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riversedge

(70,197 posts)
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 08:03 PM Feb 2017

Constituents erupt as Iowa Sen. Joni Ernst flees town hall after only a handful of questions

Source: DailyKos



By Jen Hayden
Tuesday Feb 21, 2017 · 3:50 PM CST
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Joni Ernst flees town hall meeting after only 45 minutes
"Do your job!"


Iowa is fed up with Donald Trump and the Paul Ryan agenda. First Sen. Chuck Grassley took it on the chin at a town hall today, and now Sen. Joni Ernst is on video fleeing a town hall after only a handful of questions. The crowd erupted in anger chanting “Do your job!” as she fled through a side door. The Iowa Starting Line blog was there to capture the moment:

Read more: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/2/21/1636338/-Constituents-erupt-as-Senator-Joni-Ernst-flees-town-hall-after-only-a-handful-of-questions



I had a tread today on Joni Ernst Town Hall (more pics and comments at link)




http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028687906

Joni Ernst walks in to deafening chant of "Your Last Term!" and Hides behind VETS!..



IowaDemocraticParty Retweeted
Iowa Starting Line ‏@IAStartingLine 10m10 minutes ago

Joni Ernst walks in to deafening chant of "Your Last Term!" that overpowers the applause








Iowa Starting Line ‏@IAStartingLine 25s26 seconds ago

On a plus note, I'm learning a lot about veterans issues right now
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Iowa Starting Line ‏@IAStartingLine 6m6 minutes ago

Ernst asks crowd to pay attention/be respectful to veterans panel, then she'll take questions after. Only slightly mollifies crowd







@IAStartingLine hiding behind veterans so she won't have to answer tough questions. This was listed as a public event yes?

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Barb Tucker ‏@BarbieTuck 2m2 minutes ago

@roser1dozer @IAStartingLine Yes, it was listed as a public event. Here in Maquoketa County, as Ernst called it twice. It's Jackson County.

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roser1dozer ‏@roser1dozer 2m2 minutes ago

@IAStartingLine I feel sorry for our vets being treated as a public shield. Sad that she has stooped so low. Bless our vets. Vote her out
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Iowa Starting Line Retweeted
Eric Bradner ‏@ericbradner 12m12 minutes ago





MAQUOKETA, Iowa -- It's a packed house for what was billed as a small veterans' event with Sen. Joni Ernst.







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Constituents erupt as Iowa Sen. Joni Ernst flees town hall after only a handful of questions (Original Post) riversedge Feb 2017 OP
Fan Fucking Tastic. jalan48 Feb 2017 #1
Isn't it Joni Ernst the one who bragged about castrating hogs? Yea, that was her. What happened? napi21 Feb 2017 #2
im hopin a lot of these asshole will realize they dont really like their jobs. mopinko Feb 2017 #3
I enjoyed Ernst's discomfort, but unfortunately most Hortensis Feb 2017 #4
Sobering point. Once they've bought into an ideology or an ideologue erronis Feb 2017 #13
Strong-to-extreme conservatives overwhelmingly are causing Hortensis Feb 2017 #25
Great post. nt raccoon Feb 2017 #26
Yes, you are absolutely correct. By definition, or by nature a liberal is open-minded erronis Feb 2017 #31
:) Libertarians are an extremely interesting Hortensis Feb 2017 #32
Lots of pluses. Thank you. riversedge Feb 2017 #37
You think we're trying to persuade Trump voters? lagomorph777 Feb 2017 #30
And when those people have their own ideas Hortensis Feb 2017 #33
Still re-living the mythology from the primaries? lagomorph777 Feb 2017 #36
We better get used zentrum Feb 2017 #5
We have to be persistant. Yes we do riversedge Feb 2017 #11
Running away from her constituents? Blue Idaho Feb 2017 #6
Poor Senator Breadbags Still In Wisconsin Feb 2017 #7
Great news lately on the town halls! Ligyron Feb 2017 #8
Aren't the kochs supposed to start not fooled Feb 2017 #17
The DNC should Mr.Bill Feb 2017 #9
- Bigredhunk Feb 2017 #10
She Had an Emergency videohead5 Feb 2017 #12
The sentiment is snowballing. Great to see even middle Americans getting upset. George II Feb 2017 #14
Speaking of Middle Americans not fooled Feb 2017 #15
I have a feeling that will happen as soon as he TRIES to privatize SS and Medicare. TrollBuster9090 Feb 2017 #20
Problem is we haven't had a strong opponent.Same Chaffetz Alice11111 Feb 2017 #22
I love seeing Americans utilize the Bill of Rights. roamer65 Feb 2017 #16
"Brave Ms Jodi ran away/Bravely ran away, away" Retrograde Feb 2017 #18
+1, my thought too. Republican Profiles in Courage! FSogol Feb 2017 #29
I heard she was rushing off to the Pentagon to see if this meeting finally qualifies her TrollBuster9090 Feb 2017 #19
Is that the witch that talked about castrating politicians the way she did pigs on the farm? Stellar Feb 2017 #21
Ha Ha Alice11111 Feb 2017 #23
Can it be a last term for Grassley and Paul Ryan too.. coco22 Feb 2017 #24
Joni Ernst - The ball crusher packman Feb 2017 #27
I love it! red dog 1 Feb 2017 #28
. Rex Feb 2017 #34
Chicken shit Republicans Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2017 #35

napi21

(45,806 posts)
2. Isn't it Joni Ernst the one who bragged about castrating hogs? Yea, that was her. What happened?
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 08:16 PM
Feb 2017

