Day 1: Zinke rescinds Obama officials phase-out of lead bullets, fishing tackle
Source: Spokane Spokesman-Review
THURSDAY, MARCH 2, 2017, 12:14 P.M.
HUNTING-FISHING -- Today, on his first day on duty, Department of the Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke (pronounced ZINK-ee) issued two secretarial orders. One withdraws a controversial order signed by an Obama administration official to phase out use of lead bullets and lead fishing tackle on federal wildlife refuges.
The two secretarial orders include:
Secretarial Order No. 3346* overturns the recent ban lead ammunition and fish tackle used on Fish and Wildlife Service lands, waters, and facilities. The order highlights the need for additional review and consultation with local stakeholders.
Secretarial Order No. 3347** advances conservation stewardship, improves game and habitat management, and increases outdoor recreation opportunities by directing bureaus and agencies to immediately identify areas where recreation and fishing can be expanded. The order also requests input from the Wildlife and Hunting Heritage Conservation Council and Sport Fishing and Boating Partnership Council to provide recommendations on enhancing and expanding access on public lands and improving habitat for fish and wildlife.
"Outdoor recreation is about both our heritage and our economy," Zinke said. "Between hunting, fishing, motorized recreation, camping and more, the industry generates thousands of jobs and billions of dollars in economic activity.
It' curious and perhaps enlightening to note that Zinke singled out motorized recreation without mentioning the significant national interest in nonmotorized recreation.
* https://www.doi.gov/sites/doi.gov/files/uploads/order_no._3346.pdf
** https://www.doi.gov/sites/doi.gov/files/uploads/order_no._3347.pdf
Read more: http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2017/mar/02/day-1-zinke-rescinds-obama-officials-phase-out-lead-bullets-fishing-tackle/
Hat tip: Zinke's Twitter feed:
Today I signed two secretarial orders to expand #hunting #fishing and #recreation on #publiclands. https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/day-one-secretary-zinke-signs-orders-expand-access-public-lands
Link to tweet
[div class"excerpt"]The new interior secretary just rode into work on a horse
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/03/02/the-new-interior-secretary-just-rode-into-work-on-a-horse/
By Juliet Eilperin March 2 at 1:24 PM
Arriving on horseback Thursday, newly minted Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke pledged he would devote more resources to national parks, boost the morale of department employees and bolster the sovereignty of American Indian tribes. ... Zinke who was confirmed by the Senate on Wednesday by a 68-to-31 vote rode with a nine-person mounted police escort to the Interior Departments downtown headquarters on Tonto, an Irish sport horse. The horse, a bay roan gelding standing just over 17 hands tall, is normally kept in stables on the Mall and is owned by the U.S. Park Police. ... While the Park Police serve as the interior secretarys regular security detail, officers are typically not mounted.
Within hours of his arrival Zinke signed two secretarial orders, including one that overturned* the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services guidance to agency managers to phase out the use of lead ammunition and fishing tackle on national wildlife refuges by 2022. Several gun rights and hunting groups had objected to the policy, which was instituted just before Barack Obama left office, on the grounds that non-toxic copper and steel shot is somewhat more expensive.
In the new directive, Zinke wrote, I have determined that the Order was not mandated by any existing statutory or regulatory requirement and was issued without any significant communication, consultation, or coordination with affected stakeholders.
Advocates of the previous order, however, noted that it set in motion a five-year consultation process between federal officials and the states. Lead poisoningwhich takes place when fragments of shot are consumed by scavengers or absorbed into the surrounding environmentis estimated to kill between 10 and 20 million birds each year, along with other species. ... Zinkes second order** aims to expand access to public lands for outdoor recreation and fishing.
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Juliet Eilperin is The Washington Post's senior national affairs correspondent, covering how the new administration is transforming a range of U.S. policies and the federal government itself. She is the author of two booksone on sharks, and another on Congress, not to be confused with each otherand has worked for the Post since 1998.
