL because that is the insane position they have taken politically, not a rational analysis of the program.

If it is THAT fucking bad, there should be ANYTHING better to point to replace it with.

Meanwhile, there are 10s of millions of americans who rely on it.

Not the first fucking concern for them.

[Ligyron]

3. If they vote to repeal it without a simultaneous replacement there will never be one.

back to feudal times we go.

[Betty]

4. even most of their moronic supporters will turn on them

if they do that.

[titaniumsalute]

5. I wish you had to declare a political party when you signed up for the ACA

I know that is rhetorical. But it would be funny to see 60% say they are Republicans or something like that.

[world wide wally]

6. We just better ALL turn out for the midterms and beyond

Bring people down to register to vote right NOW!

[El Mimbreno]

7. Repeal and forget it

more from the article:

Those policies are likely to focus on tax credits for those who choose to buy health insurance on the individual market, funding of high-risk pools, an expansion of health savings accounts and other features.

I've already heard a republican tax credit plan; an annual tax credit, not the current advance credit. Just picture a low-to-moderate income family paying $600, $800, or more a month, and waiting for tax time to get reimbursed. Utilities, mortgage, car payment - they can wait until then, right?
HSAs only work for those who have enough to sock away a big chunk. Useless to most of us.

More likely, once the ACA is repealed, replacement will go to the back burner which will then get turned off.

[secondwind]

11. Welcome to DU!

[procon]

8. They're all dreaming about an Ayn Rand utopia with no government beyond

a national defense force. They'd step over dead bodies in the street while complaining about the inconvenience. Yet they consider themselves world class philanthropists for tossing a few pitiful crumbs to the serfs and generous to a fault for not stripping away all their rights. Republicans will gladly kill off Obamacare in one vote, and not one of them will suffer a single twinge of conscience even if millions of Americans suffer the consequences. As long as they get to keep theirs, and can keep getting richer, everyone else can just drop dead and save them the effort of killing us all slowly.

[Guilded Lilly]

9. Tell you what, Pal...as a test mode all Congressional Republican...

must totally nullify their own healthcare for themselves and their family. Repeal it for the year.
Denied the "perk" that your official part time government work gives you. With no replacement available.

Then get back to us.

[Bengus81]

26. Works for me,most of those are in their late 60's and 70's.............

Hell,lets dump Medicare too and let Turtle go out and buy health insurance on the open market at his age--74.

[BeyondGeography]

10. Simply repeal and people either lose insurance or pay 25 percent more for it

Genius.

[wolfie001]

12. Nothing comes next

That's what this stupid redneck means.

[safeinOhio]

13. Access for every one....

with 6 figure income.

[riversedge]

18. It is access--but unreachable.

[dembotoz]

29. I have access to by a hand made sports car...Bank will laugh

But I have access

[DK504]

15. Hmm...

Could the GOP's have been using the ACA as a prop to make people believe it's baaaddddd? Could they have possibly have done such a thing?

I swear these fools couldn't find their asses with Goggle Maps.

[Hortensis]

16. "If we load down the repeal discussion with what comes next"

What a creepy little scoundrel. Lee never disappoints.

[n2doc]

22. Maybe he thinks people can trade chickens for health care?

The GOP Health Care Plan:

Get Sick

Go Bankrupt

Die

[Marthe48]

23. how the hell do these people get elected?

how stupid are people who vote for someone holding the knife that'll cut their throats?

[hibbing]

24. Gerrymandering, 24/7 biased media, voter suppression, and the President was Obama

Saw a poll where a lot of people did not realize ACA and Obamacare were the same thing. They will cut it, and all those people losing insurance will somehow blame it on Obama or Democrats.

Peace

[Bengus81]

25. Oh oh...he tipped their hand on what they had planned all along...

Dump the ACA and then just never quite get around to any kind of replacement.

[Dustlawyer]

27. The smarter Republicans are worried and thats is why they are having a problem that is bogging them

down. They know that no amount of Koch money will get them re-elected if they take it away without a suitable replacement. Now they have to deal with idiots like this in their Party who are too stupid to read the writing on the wall.

Bernie doesn't think they will end up repealing the ACA for this reason. They saw the Women's march and the protests at the airports for the Muslim ban, they know repealing the ACA without a replacement will be 10 times worse for them.

[HopeAgain]

28. Lets jump out of the plane and then look for a parachute... nt

[Grins]

30. " We need to repeal it first..." Yes. Yes, you're right!

“We need to repeal it first..."

Yes. Yes, you're right. Repeal it now. All of it. And forget that replace or repair shit. Repeal it. Now. Just as you promised.

And then the idiots who voted for you and against their own best interests will finally and truly understand what they voted for when they elected Republicans to represent them. Let them truly feel - upfront and personal - the full impact of their votes on their miserable lives.

It is only when it gets personal to them that this shit will ever stop.

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." - H. L. Mencken

[paleotn]

31. Every so called replacement I've heard of

is nothing but tax credits or worse, deductions. So, unless you can plunk downt thousands and thousands of dollars up front in hope of getting a tax reduction up to a year later, you're screwed. No subsidies. No cost or insurance content control at all. Typical rethug bullshit.

[Judi Lynn]

32. Stupidity like his is not natural. He had to work at it.

[center]

Mike Lee, derp. [/center]

[keithbvadu2]

33. Trump Says Hell Have His Own Obamacare Replacement Plan Soon

Donald Trump Says He’ll Have His Own Obamacare ‘Replacement’ Plan Soon

01/11/2017 02:25 pm ET

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-obamacare-replacement-plan-soon_us_58766aa3e4b092a6cae46c6f

"At his first post-election press conference on Wednesday, president-elect Donald Trump said he will release his own plan to “repeal and replace” the Affordable Care Act shortly after taking office."

[cstanleytech]

35. Probably something along the lines of

"Do what I do folks, just dont pay the bill."

[keithbvadu2]

36. Trump's idea of 'negotiation'.

[usaf-vet]

37. IF is the key term

If the GOP were smart they would pass a resolution that said

1. From this point forward the term Obamacare will never be used again in any congressional speeches or legislation.

2. From this point forward we will work with the other side of the isle to fix the problems in the Affordable Care Act.

Obamacare would be history and the ACA would get fixed to insure that 20 million enrollees would not lose their healthcare.
With Fox news on board the Republicans could make it work.

Otherwise they are shall we say screwed. Their voters are catching on with the fact that they have been lied to. And they are not happy. And the resistance will continue to grow.