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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 12:26 PM Mar 2017

Schumer: Trump Is 'In Trouble' Whether His Wiretap Claims Are True Or Not

Source: Talking Points Memo


By ESME CRIBB Published MARCH 5, 2017, 11:21 AM EDT

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said Sunday that President Donald Trump is "in trouble" whether his claims that President Barack Obama's administration obtained a wiretap on Trump Tower are true or not.

"If he falsely spread this kind of misinformation, that is so wrong," Schumer told Chuck Todd on NBC News' "Meet the Press." He said that doing so is "beneath the dignity of the presidency" and "really hurts people's view of government."

"On the other hand, if it's true, it's even worse for the President," he said. "Because that means that a federal judge, independently elected, has found probable cause that the President, or people on his staff, had probable cause to have broken the law or to have interacted with a foreign agent."

"So either way, the President makes it worse with these tweets," Schumer said. "And either way, Chuck, the President's in trouble."



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Schumer: Trump Is 'In Trouble' Whether His Wiretap Claims Are True Or Not (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2017 OP
There is no "if" in "If he falsely spread this kind of misinformation" dalton99a Mar 2017 #1
Exactly. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2017 #4
+1000 BadgerMom Mar 2017 #13
it smacks of something out of the Karl Rove playbook diva77 Mar 2017 #26
He's just slow-rolling the information so that we can get an extra few days of disastrous coverage. joet67 Mar 2017 #28
The Democratic Tsunami starts in 2017. lagomorph777 Mar 2017 #33
OMG this stuff is getting posted fast! mobeau69 Mar 2017 #2
We love you Chuck! caroldansen Mar 2017 #3
You might want to add "Schumer" just so there's no confusion on which Chuck. mobeau69 Mar 2017 #6
Chuck Chuck bo-buck Cirque du So-What Mar 2017 #9
Thank you. That was very cute! But it was for a reason I said it that way. And we love you, too! caroldansen Mar 2017 #10
Sounds like a Trollist type Answer......... Cryptoad Mar 2017 #16
It did but. littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #22
Schumer has an orderly mind BeyondGeography Mar 2017 #5
I don't think Trump is claiming that Obama sought a legal wiretap. DUFan Mar 2017 #7
Nothing revealed DownriverDem Mar 2017 #12
Excellent. Pithy and to the point. 'nuff said. erronis Mar 2017 #14
Russia Scarsdale Mar 2017 #19
From what I understand elmac Mar 2017 #24
He's preemptively framing it for his pods Cosmocat Mar 2017 #25
Then he has to prove it.... paleotn Mar 2017 #27
Agree - that's what I think NewJeffCT Mar 2017 #31
That seemed rather telling that there indeed is a FISA warrant... Ellipsis Mar 2017 #8
We all know DownriverDem Mar 2017 #11
Chuck is spot on, the central point is that Trump is in trouble randr Mar 2017 #15
Chuck who? Cryptoad Mar 2017 #17
Which Chuck? Canoe52 Mar 2017 #23
"If"??? SHRED Mar 2017 #18
"....are true or not" ?????????????? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2017 #20
And there's this... Loge23 Mar 2017 #21
Interesting- and he's been conducting inner-circle weekend meetings at Mar a Lago wishstar Mar 2017 #29
With all the leaks, I am surprised he is going back to the WH in DC. riversedge Mar 2017 #30
yep, either way he is in trouble! Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #32

diva77

(7,640 posts)
26. it smacks of something out of the Karl Rove playbook
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 03:29 PM
Mar 2017

Rove’s Science of Dirty Tricks
Posted on Aug 14, 2007

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20070814_roves_science_of_dirty_tricks

snip... —In 1986, while working for Texas Republican gubernatorial hopeful William Clements, Rove claimed that Rove’s personal office had been bugged, most likely by the campaign of incumbent Democratic Gov. Mark White. Nothing was proved, but the negative press, weeks before the election, helped Rove’s man win a narrow victory. FBI agent Greg Rampton removed the bug, disrupting any attempt to properly investigate who planted it....snip

joet67

(624 posts)
28. He's just slow-rolling the information so that we can get an extra few days of disastrous coverage.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 06:30 PM
Mar 2017

Plus, it takes a long time for the dimwits that vote republican to digest it all. That's fine with me. The longer we can drag this out, the closer we are to 18, and certain gains. Plus, that shortens the time Pence will have to do his own type of damage to our country.

