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brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 09:45 AM Feb 2017

47% of the Country Say Trump Has Violated the Constitution, but Few Support Impeachment

Source: PRRI

Nearly half (47%) of the public believe Trump has acted in ways that violate the U.S. Constitution. Roughly as many (46%) say that he has not.

The country is sharply divided along political lines. Roughly eight in ten (79%) Democrats, but only about one in ten (11%) Republicans, believe Trump has violated the Constitution. Political independents, like the public overall, are closely divided in their views, with 44% saying he has and 49% saying he has not.

There is a robust gender divide in views about the constitutionality of Trump’s actions. A majority (55%) of women believe Trump has acted in ways that violate the U.S. Constitution while only 39% of men believe he has. A majority (53%) of men say Trump has not violated the Constitution.

...snip...

Despite concerns about unconstitutional actions, relatively few Americans believe Trump should be subject to impeachment proceedings. Three in ten (30%) Americans say Trump should be impeached and removed from office, while nearly two-thirds (65%) disagree. Notably, a similar number of Americans supported the impeachment of Barack Obama (29%) and George W. Bush (30%), although at a much later date in their presidencies.

Read more: http://www.prri.org/research/poll-trump-impeachment-constitution-partisanship-muslim-ban/

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47% of the Country Say Trump Has Violated the Constitution, but Few Support Impeachment (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2017 OP
I don't support impeachment. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #1
HOWEVER, impeachment proceedings would slow down his wrecking the country groundloop Feb 2017 #2
Absolutely. I would have no problem with impeachment proceedings. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #8
He's a fucking disaster for the country BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #9
And, like I said, I think it would be worse for the Democrats and the country if he's gone. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #17
The longer he is there, the more the propganda due to his tweets. BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #18
Pence will be just as bad as Trump at detaining and rounding up POC. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #19
There's nothing in my post that claims I know you BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #20
Got it. We disagree. nt StubbornThings Feb 2017 #21
There is nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree. nt BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #22
Give it time!!! TranssexualKaren Feb 2017 #3
Let the Russia stuff keep coming in titaniumsalute Feb 2017 #4
Sad!! 7962 Feb 2017 #5
It says 56% of GOP and 30% of Indies wanted to impeach Pres. Obama!? KeepItReal Feb 2017 #6
Just another misleading poll from Public Religion Research Institute. JTFrog Feb 2017 #7
The longer he's in office, and the more the Repugs cover for him... Dopers_Greed Feb 2017 #10
Or DownriverDem Feb 2017 #13
Why do you all suppose this is? Texin Feb 2017 #11
But... DownriverDem Feb 2017 #12
very different from recent ppp poll triron Feb 2017 #14
I'm not familiar with that polling organization Bradical79 Feb 2017 #15
Since you would need to get the Repugnants on board to support impeachment its probably cstanleytech Feb 2017 #16
 

StubbornThings

(259 posts)
1. I don't support impeachment.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 09:49 AM
Feb 2017

He's a gift to Democrats/Progressives and I think things will actually be worse with him gone. I know for a fact that the Republicans would be ecstatic to get rid him.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
2. HOWEVER, impeachment proceedings would slow down his wrecking the country
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 09:54 AM
Feb 2017

He's doing a pretty good job of messing up the country via executive order (for instance he just rescinded Pres. Obama's order to cut back on govt. use of private prisons). I have to believe that impeachment proceedings would preoccupy him and the rest of the repukes and significantly slow down their attack on American working people.

BumRushDaShow

(128,874 posts)
9. He's a fucking disaster for the country
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 11:29 AM
Feb 2017

and sets the stage for future despots to openly violate ethics rules and the Constitution. The longer he stays, the more negative precedent he sets.

He needs to be removed post haste.

 

StubbornThings

(259 posts)
17. And, like I said, I think it would be worse for the Democrats and the country if he's gone.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 03:11 PM
Feb 2017

I don't disagree that he's a fucking disaster. I just think it will be worse without him.

BumRushDaShow

(128,874 posts)
18. The longer he is there, the more the propganda due to his tweets.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 03:43 PM
Feb 2017

Pence is a christo-fascist but right now, he's not out there tweeting bullshit that the base eats up. And right now, the jackass is signing illegal E.O.s that are impacting people left and right and that will take time to get through the courts to halt.

So maybe white America doesn't think it's bad now but for POC (or anyone who LOOKS like a POC) - they are getting stopped and detained and rounded up RIGHT NOW - something that had already been happening at the local level for years and is now happening at the federal level.

