Sanders: Trump 'backtracking on every economic promise that he made'

[DonViejo]

Source: The Hill


BY REBECCA SAVRANSKY - 02/12/17 11:06 AM EST

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Sunday said President Trump has not been following through on the economic promises he made during the campaign.

"There's a whole lot of discussion about the racist, in my view, immigration policies of the Trump administration, which are based on anti-Muslim ideology, which are doing us enormous harm all over the world — something else is going on at the exact same moment," Sanders said on NBC's "Meet The Press."

"President Trump is backtracking on every economic promise that he made to the American people."

Sanders pointed to the president's campaign promises that he wouldn't cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.


Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/319134-sanders-trump-backtracking-on-every-economic-promise-that-he-made

[bravenak]

1. Duh

Never be 'delighted' to do anything with him unless it involves impeachment.

[Tom Rinaldo]

4. Did you find Sander's comments on Meet the Press unhelpful?

You wrote "Duh" about Trump's economic promises not being kept, but IMO that skips past the point that many voters believed in them, or at least were desperate enough for some change that they were willing try a Hail Mary pass voting for Trump on economic grounds, which contributed to us we losing too many Obama voters to him.

Democrats should be holding up a scorecard on those promises right now. That is where Trump and Republicans in general are most vulnerable to loosing enough support to put their control of Congress at risk in 2018.

[Locrian]

6. +1000000

Dems should be shouting this from the roof tops - as should the press. But no, they'd rather snicker and snide and put on SNL skits.

This is so frustrating that we have a golden opportunity to actually win over the people who were desperate to vote for trump. Bernie seems to be the only one that gets that they are now vulnerable and exposed.

[Doitnow]

21. I'll keep saying----Bernie Sanders is more of a Democrat than a lot of those with a "D" near their

names.

[elleng]

30. Yes

[elleng]

29. Yes.

[bravenak]

11. He had months to notice this. I knew this over a year ago.

Not impressed.

[Beartracks]

28. You really think he just now noticed?

[bravenak]

33. Yes. Recently he was 'delighted' to work with Trump

[Beartracks]

36. Oh, come on. He already knew that...

... the kind of Trump he'd be "delighted" to work with didn't exist.

If Trump campaigned on saving Social Security, given the plethora of Trump's other policy positions, inconsistencies, and lies, any liberal Senator claiming they'd be "delighted" to work with him on that issue already knows Trump will not be at all interested in pursuing that goal -- and so the Senator is setting up for a contrast later: "See? We would've helped him in this important endeavor, but he didn't care enough about the American people."

This highlights Trump's failure(s) in a slower story arc for the non-politically active and/or misinformed masses. DUers and most other Dems could smell Trump's insincerity and incompetence from a mile away, and so could Sanders.

That's been my take on it ever since his "delighted" comment.

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[Locrian]

35. then you must be REALLY unimpressed

with the rest of the democrats.....

[bravenak]

38. Nope

[bettyellen]

24. I thought characterizing DTs cabinet as "the same" was bullshit and distinctly unhelpful and hope he

Doesn't actually believe that. The false equivalency crap has got to end.

[elleng]

27. 'Democrats should be holding up a scorecard on those promises right now.

That is where Trump and Republicans in general are most vulnerable.'

[nycbos]

32. Sanders seems to be under the impression...

... "that if you just address the 'economic anxiety' of the working class white man' they would vote for 'a true progressive agenda."

Trump voters do not care that he has violated every "economic promise." Trump voters voted fort him because he made it okay to be openly racist in politics again.

[Tom Rinaldo]

47. Some, sure. Most of those however stopped voting Democratic a long time ago

Yes people tend to be racist to varying degrees, often at least partially determined by how much exposure they have to people unlike themselves. I got personalty involved in anti-racism activism starting in the mid to late 60's (I'm white), and doing so changed me for the better forever. But I will never claim to have uprooted and destroyed all of the hidden prejudices that were embedded in me growing up in a white suburban community. There are millions of whites with some prejudices and then there are hard core overt racists. The hard core racists have been voting Republican for years, Trump just gave them permission to wave their racist flags.

Barack Obama got a lot of white working class male votes in economically depressed areas- less than McCain or Romney perhaps but Obama did significantly better in those areas for two election cycles than our all white ticket did in them this time.

