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highplainsdem

(48,917 posts)
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 04:12 PM Feb 2017

Bannon: Trump administration is in unending battle for 'deconstruction of the administrative state'

Source: WaPo

Stephen K. Bannon, President Trump’s reclusive chief strategist and the intellectual force behind his nationalist agenda, said Thursday that the new administration is locked in an unending battle against the media and other globalist forces to “deconstruct” an outdated system of governance.

In his first public speaking appearance since Trump took office, Bannon made his comments alongside White House chief of staff Reince Priebus at a gathering of conservative activists. They sought to prove that they are not rivals but partners in fighting on Trump’s behalf to transform Washington and the world order.

“They’re going to continue to fight,” Bannon said of the media, which he repeatedly described as “the opposition party,” and other forces he sees as standing in the president’s way. “If you think they are giving you your country back without a fight, you are sadly mistaken.”

Atop Trump’s agenda, Bannon said, was the “deconstruction of the administrative state” — meaning a system of taxes, regulations and trade pacts that the president and his advisers believe stymie economic growth and infringe upon one’s sovereignty.

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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/02/23/bannon-trump-administration-is-in-unending-battle-for-deconstruction-of-the-administrative-state/

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Bannon: Trump administration is in unending battle for 'deconstruction of the administrative state' (Original Post) highplainsdem Feb 2017 OP
So now it's Cliven Fucking Bundy in the White House snooper2 Feb 2017 #1
sure seems like it-- racism and idiocy and theft and all Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #22
This country has stuxnetted itself Cosmocat Feb 2017 #58
Holy. Shit. Itchinjim Feb 2017 #2
This should have set everyone's hair on fire Cosmocat Feb 2017 #59
Bring it on, Booze Cannon C_U_L8R Feb 2017 #3
Booze Cannon underpants Feb 2017 #6
To clarify. They don't believe in democracy and are seeking to destroy it. bullimiami Feb 2017 #4
That's the right term, except for the fascist police state. Bannon wants NO part of... Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #30
Mr. Genius just admitted that is OUR country underpants Feb 2017 #5
Bannon: we have met the enemy Marthe48 Feb 2017 #7
The American people - Enemy, Russia - Friends ElementaryPenguin Feb 2017 #54
So, in other words, canetoad Feb 2017 #8
Well la-dee-frickin-da BeyondGeography Feb 2017 #9
If this is irrelevant, so is the sun. hedda_foil Feb 2017 #24
Well, I did see the comic value of Reince Preibus pretending to be an anarchist's soulmate BeyondGeography Feb 2017 #26
Wow! 4 and 5-syllable words from the trump administration! Paladin Feb 2017 #10
Bannius Caesar frazzled Feb 2017 #11
deconstruct an outdated system of governance CrispyQ Feb 2017 #12
just saw on the tube as I walked by... administration is going to enforce marijuana laws OKNancy Feb 2017 #13
And Then They Say Ccarmona Feb 2017 #27
STATES RIGHTS! Cosmocat Feb 2017 #60
I wish I was surprised DonCoquixote Feb 2017 #14
"infringe upon ones sovereignty??"... WTF happened to these people as kids? NoMoreRepugs Feb 2017 #15
Not sure Phoenix61 Feb 2017 #42
I can't think of a single country that had hands off approach that was successful hollowdweller Feb 2017 #16
They are begging for a civil war Angry Dragon Feb 2017 #17
sure seems like it-- some sort of massive disruption they can use for their ends Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #21
So they can declare martial law Angry Dragon Feb 2017 #23
I'm sure they dream about that, but wouldn't it be bad for businesses? Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #34
Not begging. Maneuvering. JHB Feb 2017 #44
The Republican mantra for the past 3 decades has been "Government is the problem" Zorro Feb 2017 #46
The outcome won't be.. coco22 Feb 2017 #55
Freaking total lies and BS. lark Feb 2017 #18
Jeez, these people are fucking bananas Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #19
There it is: destroy the basis of US democracy. sinkingfeeling Feb 2017 #20
Bannon is on record as proclaiming himself as a "Leninist", olddad56 Feb 2017 #25
Wow JCinNYC Feb 2017 #28
Excuse me while I puke Blue_Roses Feb 2017 #29
He's talking about the convergence of government and business. does it have a familiar note? mulsh Feb 2017 #31
Some Italian guy mentioned it a while back FiveGoodMen Feb 2017 #38
He is 12 steps short of a 12 step program bronxiteforever Feb 2017 #32
I wonder how many pots of black coffee... Dopers_Greed Feb 2017 #33
That man really needs to be stopped. Cold. Solly Mack Feb 2017 #35
YES. MBS Feb 2017 #41
The way they say "the media" and "the mainstream media" - a total misnomer. By now Fox & all the ot Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2017 #36
Somehow, someone has to get Bannon out, whether it is the Republicans, Democrats or OnDoutside Feb 2017 #37
Trump is an empty suit. volstork Feb 2017 #39
I hope everyone is paying attention orangecrush Feb 2017 #40
Bannon's hardly an "intellectual force" - ideological, yes, but I'd never call him intellectual. JudyM Feb 2017 #43
Since he apparently misunderstands the term "deconstruction", I'm inclined to agree. eppur_se_muova Feb 2017 #48
Right!? Another example of twisting things to mean whatever they want them to mean. JudyM Feb 2017 #50
"If you think they are giving you your country back without a fight, you are sadly mistaken."??????? Lint Head Feb 2017 #45
Priebus was a 'rival'? Uh.....when was that LiberalLovinLug Feb 2017 #47
This is what that journalist meant by "your institutions won't save you." nikibatts Feb 2017 #49
You'd think it would be a bigger story Blue_Tires Feb 2017 #51
They are the best destructors, that's the point n/t radhika Feb 2017 #52
Exactly,that is why we.. coco22 Feb 2017 #56
How ANYONE can be OK with this ... Cosmocat Feb 2017 #62
These people give me the chills. MBS Feb 2017 #53
Deconstruction. Tracer Feb 2017 #57
Chris Dickey did a beautiful job of interpreting that phrase, last night.... Paladin Feb 2017 #61

