Another jaguar discovery in Southern Arizona adds to border-wall debate

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Arizona Daily Star

By Tony Davis Arizona Daily Star Mar 2, 2017 Updated 2 hrs ago






The discovery of a jaguar in the Dos Cabezas Mountains near Willcox marks the third time since 2015 a new one has been photographed in Arizona, and the seventh time the elusive cat species has been documented in Arizona or New Mexico in the last 21 years.

But this new addition to the region’s known jaguars, disclosed Thursday, does little to quell the longstanding dispute between state and federal biologists and conservationists over their significance in Arizona. The discovery has also amplified environmentalist concerns about President Trump’s plans to build a fence or wall spanning the entire U.S.-Mexican border.

The jaguar was photographed in the mountain range near Willcox in November by a trail camera run by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management. But the photo’s existence wasn’t discovered until recently, the Game and Fish Department said in announcing the jaguar finding.

Game and Fish said five biologists have determined this jaguar was a different animal from one photographed in December 2016 and January 2017 in the Huachuca Mountains, and one photographed from 2011 to 2015 in the Whetstone and Santa Rita mountains.


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[lastlib]

1. Um, it's a dog....*

* Several years ago, we had a mountain lion in my pasture, less than 300 feet from my house. It sat down out there, and I got a video recording of it. Later showed the video to a state conservation agent, who really didn't want to investigate it, so he declared it to be a dog. Idjit--I saw it CLEARLY! It had a feline snout, a feline body, a feline tail, it walked like a cat, sat like a cat--it was a f*ckin' CAT!

But since he didn't want to be bothered to look into it,--meh, it's a dog....

[HoneyBadger]

3. Sounds like Connecticut

Mountain lions have been reported for decades, the "experts" denied it, til one was hit by a car. Can't deny it anymore. The same will happen with Bigfoot some day.

[StarryNite]

2. tRump's border wall

would screw up the migration of wildlife including the beautiful jaguars. I hope his trophy hunting sons don't get wind of the sightings.

[Judi Lynn]

5. They are all thieving, murderous parasites. They don't deserve respect. n/t

[Devil Child]

4. Bad Hombre

I'm sure Trump will twist this into another tale of predators from South of the border to further his agenda.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

6. Free the Jaguar. Lock the Jag-off up.

[iluvtennis]

7. +100nt

[Kali]

8. This is pretty close to me.

I have a kooky neighbor who swears he saw two of them on our place (and a lot of other bizarre things)

maybe he was right!

[Metsie Casey]

9. He can jump it or climb

They have the power. Beautiful cats.

[Thor_MN]

11. Jump a 20 foot wall topped with razor wire?

Maybe they can, but why should they have to? They already face human created barriers, we don't need to add additional ones that serve no purpose except drain taxpayer money into *45's construction company accomplices.

[HoneyBadger]

12. Animals are funny that way

Cheetahs in fenced game preserves thrive because they figured out how to use the fences to hunt. They drive their prey into the fence. I imagine that a jag could use the height of the wall to spot and attack non climbing prey like peccary.

[Thor_MN]

13. While perched on a reel of razor wire?

I don't imagine that there would be any nice surface at the top of a security wall...

[HoneyBadger]

14. Depends on what the wall looks like

I am not under the impression that razor ribbon is used very much on the existing border fence, but I certainly could be wrong.

http://www.businessinsider.com/somebody-tried-to-drive-over-the-us-mexico-border-fence-2012-11

[Thor_MN]

15. Trump's wall would have razor wire festooned on the top.

It's all about keeping out those bad hombres... At least that is what we would be billed for, what would actually be there is entirely another thing.

[HoneyBadger]

17. It is possible, wonder why they do not use it now? Seems like a minor incremental expense

That would have prevented this......

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028744307

[Thor_MN]

20. Are you really comparing reality to date with Trump's bat shit plan?

The current walls, such as they exist, are nothing in comparison to what Trump wants to build. You are comparing apples to bowling balls.

[HoneyBadger]

21. Yes I find reality easier to hotlink to

Especially when linked in DU threads

[Thor_MN]

22. Well, considering that the OP is regard to Trump's border wall plan

You seem to be off topic...

Must be kind of hard to never refer to the future, always stuck in the past, never venturing beyond the present...

[LuvLoogie]

10. But they're illegal jaguars, eating our rabbits and coyotes

[Calista241]

16. This is awesome.

Big cats, and their habitat, need to be protected and preserved.

[IronLionZion]

18. Wildlife cross the border back and forth all the time

to feed and move on to greener pastures. It's what animals do. The wall disrupts natural ecosystems.

[Paladin]

19. Something else for those shithead trump sons to shoot. (nt)

[AngryAmish]

23. Mexico is not sending their best jaguars.

They are bringing claws. They are bringing teeth. And some, presumably, are good cats.