Not a chance in hell Pence can ever get elected on his own, so he needs to be knee-capped from get-go.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
33. The Democratic Tsunami starts in 2017.
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 03:31 PM
Mar 2017

VA and NJ are having major statewide elections.

Get your butts to the precincts this year, VA and NJ Dems!!

littlemissmartypants

(22,632 posts)
22. It did but.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 02:55 PM
Mar 2017

I am a Pollyanna. It reminded me of high school.

Chuck cheese? Chuck who? Chuck which?

If you don't watch the video the reference is lost and it's confusing to the reader. The side note of the child's rhyme reference is a pressure valve, imo. If we don't find the incongruity in the situation we may spontaneously combust.

I would like to offer the point that the background information on the video needs clarification.

Thank you for the post Cryptoad.

DUFan

(62 posts)
7. I don't think Trump is claiming that Obama sought a legal wiretap.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 12:43 PM
Mar 2017

He said in his tweets yesterday that this was a Watergate style illegal bug or wiretap. He is accusing Obama of breaking the law and spying on him. I think something has been revealed to Trump, something that he thinks no one could know about unless they learned it by spying on the rooms and phones at Trump Towers.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
19. Russia
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 01:50 PM
Mar 2017

Maybe he WAS bugged - by Russia to make sure he was following orders. Maybe his wife had him bugged, preparing for a divorce? Maybe her father did it, to cozy up to Putin. There are all kinds of possibilities. If he has nothing to hide, why is he so freaked out? Was his Russian pee-pee party discussed?

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
24. From what I understand
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 03:15 PM
Mar 2017

tRump was responding to a tweet from one of the wingnut talkshow hosts claiming that Obama had his phones tapped.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
27. Then he has to prove it....
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 03:55 PM
Mar 2017

...Oh! There was a FISA warrant? That's interesting. What's in it? Wait....for additional leaks about a FISA warrant(s), the reasoning behind the warrant(s). And more importantly what was discovered during the investigation. What a fucking idiot. The moral of this story is, when you'd rather something NOT be made public, don't fucking go there! Also, don't go out of your way to piss off the IC community. With a little work, they can figure out what agent orange had for breakfast on Feb. 17, 2015.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
31. Agree - that's what I think
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 11:21 AM
Mar 2017

he's going to claim that Obama secretly and illegally wiretapped Trump Tower and went behind the FBI, CIA, NSA or whoever and maybe had a few loyalists help him bug Trump Tower, a la Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
8. That seemed rather telling that there indeed is a FISA warrant...
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 12:43 PM
Mar 2017

... in how he phrased his answers and looked at the camera.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
11. We all know
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 01:18 PM
Mar 2017

This is more about diverting our attention away from trump et al, jeff sessions and the Russian connections. Bannon is behind this diversion crap too.

randr

(12,411 posts)
15. Chuck is spot on, the central point is that Trump is in trouble
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 01:30 PM
Mar 2017

The alleged wiretaps are a diversion.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
21. And there's this...
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 02:17 PM
Mar 2017

The orange menace has not been back at the tower since the inauguration. Coincidence? I think not.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
29. Interesting- and he's been conducting inner-circle weekend meetings at Mar a Lago
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 06:59 PM
Mar 2017

He is paranoid and probably thinks Mar a Lago a safer place for coordinating their most devious plans (esp. Russian stuff)

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