Mrs. HOT SHOT is now afraid of her constituents? Come-on back Joni andanswer the questions from the people who voted you into office, or don't come back and prepare to retire at the end of your term.

mopinko

(70,088 posts)
3. im hopin a lot of these asshole will realize they dont really like their jobs.
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 08:20 PM
Feb 2017

i am sure they never thought they would be on the receiving end of this much shit. lol on them.
go home.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. I enjoyed Ernst's discomfort, but unfortunately most
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 08:46 PM
Feb 2017

Trump voters are far more fed up with Democratic anger than with their choices for office. They're going to have to face a lot more betrayal and pain--and especially realization that their choices are losing the battles to Democrats, before they fall away.

These are the people who reelected Nixon, Reagan, and W despite betrayal, failure, serious economic problems, and criminal misconduct in their first terms. Winning for them is first, middle and last about defeating us, all issues sacrificed to that.

Hopefully some of the ones who didn't care enough to pay attention and/or vote will finally be jogged into noticing, though.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
13. Sobering point. Once they've bought into an ideology or an ideologue
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 09:39 PM
Feb 2017

It's damn hard to get them to look at reality.

Same for liberals, anarchists, evangelical xians.

Just that when the platform they adopt is so irrational the buy-in is much deeper. Realizing that piece-of-crap you bought is a true loss. Some people go through many rounds of crap buying, some never learn.

"When you stop learning you have stopped living."

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. Strong-to-extreme conservatives overwhelmingly are causing
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 07:12 AM
Feb 2017

our nation's big problems. A republic requires cooperation among factions. Conservatives refuse, and the goal of today's conservative leaders in pursuing refusal is to break our republic.

Evangelicals are mostly but at not all conservative, and only conservative evangelicals behave this way. Anarchists can be right or left, but they are all extremists and by definition destructive and obstructive. Left-wing non-anarchist extremists are often drawn to authoritarian leaders, but the problem they most normally pose is attacking others on the left who support democracy, not opposing democracy itself.

But liberals? And more moderate conservatives who also genuinely believe in the principles our nation was founded on?

If we were all prone to subjecting all claimed principles to a basic focus on "my side must win," "my leaders must rule," "I must have what I want," and "we must defeat all the others," WHO would have believed that all men are created equal, much less done something so stupid as to set up a government dedicated to that principle? Not strong conservatives. Liberals and those moderate conservatives who believed in it did.

Note that strong conservative personality does NOT naturally believe in equality of all men. Research has demonstrated this many times. And in the past few decades the beliefs in equality they were raised with in this democracy have been systematically undermined. We now are seeing how consistently they approve of leaders who promise to restore inequality, discriminate against those they see as unworthy, and reward those they regard as superior.

WHO would have built a great democratic government of, by and for the people? Not strong conservatives. Liberals and those moderate conservatives who believed in it did. Strong conservatives fought and lost in the days of our founding. They have never been powerful enough to destroy democracy in the centuries since--until the past few decades, during which those in government have managed to destroy many of the democratic processes that make our government work of, by, and for the people. And they intend to destroy many more--because they don't believe in this.

Think about it.

We are in battle to save the liberal, and intrinsically progressive, principles and processes of our democratic republic from those who would destroy them. The Jeffersonian faction won against the Hamiltonians well over 200 years ago, laying the foundation of a great nation, but those in control on the right today think they will finally be able to reverse that loss.



erronis

(15,241 posts)
31. Yes, you are absolutely correct. By definition, or by nature a liberal is open-minded
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 06:53 PM
Feb 2017

And willing to change positions given a rational view of an alternative. I don't know how "liberal" snuck into my screech - perhaps I meant "libertarian" (whatever that means.)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. :) Libertarians are an extremely interesting
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 08:38 PM
Feb 2017

personality type. I suspect Paul Ryan is the real thing, but I've read that some have doubts about the Kochs. They've been known to use the government to protect their fortunes from market changes and may just be authoritarian fascist types like their dad.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
30. You think we're trying to persuade Trump voters?
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 04:25 PM
Feb 2017

They are a lost cause; they lack the intellectual capacity to vote in their self-interest.

We need to rouse the base and show the stay-at-homes why staying home in any election is terribly dangerous.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. And when those people have their own ideas
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 08:50 PM
Feb 2017

about what the Democratic Party should be doing? That aren't the same?