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* https://www.doi.gov/sites/doi.gov/files/uploads/order_no._3346.pdf
** https://www.doi.gov/sites/doi.gov/files/uploads/order_no._3347.pdf
Freethinker65
(10,010 posts)alarimer
(16,245 posts)Freethinker65
(10,010 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,999 posts)If they thought about it, the "dominion" over the earth requires stewardship and that does not mean ripping it all up and disturbing the peace everywhere.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)Never mind lead poisoning of fish and wildlife. For a bunch of bullshit reason, these folks have opposed eliminated lead for years.
They can and do use copper, which is many ways is better, but they just want to say "fuck you" to environmentalists out there.
https://undark.org/article/lead-ammunition-bullets-hunting-copper/
Whats clear is that previous field analyses have shown that hundreds of lead fragments one study counted a total of 738 can extend as far as 18 inches from a lead bullets path through an animal, well outside the range where hunters typically trim. Scientists have also warned that lead in those discarded gut piles can poison eagles and other wildlife that seek them out for food but the concerns surrounding lead ammunition arent limited to hunting. Lead bullets used in target shooting by military personnel, law enforcement officers, and the public, has been found to pollute soil and water around some outdoor shooting ranges, as well as the air and surfaces of indoor ranges when not properly cleaned or ventilated.
The continued use of lead in ammunition, environmental and public health advocates say, remains an under-appreciated and preventable source of exposure to the toxic heavy metal for millions of Americans. They argue that the evidence of real and negative impacts is so overwhelming, in fact, that the lack of more aggressive regulation borders on the absurd, if not downright negligent. A good bullet should not kill twice, said Carrol Henderson, a hunter and an educator with the Department of Natural Resources in Minnesota.
luvMIdog
(2,533 posts)The ultimate maniacal narcissist
madokie
(51,076 posts)now they're going to spend all their time undoing every thing he did get done in spite of them. What a class act they all are. F.U.C.K.
remind me how we got here
luvMIdog
(2,533 posts)MBS
(9,688 posts)JudyM
(29,233 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,999 posts)alarimer
(16,245 posts)Because it accumulated in the bodies of the prey they ate and then magnified up the food chain.
It's why it affected mostly fish-eating birds, like eagles (which are opportunistic feeders really, but often a lot of fish), pelicans and osprey. DDT doesn't stick around on land too much but washes into the water, where it works its way up.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,999 posts)alarimer
(16,245 posts)To fight mosquito-borne illnesses.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Hunters, fishers, and other recreational users can be potent allies in the move to preserve public lands from development or other forms of commercial exploitation. At the same time, there's an obvious tension between people who want to protect all wildlife and those who want to kill some wildlife or use habitat in potentially destructive ways.
Botany
(70,500 posts)dbackjon
(6,578 posts)FUCK ANYONE THAT DIDN'T VOTE FOR CLINTON
FUCK ANYONE THAT VOTED ANYTHING BUT DEMOCRATIC.
YOU ARE THE ENEMY.
Paladin
(28,253 posts)Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)Why would someone want to use one?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)To spite Obama is all I have.
Judi Lynn
(160,524 posts)They only live to destroy.
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Nice boots, dipstick.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,412 posts)I tried looking it up in an old (46th Edition, 1965 - 1966) CRC, but Wikipedia says it's 11.34 grams per cubic centimeter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Density#Various_materials
Copper has lower density, and it costs more. Gold and platinum have higher density, but they cost a lot more. Lead hits the sweet spot.
A bullet needs kinetic energy to be effective.
In classical mechanics, the kinetic energy of a non-rotating object of mass m traveling at some velocity v is 0.5(mass)(velocity squared) or 0.5(m)(v squared).
So whatever you can do to up the mass or the velocity will give a moving bullet more kinetic energy.