[leftofcool]

41. I guess Sanders really thought Trump would keep his promises, eh?

[bravenak]

43. It's a sad fact :(

[Cha]

54. No Shite!

[lark]

2. Orange assface is a total con.

He straight faced lied to his followers on purpose to trick them. He probably laughs at them behind closed doors, how stupid they are to fall for all his obvious, blatant, total lies. The only truths he told were about things that increase his profits or deal with his pet peeves, like removing all business regulations, giving billionaires a YOOGE tax decrease, and getting rid of brown non-rich people. I'm truly fearful about his nukes policy since he's part owner of co. trying to bring nukes to South Korea and other areas of the world and is on record as saying nukes are on the table.

[not fooled]

7. Spot on

As Thom Hartmann says, he ran as a Democrat. If he was an honorable man with a spotless history, you could take him seriously. But with his known history of lying, you had to be deficient to believe his utterances.

Why is it that all of us here saw through the orange turd's lies during the campaign, but over 60 million 'Muricans fell for the deception???

A mystery to me. I could see WANTING to believe but that doesn't mean you just sit back and fall for a con-man's lies.

[Doitnow]

22. reThugs LIE, CHEAT and STEAL to get into office. Then do more while in office.

[we can do it]

3. Well duh Bernie. Still delighted to work with him?

[retrowire]

10. he was delighted to work with a hypothetical Trump that would keep his economic word.

Wanna keep playing naive?

[we can do it]

15. Who's naive?

[retrowire]

17. Are you implying that Bernie was delighted to work with the Trump we expected?

Then that's naive. That is of course not what Bernie Sanders intended to do. Here he is, keeping Trump's feet to the fire as he said he would do, and you'd rather infer that Bernie was "delighted" to work with Trump in some other way?

[mathematic]

18. Oh it was rhetorical, like the hypothetically corrupt hillary clinton

But her speeches!

[retrowire]

34. Well, I think it's undebatable

That the majority of America seems to care about a politician's relationship with a company such as Goldman Sachs.

Just like Trump keeping his taxes to himself does him no favors, Hillary never revealing "harmless" speeches did her no favors either.

Full disclosure: I voted Bernie primary and Hillary general.

This is my opinion.

[leftofcool]

42. Uh, the majority of America voted for Hillary

Looks like those speeches were only important to Bernie and his folks.

[retrowire]

44. They did in the general! My theory might take a bit of math but.

I think you have to consider the results of the primaries and the general together. Then realize the general elections numbers collude some of those from the primary for voters like me.

The speeches mattered to me. Thus, Bernie for the primaries. He lost. So, Hillary for the general. The speeches still mattered though, because hey, she didn't like talking about them. You can't blame people for seeing a red flag there. Using white noise machines at speeches blah blah, you've heard it all I'm sure.

But anyways, look at the numbers that didn't vote Hillary in the primary. Then add those with the numbers that didn't vote for her in general. Again, some can be shaved off because of voters like me that knew it was more important to vote Hillary in the general.

These aren't hard numbers in the least, but for me, I believe it leads to a majority that gives a crap about politicians relationship with big money. Not specifically Hillary's speeches, but I'm saying the majority does care about big money and politicians.

....If that didn't clear it up then let's just drop it because I need dinner. lol

[R B Garr]

53. Your theories don't reflect what actually happened with the voting results

since she won the popular vote in both the primary and the general.

This election was decided by 70,000 to 80,000 voters spread out over about 3 states, and that was largely because of Donald's so-called promises to bring back grandpa's job and relax environmental standards on corporations. Was Bernie for that??

So the only people who cared about her "emails" came from a certain Bust movement who stayed home to protest our nominee, so that poster is correct that you are responding to. Those smears against her did affect the outcome, but apparently not releasing tax returns wasn't a big deal for that crowd, so now we're stuck with the madman. Priorities and all.

[dchill]

20. +1000

[JudyM]

12. Duh, he was clearly setting him up for the inevitable take-down, which is his/our best step now.

[we can do it]

14. More 600 dimensional chess?

[JudyM]

16. If you think it's that complicated...

[Beartracks]

31. If only I could put the :eyes: smilie in this post title...

... it would save you the trouble of having to open the post to see it.



