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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 01:45 PM Mar 2017

GOP Sen. Mike Lee Says O'Care Repeal Bill Is 'A Step In The Wrong Direction'

Source: Talking Points Memo


By ESME CRIBB Published MARCH 7, 2017, 12:38 PM EDT

Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) said on Tuesday that House Republicans’ draft legislation to repeal and replace Obamacare is "a missed opportunity and a step in the wrong direction."

"This is not the Obamacare repeal bill we’ve been waiting for," Lee said in a statement. "We promised the American people we would drain the swamp and end business as usual in Washington. This bill does not do that."

Lee, who spearheaded a 2013 campaign to defund Obamacare, criticized a provision in the draft legislation that would replace Obamacare's federal insurance subsidies with a new form of individual income-based tax credits.

"We don’t know how many people would use this new tax credit, we don’t know how much it will cost, and we don’t know if this bill will make health care more affordable for Americans,” he said.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mike-lee-republican-healthcare-proposal-is-step-in-wrong-direction

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GOP Sen. Mike Lee Says O'Care Repeal Bill Is 'A Step In The Wrong Direction' (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2017 OP
"My entire Senate Career is based on this repeal, waaaaa" maxsolomon Mar 2017 #1
He knows it will make health care unattainable for many and more expensive for the rest! Dustlawyer Mar 2017 #2
Obviously! lark Mar 2017 #3
Jeez. This came from out of the blue. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #4
No....he's going along with that Rand Paul group of 101% insane Republicans.... Bengus81 Mar 2017 #15
Disgusting not fooled Mar 2017 #17
A "tax credit" insurance is a non-starter angrychair Mar 2017 #5
RIGHT? Cosmocat Mar 2017 #8
It's not some fucking misstep. Orsino Mar 2017 #6
It is 7 years of a dog chasing its own tail (THEIR FORM OF HEALTH CARE REFORM) Cosmocat Mar 2017 #9
"Drain the swamp and end business as usual?" C Moon Mar 2017 #7
this is big Skittles Mar 2017 #10
Most of the teabaggers in both chambers BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #11
The tea baggers may actually help Obamacare stay tammywammy Mar 2017 #12
Yup, ironically enough. BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #14
I didn't even think they wanted the tax credits........... Bengus81 Mar 2017 #16
The poor and working class can't afford to pay up front and hope for a tax "credit" later.... Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #13

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
2. He knows it will make health care unattainable for many and more expensive for the rest!
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 01:51 PM
Mar 2017

"We don't know..." yes you do!!!

lark

(23,083 posts)
3. Obviously!
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 01:52 PM
Mar 2017

If the Repugs knew anything about health care, it wouldn't have taken them 7 years to try and begin to replace it. However, they know nothing and so begot this ignorant bill that will prevent so many people from getting health care, especially a few years out. They made it so the worst of the bad effects from the vouchers won't be felt for a few years, like after the next election. After that, they'd actually prefer that we don't have healthcare and die off quickly so we don't vote against them.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
4. Jeez. This came from out of the blue.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 02:18 PM
Mar 2017

Lee sounds fucking reasonable! What is THAT about?

Maybe he swallowed an overdose of Metamucil?

His comment about the tax credit is appropriate. They aren't designed to be used. They're designed to be missed, obfuscated, hidden, or just plain forgotten.

The GOP assumption behind this is their version of personal responsibility: citizens can use the tax credits on their yearly tax forms to get the money for the insurance. Usually, this means that an individual will be REIMBURSED for his insurance premiums. Where an individual gets the money for premiums while waiting for the tax credits is part of the magic of present day conservatism. They just don't concern themselves with those surly details. In the end, insurance customers will have to do it all themselves as individuals while the GOP can eliminate another function of government as outlined in the Preamble: something about promoting the general welfare.

There is a form of Social Darwinism in the assumptions regarding tax credits to cover insurance costs: if you don't have the capability of fending for yourself, then you are kicked under the bus. If you are not prone to engaging in the details of tax forms, the likelihood of you NOT applying for the tax credit increases. On a massive scale, that likelihood means less in government outlays for tax credits-- and, BTW, more human tragedy downstream. For the disabled, there surely will be dire consequences.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
15. No....he's going along with that Rand Paul group of 101% insane Republicans....
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 09:09 AM
Mar 2017

They just want to repeal the ACA NOW with nothing in it's place. Do it NOW,and then sometime later we'll get around to a much better plan----yeah right you will.

Rand Paul and the other POS in that group and 100 time worse than the other Republicans.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
17. Disgusting
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 05:59 PM
Mar 2017

The backers of dumpcare are a mix of koch-bots like Lyin' Ryan who believe that "we can't have government help people so we have to kill the ACA before people like it too much (guess what--it's too late, assholes)" and racist Obama-haters who want to obliterate every trace of his legacy. dump falls more into the latter camp, I suspect. Both are frothing at the mouth to enact dumpcare, people be dammed.



angrychair

(8,686 posts)
5. A "tax credit" insurance is a non-starter
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 02:33 PM
Mar 2017

Nothing else in it matters. A tax credit does not solve the inherent issue with affordability and cost containment.

Not only does this do nothing to solve the issues with the ACA, it creates a whole host of other problems.

This is a serious, unadulterated clusterfuck.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
6. It's not some fucking misstep.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 02:34 PM
Mar 2017

This is the culmination of seven or eight years of Republican time-wasting and lobbyists' lies.

It is a statement of (a lack of) intent.

Cosmocat

(14,561 posts)
9. It is 7 years of a dog chasing its own tail (THEIR FORM OF HEALTH CARE REFORM)
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 03:13 PM
Mar 2017

finally catching it and realizing it is attached to their asses.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
7. "Drain the swamp and end business as usual?"
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 03:05 PM
Mar 2017

The GOP was going to do this? That's a frigging laugh-and-a-half!!

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
10. this is big
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:18 PM
Mar 2017

you get one or two repukes with just a tiny bit of courage to stop goose-stepping and it may encourage more to snap out of their fascist mindset

BumRushDaShow

(128,731 posts)
11. Most of the teabaggers in both chambers
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 05:45 PM
Mar 2017

(including Lee in the Senate) consider the House bill DOA as it doesn't eliminate "Obamacare". And they are putting their foot down on that.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
12. The tea baggers may actually help Obamacare stay
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 09:16 PM
Mar 2017

Since they don't want anything but a full repeal and tax credits only. They won't vote for something like DonTcare.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
16. I didn't even think they wanted the tax credits...........
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 09:13 AM
Mar 2017

All they want to see is this plan that works well for the 20-30M that truly need it thrown in the dumpster so that black guy no longer gets credit. THEN in the next year or two they might get around to working on a replacement. We all know that will NEVER happen.

That IS the Rand Paul plan--and those that go along with him in a nutshell.

Kimchijeon

(1,606 posts)
13. The poor and working class can't afford to pay up front and hope for a tax "credit" later....
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 09:34 PM
Mar 2017

especially for bloated premiums on garbage health "coupon" insurance with criminally high deductibles.
No way. We will just see more deaths, more debt/bankruptcy from medical costs. (add suicide to that basket too...)

From what I can find, apparently Minnesotacare, which was around long before the ACA, will have no funding by 2020, so my family will be unable to have coverage!? I am so pissed off right now!
https://mn.gov/dhs/aca-repeal/

I guess that gives us some time to figure out where we're going to go, we can't afford to stick around here if we can't even have a basic human right without going bankrupt. Fuck that. I honestly don't know what we are going to do. (Speaking for my household)

I have no faith that this will be restored, the healthcare profiteers are too powerful, I'm afraid we are all just fucked.



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