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)Thanks
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)The excuse is that copper and steel is a tad more expensive? Thousands of Americans have already been poisoned for life with horrid consequences by lead that used to be spewed into the air at gun ranges until banned in the 80's. Not to mention there is a reason lead is no longer in gasoline.
What utter morons. Even the wildlife federations and gun folk must see how they are working against themselves just so they can undo anything Obama did out of spite.
ffr
(22,669 posts)Put lead into the environment where it doesn't naturally exist and you get birth defects and worse, up and downstream.
We may not have known before, but we know now and we should act smarter than this.
turbinetree
(24,695 posts)ducks eat lead weights off the bottoms of lakes and rivers, because dips**t they are bottom feeders of lakes and rivers, and when they get shot they get lead pellets into there bodies, and I guess you didn't know this, but lead weights drop off fishing lines and they do decompose zippy navy seal guy, from Montana.
Boost more moral dickh**d at the National Parks and your going to all by your self righteous self going to boost the moral of Indigenous People and give them their rights back for sovereignty-----------really. And how about all of those off-road Bundy clan boys and there compatriots just going on the public land to decimate Indigenous People sacred sites, and then we have the wolf, being killed in Utah, because of some f**ked up law, they shoot them because they thought they were something else, and they hurting the cattle industry--------------FU.
I guess you haven't heard huh, that your illegitimate sexual predator president said that he was going to "clear" the pipelines, and create "thousands of jobs-----------right.
The right wing fascists republican party governor and the two feckless U.S. Senators and legislatures (both federal and state) in ND, thought that the sheriff, highway patrol, the national guard and private contractors for some f***ing energy company and there financial backers didn't think the Sioux,Cheyenne or Lakota had any rights, nope they thought rubber bullets, and water cannons were a f**Ing right to use on "HUMAN BEINGS, and now your going to "boost moral>
FU, I'll say it again, FU and the horse you road in on.
Well dips**t t let's start here for example, then you can go to the "treaties" that were signed by your racist government, and just done exactly what with them, ignore them, they don't mean squat?
I know lets divert a pipeline from a city because they need clean water and just put it near a "reservation" without any f**king over site, they don't need any stinking clean water or sacred burial grounds, but your ilk look for "GREED":
http://standwithstandingrock.net/
https://www.redcloudschool.org/reservation
You look like the "guy" that has that doofus smile on his face when he is sitting in chair trying to hurt human beings with his self righteous hate, and he has hair it looks like a orange peel
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)EarthFirst
(2,900 posts)It has everything to do with expanding recreational areas to increased motorized vehicles in the backcountry.
The 'Sweatpants Crew' won't walk any further than they need to, so in order to experience nature they need to ride into it and destroy it by leaving their mark on the countryside.
They already have a network of tens of thousands of trails in the parks system. Why do they feel the need to have unfettered access to ALL ago it?
turbinetree
(24,695 posts)and then compare the first item on this right wing fascist former navy seal Montana do do list and now Sec. of the Interior:
See a pattern..............there is pattern with these fascists hypocrites
James Watts 1981-1983
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-james-watt-survives-19830609
Gail Norton 2001-2006
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-oceans-20020228
Mendocino
(7,486 posts)from the UP of MI years ago saying "These darn kids with their backpacks, they come up here with $5 and a pair of underwear and don't change either". His pet peeve was the non-motorized status of Porcupine Mountains State Park, a wilderness gem.
Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)I'm starting to think that the GOP is obsessed with erasing any sign Obama was ever in office.
Which makes me wonder if he made the flurry of orders near the end *knowing* they'd have to repeal every single one like a vampire counting seeds.
Gives the Dems time to get all the Russia scandal ducks in a row...
MBS
(9,688 posts)but everything else the new Secretary did today is a disaster.
Just when we were starting to make progress on reducing lead bullets and lead fishing tackle. .
What is the bloody POINT of this beyond revenge against the Obama administration?
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Mendocino
(7,486 posts)Zinke has Wayne Lapierre.