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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 11:45 AM Mar 2017

Ex-DNI Clapper: 'To My Knowledge' No FISA Order For Trump Tower Surveillance

Source: Talking Points Memo


By ESME CRIBB Published MARCH 5, 2017, 10:07 AM EDT

Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said on Sunday that to his knowledge there was no FISA court order to implement surveillance on Trump Tower, counter to President Donald Trump's claims on Saturday.

In an interview on NBC News' "Meet the Press," Clapper said that he did not know of any FISA court order to authorize surveillance on Trump Tower.

"Obviously I can't speak officially anymore, but I will say that for the part of the national security apparatus that I oversaw as DNI there was no wiretap activity mounted against the President-elect at the time, or as a candidate, or against his campaign," he said. "I can't speak for other Title III authorized entities in the government, or a state or local entity."

"If the FBI, for instance, had a FISA court order of some sort for surveillance, would that be information you would know?" Chuck Todd asked.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/former-dni-james-clapper-no-fisa-order-trump-tower

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Ex-DNI Clapper: 'To My Knowledge' No FISA Order For Trump Tower Surveillance (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2017 OP
REGARDLESS if there was a wiretap Obama did NOT order it. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #1
This is a blatant right-wing lie. Forget the "regardless." Hortensis Mar 2017 #16
If Trump actually found a wiretap it was in all probability put there by the Russians randr Mar 2017 #2
Good meme, though I doubt tRump found anything. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #11
At this point he could produce a rats nest of wires and his minions would taste blood randr Mar 2017 #13
tRump found it! Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #14
Leaves open the possibility that the tap was on the other end of the conversation. n/t CincyDem Mar 2017 #3
Or there was no wiretap at all and this is just another trump deflection/projection PSPS Mar 2017 #8
Exactly. We'll get story back to Russia Scandal. Despite diversion tomorrow: immigration ExecOrder Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #12
BREAKING: Former DNI James Clapper: I Can Deny Wiretap of Trump Tower riversedge Mar 2017 #4
Classic disinformation pecosbob Mar 2017 #5
Wait for it! It's going to be GOP pimp James O'Keefe bungling another wiretap. keithbvadu2 Mar 2017 #6
The part Clapper left out - DURHAM D Mar 2017 #7
Of course there would not be a warrant for A BUILDING. rzemanfl Mar 2017 #9
Clapper is the one guy who would know- This should help to debunk Trump's lying accusation wishstar Mar 2017 #10
We need a FISA court order to listen in when an American gets on the line? yallerdawg Mar 2017 #15
Does this rule out a wiretap of communications between the Alfa bank server pnwmom Mar 2017 #17
In the same interview he says there was no collusion found between Trump campaign and Russians madville Mar 2017 #18

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
1. REGARDLESS if there was a wiretap Obama did NOT order it.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 11:47 AM
Mar 2017

Here we fucking go again, it is Kerry is a traitor and W is a war hero all over again.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. This is a blatant right-wing lie. Forget the "regardless."
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 02:11 PM
Mar 2017

The claim is that Obama was spying on Trump. Distant chance that some rogue in the intelligence community could have, but extremely unlikely, and that's not the claim. Note that the nutso-wing radio host who started this is backing off, no longer has "proof" and is "not Nostrodamus."

"Neither President Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any U.S. citizen."[/div

I really miss the security of having a balanced and principled president. But it's fine with me if we investigate.

riversedge

(70,085 posts)
4. BREAKING: Former DNI James Clapper: I Can Deny Wiretap of Trump Tower
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 11:49 AM
Mar 2017


I was just going to post this---so will put it in anyway






BREAKING
Politics
Mar 5 2017, 10:14 am ET


Former DNI James Clapper: ‘I Can Deny’ Wiretap of Trump Tower




http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/former-dni-james-clapper-i-can-deny-wiretap-trump-tower-n729261

by Kailani Koenig

WASHINGTON — Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper on Sunday denied any suggestion that Trump Tower communications were wiretapped before the election.

For the part of the national security apparatus that he oversaw, "there was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president, the president-elect at the time, or as a candidate, or against his campaign," Clapper told Chuck Todd in an exclusive interview on Sunday's "Meet The Press."
[Clapper: 'I Can Deny' Wiretap of Trump Tower]
Clapper: 'I Can Deny' Wiretap of Trump Tower 1:10

When Todd asked him whether he could confirm or deny if a FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court Act) order for this existed, Clapper declared, "I can deny it."

Asked again whether there was a FISA Court order to monitor Trump Tower, Clapper said, "Not to my knowledge."

Clapper said that if any wiretap like that occurred, he would "certainly hope" that he would be aware of it. .............................

keithbvadu2

(36,666 posts)
6. Wait for it! It's going to be GOP pimp James O'Keefe bungling another wiretap.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 11:50 AM
Mar 2017

Wait for it! It's going to be GOP pimp James O'Keefe bungling another wiretap.


DURHAM D

(32,606 posts)
7. The part Clapper left out -
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 11:51 AM
Mar 2017

"But naturally we were monitoring all the Russians and all Russian banking activity"

rzemanfl

(29,554 posts)
9. Of course there would not be a warrant for A BUILDING.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 11:51 AM
Mar 2017

The warrant would be directed at a "U.S. person" or persons.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
15. We need a FISA court order to listen in when an American gets on the line?
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 12:32 PM
Mar 2017

Does Britain? Does Germany? Does Israel? Does Canada?

Do Russian hackers? Do Russian kompromat officers? Do dead Russians accused of treason?

Does our intelligence community interact with over many, many other foreign government intelligence agencies and "leakers" of every variety?

Obama? What a joke.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
17. Does this rule out a wiretap of communications between the Alfa bank server
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 02:36 PM
Mar 2017

and unnamed persons in the US? (which is what some reports have said.)

madville

(7,404 posts)
18. In the same interview he says there was no collusion found between Trump campaign and Russians
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 01:51 AM
Mar 2017

So he is also supporting the idea that all the Russian claims are baseless as well.

And there was the time he "forgot" about the Patriot Act.

And the time he stated under oath that there was no data being collected on US citizens (until the Snowden leaks of course, then he had to revise his testimony).

And the time he stated the all the weapons of mass destruction were moved out of Iraq shortly before the war started.



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