Cosmocat

(14,559 posts)
58. This country has stuxnetted itself
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:41 AM
Feb 2017

We have chosen to infect the very core of our country with a malignant virus ...

Cosmocat

(14,559 posts)
59. This should have set everyone's hair on fire
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:42 AM
Feb 2017

but, it is a radical conservative group, so they will just chew their cuds and nod ...

But, any sentient American should see this for what it is - an anarchist in full control of our country.

bullimiami

(13,076 posts)
4. To clarify. They don't believe in democracy and are seeking to destroy it.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 04:23 PM
Feb 2017

They believe in Capitalistic Oligarchy. Might makes right.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,429 posts)
30. That's the right term, except for the fascist police state. Bannon wants NO part of...
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 05:59 PM
Feb 2017

...the Preamble to the Constitution (or ANY part of the Constitution, for that matter). Especially the part about "promote the general welfare" of its citizens. Forcing people into poverty and an early death is just the way that a capitalist oligarchy operates. If you're in pain and can't afford medical services, you don't even get the chance to end the suffering quickly. You just die slowly and painfully. Welcome to Trumpy's world.

Behind the veneer of PR and media events, they're just an elitist Death Cult. The rich are buddies; the not so rich are, oh, dispensable and forgettable. We see this in Trumpy's ACTIONS.

Marthe48

(16,905 posts)
7. Bannon: we have met the enemy
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 04:24 PM
Feb 2017

and they are us.

(National Lampoon's Missing White House Tapes)

How much longer do we have to wait to get these enemies of the state out of Washington?

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
54. The American people - Enemy, Russia - Friends
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 09:42 AM
Feb 2017

FUCK YOU, Fat Arrogant Turd!!! Mad Eye Moody. YOU'RE gonna lose this war BIGLY!!!

BeyondGeography

(39,351 posts)
9. Well la-dee-frickin-da
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 04:26 PM
Feb 2017

Irrelevant spew. Didn't see anything about health care in that article or anything else that would, you know, keep actual people from being annihilated by our economy.

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
24. If this is irrelevant, so is the sun.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 05:17 PM
Feb 2017

The chief strategist to the president of the United States stands up on television and says they are destroying everything we value in our government and your comment is that? This is the person who tells trumpelstiltskin what to think, do and say.

