Pence: 'No One Is Going To Fall Through The Cracks' In New Health Care Law

[DonViejo]

Source: Talking Points Memo


By MATT SHUHAM PublishedMARCH 1, 2017, 9:50 AM EDT

Vice President Mike Pence said Wednesday that President Donald Trump sought a health care plan that ensured “no one is going to fall through the cracks,” including Americans who received health care under the Medicaid expansion authorized by Obamacare.

Pence appeared Wednesday on ABC’s “Good Morning America,” where George Stephanopoulos asked him if Trump “can guarantee that everyone who has coverage now won’t lose it" under a new health care law.

“I think the President’s made it clear to Congress that, particularly when it comes to the most vulnerable population, George, the Medicaid population, we don’t want anyone to fall through the cracks,” Pence replied.

“And you heard him mention tax credits last night,” Pence continued. “What the President wants the Congress to do is to create a framework for people to be able to afford coverage. And then lastly, you heard him talk about creating a national marketplace, allowing Americans to buy health insurance across state lines, focusing on lowering the cost of health insurance, rather than mandating that people buy government approved health insurance.”

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[SharonAnn]

1. Right! And I believe that just like I believe the rest of Trump's falshoods.

[Demsrule86]

2. Won't work liars...we all know tax credits are bullshit and will only help the wealthy...

We are coming for you Republicans and if we run on restoring and improving healthcare not even you gerrymander will save you.

[ismnotwasm]

3. Oh bullshit.

[briv1016]

4. He doesn't see the poor and minorities as people.

So to him "no one" will fall through the cracks.

[DetlefK]

5. Please proceed.

[Bradical79]

6. Maybe I'll be able to afford insurance

But doubt I'll be able to aford healthcare with your cheap ass garbage insurance. Two different issues. Been there before.

[yallerdawg]

8. Exactly.

A cheap plan with unimaginable deductibles and copays covers "access" - just like before.

[dalton99a]

10. +1

[bucolic_frolic]

7. Tax credits mean nothing to low income people

"a framework for people to be able to afford coverage"

Here's $2000 tax credit. Take your first $12,000 of earnings and buy
insurance to avoid the bloodletting penalty.

Feeding insurance company profits.

[PRETZEL]

19. That's exactly what it is nt

[hatrack]

9. Fuck you, you FUCKING LIAR!!

Lying sack of shit - oh boy, shitty insurance policies for everyone.

Policies that cost a shit-ton of money, and pay for nothing, with $10,000 deductibles.

Bite me, Mike - just suck it.

[Kimchijeon]

31. Hear, hear! You said it. nt

[Zambero]

11. Cracks?? What cracks???

What Pence & company actually have in store is a "chasm".

[turbinetree]

12. FU Pence (also known as Race Bannon along with your Ayn Rand side kick Eddie Munster)

your team idea of block grants will be underfunded when your fascist party controls the money flow to state.

It then become a dog it dog world for funds being handed out by the government of bribery sitting in that Congressional chair, and this idea that giving state the right to cross borders to sell insurance, that's the ticket create more dog eat dog scenarios, with VERY high deductibles and giving the recipient the proverbial sh*t sandwich, of less coverage.

Again Pence, FU and the horse you road in on, if memory serves me correctly you all ready get a retirement benefit when you first went to Congress, which can't be taken away, but you sure as hell want to attack my Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security to balance the oligarchies CEO pay and the three trillion in war debt


Medicare for everyone it lowers the cost and saves the country from insolvency


Your smoke and mirrors are not going to wash ass**** you and your sexual predator are not my president, you lost by 3 million votes

[Sunlei]

13. Republicans best off building on ACA & CUT DRUG PRICE GOUGING instead of wrecking ACA.

Republicans allow drug corps to have 10,000% profits and Insurance Corps collude with drug corps to enjoy part of those profits.

[Fast Walker 52]

14. sooner or later, they do have to actually come up with a fucking plan

right now, they are creating ridiculous expectations that they can't possibly fulfill.

[aggiesal]

15. In other words, "We don't discriminate. We hate everyone!" n/t

[rsdsharp]

16. Buying across state lines is just smoke and mirrors.

There a reason so many companies are incorporated in Delaware even if the CEO couldn't find it on a map. There is a reason most credit cards are based out of South Dakota. Those states have laws that favor the corporations and credit card companies.

The same thing will happen if insurers are allowed to sell across state lines. They will move to which ever state has the weakest laws with respect to the insured. There might be a bit more competition, as with credit card companies vying for business by giving airline miles or cash back, but where the rubber meets the road -- interest rates -- there isn't a hell of a lot of competition. Virtually all are high. The same will happen with health insurance.

[Blue Idaho]

17. Not through the cracks...

The republicans are going to willfully walk millions of Americans off the plank and into a deep dark sea of capitalist cruelty.

[KewlKat]

18. affordable care is the issue i think. vouchers wont work.

