Oklahoma lawmaker defends pregnant women are 'hosts' comment
Source: Associated Press
Sean Murphy, Associated Press Updated 2:50 pm, Tuesday, February 14, 2017
OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) A Republican Oklahoma lawmaker who defended his description of pregnant women as "hosts" won approval Tuesday for his bill that would require women seeking an abortion to first receive written consent from the father.
The state House Public Health Committee voted 5-2 in favor of the bill by Rep. Justin Humphrey, despite Humphrey's own concession that it might be unconstitutional. It now proceeds to the full House, where it's likely to pass if granted a hearing.
"The thing I wanted to spark in a debate is that fathers have a role. Exactly where that role is, I'm not sure," said Humphrey, R-Lane. "I'm proud that I've gotten a chance to start the conversation."
The bill would require women seeking an abortion to provide the name of the father and would prohibit her from going through with it without his written informed consent. It also would allow the father to demand that a paternity test be performed and would provide exceptions in cases where the woman is the victim of rape or incest or if the pregnancy would endanger her life.
Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/medical/article/Oklahoma-lawmaker-wants-father-s-permission-for-10931694.php
Ligyron
(7,616 posts)Is that a cane flask he's been drinking out of?
lark
(23,061 posts)Women are not just baby ovens.
elmac
(4,642 posts)sounds like a bad Alien movie. Those OK lawmakers must come from the planet Dumbass.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)when they get a woman pregnant. I'm guessing he thinks it's perfectly fine for a man to skip out on his responsibility if said man doesn't want to pay child support. 'Cause womenfolk aren't really full human beings, ya' know?
LisaM
(27,794 posts)Is he implying that once there is conception, the hosting part begins?
Bengus81
(6,928 posts)Does this IDIOT think they guy who RAPED the women will show back up to sign a waiver?!?
Who the FUCK are these people?!??!
Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)starshine00
(531 posts)the rape parts, for various reasons.
randome
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... and neglected for many years. The old adage is still true, if you can't make headlines by being or doing something extraordinary, then all you have to do is be an asshole.
He's a total piece of shit.
Bengus81
(6,928 posts)then baffle them with BULLshit.
W Mousie
(22 posts)A male is merely a dispenser of sperm.
When a woman -- any woman -- wishes to become pregnant by a man, she may get a court order to have a sample extracted, by force if necessary, and when conception results, said sperm dispenser must financially support the resulting offspring for the following eighteen years.
That makes about as much sense as requiring permission to abort from a rapist.
starshine00
(531 posts)how I felt about male victims of rape being forced to support their offspring. I don't understand the mechanics of this so I just said "I wasn't there"...the courts can decide. But seriously, how does this work I wonder...
arithia
(455 posts)Freethinker65
(9,999 posts)How do enough assholes get in office for bills like this to make it to the house floor? I realize this is Oklahoma, but still.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)3,000 women named the same guy this year...
2naSalit
(86,323 posts)all it takes from a man is one squirt, where the woman has to host the growth inside her body for almost a year and endure all that entails... morning sickness, need of an entirely new wardrobe, a home-hopefully, time out of work schedule/income and, and, and....
The "investment" a man in this society is one of self gratification where for a woman it's an entire restructuring of her entire existence, it's SO fair and balanced.
for the "SO fair and balanced" part.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)and asked if the woman is considered a host, can the fetus be considered a parasite.
Bengus81
(6,928 posts)After the baby is born? Wouldn't that be too late for an abortion?
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Men can walk away, if they want. Why? Because it's not their body. Some men place birth control mainly on women because it's the woman's body, not the man's, that is involved in pregnancy. NOW some men want to say it doesn't matter whose body is involved, that her body doesn't matter at all.
Some men would actually use this to punish women they're on the outs with. Not allow abortion, so she's stuck, and then he'll walk away, anyway. "Catch me if you can."
I think, though, that many men are anxious for the women to get abortions, though. So I think the lawmaker would be surprised at that.
This is just a ruse to extend control over women's bodies. Are we really going back to the 1950 era, like Trump wants? The "good ol' days"?
world wide wally
(21,738 posts)vkkv
(3,384 posts)Ray Bruns
(4,074 posts)It's the look of someone who just stepped on a hornet's nest.
As a man, I can never understand these pro-birthers. Why can't they understand it is none of their effing business. Period.
mwooldri
(10,299 posts)If one is hosting an unwanted guest, and you want the guest to leave, shouldn't you have the right to do so?
Maybe someone should squat in his house for 9 months to prove the point.
Women aren't hosts. That's absurd.
hatrack
(59,574 posts)angrychair
(8,678 posts)An abusive man (mental or physical) can force a "host" *oh I mean a women aka a human being* into having his child, if she wants to or not and then use that child as a new way to abuse her? Nice...fuck this asshole.
jeffreyi
(1,938 posts)It looks like a wierd carving of female genitalia. What???
Judi Lynn
(160,450 posts)Someone needs to point it out to him!
emmadoggy
(2,142 posts)reprehensible and infuriating!!
SOOOOOOOO many things wrong with this! This puts ALL the control in the man's hands. The woman has no say. What about the guys that can't be tracked down, or refuse to answer the requests to come in and sign this, or the ones who refuse to do it as revenge (if they were spurned) - it becomes very easy for them to ruin the woman's life!
And the woman being a "host". UGH. Then the baby is a parasite - is that how he really wants to spin this? Idiot.
This is so fucking wrong on so many levels and makes me spitting mad!
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)To that lawmaker I would say: "How about 1 month jail time for every missed child support payment?
Host that, bitch!"
dobleremolque
(489 posts)in the Oklahoma Capitol building may be changed to: "Men" and "Fetus Hosts"
WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)And what is with that cane? Looks exactly like a vagina to me!