BeyondGeography

(39,351 posts)
26. Well, I did see the comic value of Reince Preibus pretending to be an anarchist's soulmate
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 05:32 PM
Feb 2017

while he pontificated about a Revolution which will never happen. Trump and his 38 percent approval ratings that have R Congressmen ducking for cover at town halls will take on the Deep State, will he? Forgive me if my hair isn't exactly on fire.

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
10. Wow! 4 and 5-syllable words from the trump administration!
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 04:26 PM
Feb 2017

I bet bannon's back at the White House right now, drawing his boss a stick-figure translation......

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
12. deconstruct an outdated system of governance
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 04:36 PM
Feb 2017

You know, that pesky 'all people are created equal' crap, along with that 'government of, by & for the people' bullshit.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
13. just saw on the tube as I walked by... administration is going to enforce marijuana laws
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 04:36 PM
Feb 2017

That sounds like "infringe upon one's sovereignty" So does a lot of other crap they are doing.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
27. And Then They Say
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 05:34 PM
Feb 2017

Trans-gender regulations are a States Rights Issue.
Which is it? They make up policies to fit their twisted agenda.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
14. I wish I was surprised
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 04:37 PM
Feb 2017

So in other words, they want a country without the means to keep any bandit, privateer, corporation, modern-day slaver or self ordained noble from raping, pillaging and plundering.

Not to mention that they will also have no problem with corporations that are really odd bits of foreign states from doing any of the above. Russia's most obvious example of the moment, but for all the trumpet and Bannon's bigoted heat of the Chinese, they might turn out to be the big winners, especially in 2024 when our president Mitch McConnell or Paul Ryan takes the stage at times our country and the sort of science-fiction nightmare that most video game companies would reject for being unfeasible.

Every time somebody says "we have to understand that Trump voters/white working-class/Reagan Democrats" I will look at this and be reminded that at best we can have an armed truce.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
16. I can't think of a single country that had hands off approach that was successful
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 04:53 PM
Feb 2017

If our people and gov't will not act together and are merely a collection of individuals, and not a common culture then we will be passed up by countries where people work together and the gov't intervenes to make the economy and society successful.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
44. Not begging. Maneuvering.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 08:19 PM
Feb 2017

Brannon is the apocalyptic type that wants a final showdown of the good and righteous (which he defines as himself) against the degenerates and barbarians (everyone else). Same stripe as bin Laden, or Maoists that think the system has to be swept away and replaced with their vision of utopia.

And Brannon is on record has referring to himself as a Leninist (in terms of tactics to bring about his blinkered vision).

Zorro

(15,724 posts)
46. The Republican mantra for the past 3 decades has been "Government is the problem"
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 08:24 PM
Feb 2017

and they are determined to make it so.

lark

(23,065 posts)
18. Freaking total lies and BS.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 05:04 PM
Feb 2017

He wants the clear the way for oligarchs to control everything and for the constitution and our protections to be removed. It's opportunities to steal, rape and pillage that he wants not hindered by trival things like labor & environmental & healthcare laws. He wants Goldman Sachs and the banks to have carte blanche to steal from us and wants to take away our information so they can screw us privately and it'll be harder to organize against them. He wants barons and serfs and guess which he is and which we are? Everything else is just window dressing.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
25. Bannon is on record as proclaiming himself as a "Leninist",
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 05:19 PM
Feb 2017

when asked what that meant, he said that Vladimir Lenin was an advocate of destroying the state.

so basically, despite his attempt to turn that around onto the media, destroying our democracy is that asshole's goal.

JCinNYC

(366 posts)
28. Wow
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 05:38 PM
Feb 2017

They are really old-school monarchists.

They don't want to just take use back before the New Deal.
They want to take us way back before our independence where monarchies governed people. And the wealth was spread thru nepotism, greedy oligarchs, chummy insiders, and useful idiots.

Works good - as long as your part of the monarchy.
Not so good for everyone else.

They're part of a new world order that believes that western liberal democracy is done for. Democracy is a failed experiment in their minds. That's why they get along with Putin. They carry the same ideology. That's the real connection in all of this.

And they keep using the word "Freedom"
I don't they truly understand what that means.