[cstanleytech]

20. Ya they won't fall rather they will pushed kicking and screaming which will probably be music to

many Repugnants ears.

[roamer65]

21. Dense is a LIAR.

[IronLionZion]

22. I wonder if they make these outlandish promises to avoid doing anything

they might put forth some BS bill that is so ridiculous that it won't pass. Then they'll spread the myth that the evil Democrats are obstructing your health care.

They will of course cut funding for everything in the ACA and Medicaid to weaken them in the meantime.

[Bengus81]

23. These asshats always say their plan guarantees "access to healthcare"

Hell...I have "access" to a new Ferrari but I sure as HELL can't afford one.

[lark]

24. There's lies then there are damn lies.

This is the later, said to confuse and to hurt people. R's are absolutely 100% not planning on people being able to keep coverage. Their plan is if you have $, you can get healthcare, and if you don't, guess the plan is for you to die or be really sick? They do not plan on subsidizing healthcare for the poor, they think they're not part of their voting bloc. they are wrong. More people in red states have very low incomes than in other states and that's where they need help the most. R';s don't even care about their own voters, except for blowing the Christian dog-whistles. They think (with evidence) they can fool the ignorant by constantly lying and twisting the truth and demonizing other media so much that trumpettes only get their news from Faux, Breitbart or InfoWars, all lies all the time kind of places.

That's why the demonize ACA so much, don't want the hicks knowing that this is a good thing. They want folks to think that ACA died of it's own weight, not their fucking around with it, so there's no choice but to cancel it. They don't want them to know they are killing the ACA so that the rich don't have to pay a few extra dollars and the working poor are even more desperate.

[defacto7]

25. Pence lies...

He lies with a pure passive agressive lie...That "ends justify the means" exo-human hyper-religio anti-reason lie.

Pence sucks.

[Freethinker65]

26. Why am I envisioning some "Trump Insurance" being one of the oprions

Totally misnamed and unregulated, but sold to the masses as a real thing like Trump University? When it is discovered to be a sham, someone walks away with a ton of taxpayer $$$, and gets hit with a minor, in comparison, fine.

[Renew Deal]

27. They'll be pushed through

[Coventina]

39. Beat me to it! n/t

[The_Casual_Observer]

28. This buying insurance across state line thing

Is completely bogus. Even though they always talk about it, it never happens because even if you could it wouldn't make any difference. All these insurance companies are national anyway.

[Vinca]

29. Unless they suddenly decide to put everyone on Medicare, millions will fall through the cracks.

They can convince their fan club otherwise, but proof is in the $2,000 tax credit for a $12,000 policy.

[Princess Turandot]

30. Do they actually think that doctors and hospitals will be stupid enough to sign up...

with Insurance-R-US in Butte, Montana? And I can't blame them. Without any regulatory authority over the insurance company in the state where the care is being delivered, they're much more likely to get put into a permanent claim-pending hold than they are to get paid. And the state of Montana's Department of Insurance is going to handle complaints coming from the residents of states that don't fund them? Sure.

They won't even know if the person sending bills to them is licensed to practice in the state where the care is delivered.

And I'm certain that Montana will be really diligent about determining if a local insurance company is adequately capitalized for all the new business coming into it!

Right now, of course, real insurance companies already sell health insurance across state lines: they do so by getting licensed by each state's insurance department.

I wonder if a state can sue over that aspect of this plan, since it is usurping a state's right to protect the well-being of its citizens.

[rgbecker]

32. Fits right in with the rest of the GOP agenda:

Sure you can buy the unregulated insurance policy and we're working on the regulations that require cars to have seat belts, air bags, low emissons, safe tires, 5 mph bumpers, safety glass...oh, and by the way, it will be less expensive and soooooo much better.

Everyone will be happy!

[Skittles]

33. gawd he is such a GOP PIMP, pushing BULLSHIT

and he calls himself a CHRISTIAN

[Solly Mack]

34. I wish Pence, Trump, Bannon, the GOP, etc. would all fall through a crack.

A bubbly little sinkhole that just gobbles them up completely. Once settled we could place a marker that says - Here lies nothing and nobody - and make it a Pokestop.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

35. They'll convert the cracks into gaping holes and we'll fall through those instead. n/t

[jack69]

36. The whole floor will crumble.

[haele]

37. They won't fall because the GOP intends to push them

Easier for petty dictators to maintain control if the can get rid of as many "unproductive" people who need good governance to survive and thrive.
Dictators like it when everyone who can't buy a position of comfort and power is too busy working to stay alive and doesn't have time or energy to think of question the status quo. So, if you can't afford to pay for your healthcare, if you're too hurt, sick or old to work, well - you're no longer valuable enough to keep alive.

Facism thrives on promises of Free-dumb to the masses who are forced to live and work for the State.

Harele

[area51]

38. Pence, you, Trump & Pres. Bannon

are such fscking liars.

[MrScorpio]

40. Of course, not. Cracks are too small

They're going to fall through CANYONS!