Trump tweets wildly misleading comparison of the national debt in his first month to Obama's
Source: Business Insider
On Saturday morning, President Donald Trump took to Twitter to point out a fact he thought the media was underreporting: the decrease in the national debt in his first month.
"The media has not reported that the National Debt in my first month went down by $12 billion vs a $200 billion increase in Obama first mo(nth)," tweeted Trump.
The tweet, which echoes something Herman Cain said on Fox News' Fox & Friends an hour before, doesn't make sense for a few reasons.
First, it is true that the debt has probably ticked down but as noted by the Atlantic's David Frum, this is mostly due to the federal government rebalancing its intra-governmental holdings. Debt outstanding to the public has barely budged since Inauguration Day.
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Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tweet-on-national-debt-in-first-month-under-obama-stock-market-2017-2
The article goes on to point out that
1) the current figures are due to a budget passed before the Trump admin started, so he has little to do with it, and
2) "most importantly, the economic circumstances during his and Obama's first month in office are vastly different."
Link to the David Frum tweet mentioned in the article:
Link to tweet
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,000 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)they never mention that the debt increased so much not because of increase spending rather the lost of incoming revenue from the millions losing their jobs as Bush flushed 8 million jobs downt the toilet as he left teh White House.
Botany
(70,501 posts)He put the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq back on the books ..... bush & Cheney
had run them off the books w/something called suplementals (? I think that is right)
The real debt was much greater then the #s used by bush & Cheney
We were in the middle of a blinding economic nightmare and Obama spent
money in order to save people and our economy
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Fucking right wing talking point .... Obama was a big spending liberal running up the debt.
Our deficit was $1.4 trillion in 2008 before Obama came into power
It is now $441 Billion
BTW It took 10 seconds with google to show much of this idea Trump is pushing comes
from Brietbart I would put a link up to the article but I won't give Brietbart the clicks.
Brietbart headline.
No, President Barack Obama Did Not Cut the Deficit by Two-Thirds
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Trump is still running against Obama/Clinton ..... he really is nuts
underpants
(182,788 posts)W&Co also made ridiculous debt forecasts (that literally no one could reconcile) and then set record levels of debt BUT it was lower then their forecasts so the called it a win and the press reported it dutifully.
bush and Cheney were lying about the #s.
underpants
(182,788 posts)I've run out of free NYT articles this month
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028707061
joshdawg
(2,647 posts)Tanuki
(14,918 posts)I live in Tennessee, and I am pretty sure the info you just posted will come in handy this very day.
Botany
(70,501 posts)Besides they always have BENGHAZI!
George II
(67,782 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,783 posts)What specific actions of yours accomplished this feat?
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)He is busy raising the debt, travelling to Florida for his "feel good rallies" EVERY damn weekend!! Also, his nude "model" wife flies seperately from NY to join him for appearances sake. She looks like she would rather be ANYWHERE else but with him.
keithbvadu2
(36,783 posts)Trump: 'I would rarely leave the White House'
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/245884-trump-i-would-rarely-leave-the-white-house
I would rarely leave the White House because theres so much work to be done, Trump, 69, tells ITK. "I would not be a president who took vacations. I would not be a president that takes time off.
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Yes, I would live in the White House because its the appropriate thing to do, he says.
randr
(12,412 posts)DK504
(3,847 posts)to Flynn asking about what a weak dollar meant.
This dude is so fucking ignorant, not just stupid, but willfully ignorant, he doesn't even realize that President Obama kept him solvent during the near Depression. Disabusing him of his stupidity painfully moment by moment and point by point might wake up a few people to what a lying sack of shit this guy is.
"The tweet, which echoes something Herman Cain said on Fox News' Fox & Friends an hour before, doesn't make sense for a few reasons."
Wuddles440
(1,121 posts)years (God help us, if the serves his full term), I would not trust any economic information from this administration and would expect some destabilization of both domestic and world markets due to their manipulation.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,182 posts)and increase infrastructure spending, while cutting taxes, the deficit and the national debt will explode.
Eugene
(61,874 posts)So, either our president wants to add creative accounting
to alternative facts, or he lacks the critical thinking capacity
of a ten-year-old. Neither prospect is appealing.
BumRushDaShow
(128,898 posts)I.e., the federal government is STILL operating under a Continuing Resolution, which mandates that agency spending remain at fiscal year 2016 levels. And in the case of CRs, funding to agencies only gets allocated monthly at 1/12th the rate of what is expected for the year.
The CR goes until April 28th and I haven't heard a peep out of Congress and whether they have any appropriations for FY17 even ready to vote on yet.
In addition, let's see what happens even BEFORE the CR is up for renewal (and a shutdown occurs if it's not extended or is replaced with regular appropriations), when it's time to raise the debt ceiling (estimated to happen some time next month), which could mean default if it's not done.
progree
(10,902 posts)... Trump, as becomes more apparent every day, creates his own data when the facts dont suit him. (See: greatest electoral victory since Reagan, widespread voter fraud, highest murder rate in 45 years, unreported terrorist attacks, etc.) And economic policy is highly dependent on the best possible understanding of whats going on.
Trump is preparing a budget that predicts the economy will grow by around 3.5% per year for the next several years, according to a Wall Street Journal report. Mainstream forecasters like the Congressional Budget Office, the Federal Reserve and private research outfits think thats way too high, and expect growth closer to 2% per year. The Trump administration hasnt yet published its forecasts, which will be part of the 2018 federal budget Trump must submit to Congress in a few weeks
... Trumps economic proposals so far rely heavily on supply-side assumptions about tax cuts and infrastructure spending producing a big boost in growth.
Trumps team is already looking into ways to restate trade deficits that would make them sound worse than they are, ... ((that little trick is explained in the article, which will no doubt be used to justify trade wars -Progree))
....Trump is not like other presidents. His contempt for data and science is unprecedented. He dismisses facts that are irrefutable. And he has made promises, such as 3.5% economic growth, that reality may not abide.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-plan-to-declare-victory-on-the-economy-194250110.html
And Newman goes on to explain how bad economic assumptions can be ((and likely will be)) used to justify bad economic policy ...
As for Bush's supply side tax cuts, they "failed to produce a notable boost in growth, and simply added to the national debt."
BumRushDaShow
(128,898 posts)what with the debt ceiling debacle and all.
(or will it be a debacle? )
bucolic_frolic
(43,142 posts)never to be let out again
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)So get the misinformation out NOW that the media is LYING about the ND and then him and the CONS just keep making up a figure that keeps it below 20 Trillion. I'll eat this fucking computer if I'm wrong which I KNOW I'm not.
Here's the FACTUAL number I recorded,along with many other key figures the minute Chump was being sworn in:
$19,961,833,300,255
Hate to break it to you Trump but 19,978 is MORE than 19,961.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)These lies and half truths from the President of the United States of America?
LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)in the WH.
Turbineguy
(37,322 posts)That way people will know you're the prezident.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)And the MSM three billion in his free advertising keeps growing.