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[JudyM]

45. Yep.

[Plucketeer]

5. We COULD HAVE had

A real person of the people in the Oval Office - doing exciting and real things of benefit for them. But we were denied that chance by the SAME BIG MONEY thru two supposedly opposoing channels. As it stands at the moment, if we survive 4 years of he Orange Crush, the sort of expertise we'll need most is folks who can reassemble exploded bombs to resemble their pre-detonated shape.

[Chakaconcarne]

8. Kind of an odd way to frame it though....

Are we disappointed trump has broken all of these promises... quite frankly I'm good with this implement and fail approach for the next 4 years.

[msanthrope]

9. No shit, Bernie. nt

[JudyM]

13. We need more vocal support of this point by our congressional Dems. Should be front page a few

times a week.

[delisen]

19. Why does Sanders keep telling us what "The Democrats" should do?

He has a forum, he has a position within the Democratic Party. He has followers. He should be able to point out the economic issues without categorizing other important issues as a distraction.

The human rights Issues are not just "bright shiny objects" distracting us, as Sanders agreed in the article.

[Doitnow]

23. Who else is doing it?

[delisen]

25. Doing what? Telling us what Democrats should do? nt

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[MFM008]

26. If this actually surprises him

I will eat my computer.
Ok... look at it hungrily.............

[samnsara]

37. i could have said that....

[6000eliot]

39. The only thing remarkable about this story is that Sanders seems to still think that Trump

is a normal politician capable of being reasoned with.

[retrowire]

48. I think he knows he isnt

But it's strategically better to feign giving the benefit of a doubt to him and thusly his following. And then when they all obviously fail, call them out. Call them liars. You'll have irrefutable evidence to do so.

[madokie]

40. I trust Bernie

like not many politicians ever. Bernie is a straight shooter. I know of no lies he's told ever.

Why is it always the Dems have the most honest politicians? Is it because us dems are honest or what? I know I'll tell the truth even if its detrimental to my well being. As my mother always said, tell the truth and you never have to remember what lie you told. I take that advice to heart

dRumpf I trust NOT for a second.

[TomCADem]

51. Sanders, joined by Rust Belt Democrats, praises Trump for nixing TPP

Sanders certainly seems open to meeting Trump halfway.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/01/23/sanders-praises-trump-for-nixing-tpp-delighted-to-work-with-him-on-pro-worker-policies/?utm_term=.687667dc96b1

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt), who campaigned hard against the Trans-Pacific Partnership in last year’s Democratic presidential primaries, praised President Trump for an executive order to officially pull the United States out of the deal.

“I am glad the Trans-Pacific Partnership is dead and gone,” Sanders said. “For the last 30 years, we have had a series of trade deals — including the North American Free Trade Agreement, permanent normal trade relations with China and others — which have cost us millions of decent-paying jobs and caused a ‘race to the bottom’ which has lowered wages for American workers. Now is the time to develop a new trade policy that helps working families, not just multinational corporations. If President Trump is serious about a new policy to help American workers, then I would be delighted to work with him.”

Most Democrats in Congress opposed the TPP, putting them at odds with the Obama administration. During the campaign, Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton came out against the TPP after praising the negotiations that had resulted in it. After the election, Sanders and others saw Trump’s victory as the stake through the heart of the trade deal.

And on Monday, Democrats who, like Sanders, had campaigned against Trump, joined him in saluting the executive order.

[marylandblue]

46. Bernie is engaging in progressive populism

The antidote to authoritarian populism. It will work if we all work it. It won't change the minds of the deplorables. But it will get those people who were motivated more by economic anxiety. And there were a lot of those.

[Blue_Tires]

49. Can Bernie please quit starting his criticisms from the position that

Trump was ever a legit politician making legit campaign promises in good faith?

[Justice]

50. The only thing that surprises me is Sanders seems surprised President Trump lied.

[Tom Rinaldo]

52. There is absolutely no indication that Sanders is "surprised" by this

And if you paid any attention to what Sanders had to say about Trump, either while he was running or later when he was supporting Clinton, Sanders consistently calked Trump a pathological liar, AND scoffed at the absurdity of a man who was born into money, who treats workers like crap, who brags about both his wealth and the fact that he pays no taxes, posing as a defender of the working class.

However some of those who actually voted for Trump might be both surprised and disturbed by what Trump's administration is and is not doing. They are the audience for these comments.