Their intentionally confusing us by pitting the fight between strong central government (Federalist) vs decentralized (Jeffersonian), which has been a struggle back/forth since the beginning of the republic.

All the while, what they really want to destroy is democracy itself.
That the real "system" he's talking about "deconstructing".

Scary Times indeed

MBS

(9,688 posts)
41. YES.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 08:10 PM
Feb 2017

Of course, we all knew that that was the plan - all you need to do is look at the staff and cabinet appointments/nominations.

But to hear Bannon actually say it, out loud: chilling.
Evil and darkness personified.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
36. The way they say "the media" and "the mainstream media" - a total misnomer. By now Fox & all the ot
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 07:15 PM
Feb 2017

other conservative media are now totally "MAINSTREAM" ... they largely determine how issues are framed nowadays.

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
37. Somehow, someone has to get Bannon out, whether it is the Republicans, Democrats or
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 07:52 PM
Feb 2017

Intelligence agencies. Get him out and Trump becomes so much weaker.

orangecrush

(19,434 posts)
40. I hope everyone is paying attention
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 08:07 PM
Feb 2017

This madman has the keys of power in his shaking hands.

We are in serious danger.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
45. "If you think they are giving you your country back without a fight, you are sadly mistaken."???????
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 08:22 PM
Feb 2017

Sounds like a physical threat to me. Hell. I'll fight that fat asshole. Somebody in close proximity sure needs to. He long lost his Navy physicality. He has all the physical earmarks of a drunk.

 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
49. This is what that journalist meant by "your institutions won't save you."
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 06:01 AM
Feb 2017

The sooner all those folks attending town halls understand what Bannon and crew are all about, the more active they should become.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
51. You'd think it would be a bigger story
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 09:20 AM
Feb 2017

for the Trump Junta to openly admit they're appointing incompetents to destroy the departments they're running through incompetence and demagoguery...

I'm old enough to remember when Trump said he only hired the "best people"...

coco22

(1,258 posts)
56. Exactly,that is why we..
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:05 AM
Feb 2017

have to contact the media ,congress and senate to let them know we are not having it.

I heard one of these CON congressmen say he was surprised that the protestors were so informed,they think we are all dummies who can't see and feel what is going on.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
53. These people give me the chills.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 09:36 AM
Feb 2017

I agree with BlueTires that the Trump Junta's admission of their coup should be a MUCH bigger story than it is. Even PBS NewsHour barely mentioned the explosive/damning ramifications of Bannon's speech. It's just damned scary. I keep coming back to this thread/story because I personally find that speech (and Bannon himself) so terrifying.

Tracer

(2,769 posts)
57. Deconstruction.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:23 AM
Feb 2017

There was a guest on Lawrence last night who mentioned that he thought Bannon was taking his ideas from Jacques Derida, who first posited the idea of "deconstruction".

If anyone is interested in plowing through some really obscure philosophizing about deconstruction, try this:

http://criticallegalthinking.com/2016/05/27/jacques-derrida-deconstruction/

--------------------
Derrida takes as his starting point the assertion that modern Western philosophy is characterized by and constructed around an inherent desire to place meaning at the centre of presence. Put simply, what this means is that philosophy is driven by a desire for the certainty associated with the existence of an absolute truth, or an objective meaning that makes sense of our place in the world.

In Positions Derrida explains how the first task of deconstruction is to overturn the hierarchy. This is necessary to highlight the ‘conflictual and subordinating structure of opposition’.7 It emphasizes the dominance of one particular way of thinking over others, and belies the idea of fixed meaning, overturning, and therefore exposing, the existence of the binary and destabilizing previously fixed categories of understanding.

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
61. Chris Dickey did a beautiful job of interpreting that phrase, last night....
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:52 AM
Feb 2017

....on Lawrence's show.

Dickey said that snotty "deconstruction" phrase was a direct lift from some French philosopher, something that went right over the heads of those CPAC clods---but any French audience would recognize the phrase for what it was: a pathetic effort by a would-be intellectual showoff.

Lawrence did a nice job of "deconstructing" Bannon's street person-slob appearance: Bannon does it to show he's immune to trump's surprisingly rigid dress code for his staff---it's Bannon's way of showing that he, rather than trump, is the most powerful person in the White House. Lucky us.......

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