More than a little problem developed when some of Bernie's more aggressive followers discovered that POC had their own interests and agenda and actually, you know, criticized him for not addressing their special concerns in his agenda. The opportunity to work together didn't just fail, it turned into months of resentful acting out because they didn't become loyal followers and agree to subjugate their agenda to his.

Would it be different this time? Remember, the people you're talking tend to belong to various interest groups. Bringing them in will require the kind of flexibility and accommodation to satisfy that those farther left tend to despise in liberals.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
36. Still re-living the mythology from the primaries?
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 10:17 AM
Feb 2017

That's as sad as Trump's constant reciting of Alternative Facts® about his grand electoral victory.

To help you get over the Alternative Facts® about Bernie's relationship to people of color, have a look at this please.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-bernie-sanders-1963-chicago-arrest-20160219-story.html

The myth of Sanders' disinterest in African Americans was apparently part of Putin's propaganda push.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
5. We better get used
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 08:57 PM
Feb 2017

..to doing this every damn time as they come after Social Security and Medicare. Because they are coming for it.

Ligyron

(7,629 posts)
8. Great news lately on the town halls!
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 09:07 PM
Feb 2017

I so enjoyed reading about them all.

The GOP is going to try and figure away around this as opposed to actually listening and doing anything constructive progressively though.

Bet they double down on voter suppression too - or try to.

But meanwhile, the pressure is getting to many of them.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
17. Aren't the kochs supposed to start
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 09:54 PM
Feb 2017

busing in teabaggers to these meetings?

What are the baggers going to say--"Yes, take away my SS and medicare. Poison me with pollution."

Dumbasses.

The kochs are probably hoping to see prole hand-to-hand combat.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
9. The DNC should
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 09:13 PM
Feb 2017

start organizing recall efforts for every Republican member of Congress. Every. Single. One.

Strike while the iron is hot. Force them to spend money, time and effort fighting a recall election.

Bigredhunk

(1,349 posts)
10. -
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 09:15 PM
Feb 2017

My dad went there for our fam. He said it was packed, almost all our people, and the signs were GREAT!!

They kissed up to him when they found out he was a veteran.

He didn't get to ask a question.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
15. Speaking of Middle Americans
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 09:48 PM
Feb 2017

When will the good people of Lyin' Ryan's district in Janesville, WI stop reelecting this sociopath? Don't they understand what he wants to do to SS and Medicare???

Someone needs to wake them from their trance.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
20. I have a feeling that will happen as soon as he TRIES to privatize SS and Medicare.
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 10:06 PM
Feb 2017

The job of Democrats and constituents will be to try and stop them.

Try, unsuccessfully, to privatize Medicare, and the Republicans are history.

(But I don't think that's what they'll do. They'll only privatize parts of it, the way they did for Medicare Part D, and claim they really didn't privatize it. And the negative effects will only become visible later on. They're pretty good at setting up time-bomb legislation.)

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
22. Problem is we haven't had a strong opponent.Same Chaffetz
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 10:24 PM
Feb 2017

We REALLY, REALLY need a strong DNC Chair, and fast.
Personally, i think both the main options are good and valuable people, but not what we need now for the DNC.
Lack experience. Not outspoken. No charisma.
Not used to fighting and calling out Repub tricks.
Not used to news conferences or media circuits.
This is not the time to try and educate new people.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
16. I love seeing Americans utilize the Bill of Rights.
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 09:49 PM
Feb 2017

That's why James Madison worked so hard on those first 10 amendments.

Be proud, be loud!

Retrograde

(10,134 posts)
18. "Brave Ms Jodi ran away/Bravely ran away, away"
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 09:54 PM
Feb 2017

Every time I hear of a Congressperson fleeing a constituent meeting it reminds me of Robin's minstrels from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

At least she showed up: my representative - a Dem - only holds telephone town meetings. At least she's good about answering emails, though.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
21. Is that the witch that talked about castrating politicians the way she did pigs on the farm?
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 10:14 PM
Feb 2017

I'd like to see something similar happen to her.

coco22

(1,258 posts)
24. Can it be a last term for Grassley and Paul Ryan too..
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 10:42 PM
Feb 2017

This mfker can't takeover and spout his bullshit like he does at those hearings trying to prevent free thoughts and back and forth in a conversation.

The talk shit and put lies in the record for history. NOT THIS TIME,I'm hoping..RESIST!

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
27. Joni Ernst - The ball crusher
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 10:54 AM
Feb 2017

Now you know what it feels like. Disgusting piece of shit who appealed to the lowest of the low for election. May it be her last trip off the farm.

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
28. I love it!
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 04:08 PM
Feb 2017

This is happening all over America!

A couple of days ago, Freedom Caucus founder Rep. Jim Jordan decided to skip his town meeting entirely; but his constituents tracked him down & brought the town meeting to him.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028684393

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