How the fuck ISN'T this "worse"?

Oh that's right. Because only certain people are being impacted.

 

StubbornThings

(259 posts)
19. Pence will be just as bad as Trump at detaining and rounding up POC.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 03:48 PM
Feb 2017

That's my opinion. And, acting like you know me ain't gonna change that.



BumRushDaShow

(128,874 posts)
20. There's nothing in my post that claims I know you
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 03:55 PM
Feb 2017

My issue is that the longer he is there, the worse it will be for our democracy in the long term - for future Presidents, not just the next election, because of the flagrant violations of ethics and the Constitution that are not being investigated, and the willful and repetitive attacks on the press in order to discredit it completely.

Pence is dangerous but he is not bombastically violating protocol.

I have posted before that this country's system of government operates strictly on an honor system. We are fast approaching that time when the "honor" is completely torn down and the house of cards will collapse. The sooner he is out of there, the easier it will be to keep the protocol portion of the "honor" intact. I am sure that Indiana probably has a pile of stuff on Pence as it is.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
4. Let the Russia stuff keep coming in
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 09:59 AM
Feb 2017

He's 5 weeks in and 30% think he should be impeached while 47% think he's violated the Constitution? Not good for the 5th week of his Residency.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
6. It says 56% of GOP and 30% of Indies wanted to impeach Pres. Obama!?
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:13 AM
Feb 2017

Is their sampling is seriously skewed to uninformed Fox News denizens?

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
7. Just another misleading poll from Public Religion Research Institute.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:26 AM
Feb 2017

They have a bunch of bullshit immigration polls too.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
10. The longer he's in office, and the more the Repugs cover for him...
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 11:52 AM
Feb 2017

...the more seats we'll win down the line.

That is, though, provided that we're not a smoking crater in the ground by then.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
13. Or
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:46 PM
Feb 2017

If folks go out & vote because they finally get it. They should have voted long ball and not principle/purity last November. If only they had listened to Bernie, Warren, Obama & HRC.

Texin

(2,595 posts)
11. Why do you all suppose this is?
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:18 PM
Feb 2017

We saw the same phenomenon back in - what was it now - about seven or eight years ago in Wisconsin after Scott Walker began sacking the state's union-backed workers? There looked to have been sufficient enough support at that time to oust him on a recall vote, which failed eventually, because the voters of WI didn't have the stomach for sacking a newly-elected governor, who has only doubled-down on his hardline rethug politics.

And here we see it at play today. I remember back to the Watergate era, and I do recall at that time that Nixon had only just really been reelected when everything began to emerge about what happened back in the summer of '72 and the subsequent coverup that did lead to his resignation in the face of certain of bipartisan support of impeachment. I can't remember whether the majority of voters supported impeachment or not. I sort of vaguely remember that most still didn't, but the movement was growing by the day by the time he threw in the towel. Is it simply that voters don't want to go through the ordeal of this lengthy and tumultuous exercise in democracy? Did the voters in WI, and today, really hope that a recently-elected leader would just voluntarily resign his duties rather than put the state, in Walker's case, and the country in Nixon's case, through this process? Is this what's going on now with a majority of people. Is this simply because people have grown campaign weary or that he only just assumed his responsibilities?

Given that Walker is STILL in office, the odds don't look that the orange dictator-wannabe is going anywhere either, unless there is such an avalanche of revelations involving illegal activity (of which there are already boatloads of it to choose from). The longer this cretin is able to weather the storms, the worse the chances are of him being either impeached or resigning his duties, and the better chance he and his fellow Nazis have in jackbooting his policies into place and cementing American Apartheid.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
12. But...
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:42 PM
Feb 2017

If trump et al come after their Social Security, Medicare, Medicare & the ACA, I bet we see more folks wanting impeachment. Personally, the thought of pence as president is just as sickening. He's a radical, religious RWNJ repub. Evangelicals were promised pence if they voted for trump. Religious repubs are the worst. What hypocrites!

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
15. I'm not familiar with that polling organization
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 02:04 PM
Feb 2017

But I do know fear of Pence and others in the line of succession prevent some from supporting impeachment.

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
16. Since you would need to get the Repugnants on board to support impeachment its probably
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 03:05 PM
Feb 2017

better to just use Trumps actions against the Repugnants and force "them" to bring impeachment to the table rather than giving them a free out as they were the ones that painted themselves into this corner and they deserve every bit of the blame for it.

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