Dems threaten to pull support if Russia probe not 'legitimate'

[TomCADem]

Source: The Hill

Some Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee are threatening to pull support from the investigation into Russia's interference in the 2016 election if it is not conducted in a "legitimate" manner.

"I'm not going to be part of a dog-and-pony show that is not a serious effort to do an investigation, because this is really serious,” said Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.), according to The New York Times.

“If it’s not a legitimate and comprehensive and in-depth investigation, why would we be party to it?” she added.

“Most of us would agree that there’s no way we’re participating in any form of cover-up or whitewash, so we will walk away if the moment requires,” said Rep. Jim Himes (D-Conn.) while adding that “we’re certainly not there yet.”

The Democrats are reportedly fearful that the committee probe could become heavily entangled in party politics, preventing any substantive investigation from taking place.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/323546-dems-well-pull-support-from-russia-probe-if-its-not-done-legitimately

[truthisfreedom]

1. Fake probe...

[ffr]

5. I'm like you, betting there will be partisan politics thrown into the mix, favorable to Rump

[StarryNite]

2. Yup

"The Democrats are reportedly fearful that the committee probe could become heavily entangled in party politics, preventing any substantive investigation from taking place."

Those fears are warranted.

[red dog 1]

3. So what if the Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee "pull their support"?

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Nunes and the other committee Republicans will still be able to avoid any real investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 elections, or into Trump's ties to Russian interference in the 2016 elections, because they don't NEED any Democrats to "support" them.

They control the House Intelligence Committee, and they control both houses of Congress as well.

Here's proof of what's to come as far as the House Intelligence Committee's investigation is concerned:
"GOP House Intel head Nunes: Fired advisor Michael Flynn should be 'thanked' for secret talks with Russians"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141726147



K&R, thanks for posting

[defacto7]

13. just for added heartburn...

Let's not forget that the GOP and red states are trying to put together a constitutional convention to rewrite the constitution as we speak... so if that happens nothing matters.

[red dog 1]

16. Does the GOP have 34 state legislatures willing to call for such a constitutional convention?

[FakeNoose]

20. Don't worry that will never happen

The Constitution cannot be rewritten.

The only thing they could do is draft an Amendment, but it would be extraordinarily difficult to get it passed.

It's not gonna happen in Trump's lifetime.

[defacto7]

21. I truly hope you're right..

It seems the monied ones have bought their way closer to the number of states needed and in one of the three ways to call the convention there aren't too many limitations. I'm no constitutional lawyer though.
But I would probably use a different analogy than you used.... I'm not convinced he's going to be around too long.

[babylonsister]

4. So what will Dems do then? nt

[truebluegreen]

6. Send a sternly-worded letter no doubt.

[abchar17]

7. Emoluments!

Russia probe is taking so long and is mired in partisan politics. Yes Trump is probably guilty of collusion with Russia, but he is also guilty of violating the Emoluments Clause in the constitution. He just got a ton of trademarks from China, more than anyone has ever received at one time. He has not properly divested from his businesses, foreign dignitaries are staying in his Trump hotel down the street from the White House to curry favor. He is directly profiting off the presidency while in office, and taking money from foreign entities. I think these violations are more clear cut and less subject to nuance than the Russia story.

[babylonsister]

8. Yes, there's another hook that

needs to be investigated. Actually there are a lot. Too shady by half, but I do hope the Dems are relentless.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028681027
Dahlia Lithwick - This Emoluments Thing Isnt Going Away

And welcome to DU!!

[Jarqui]

9. Didn't they just fire all the US Attorneys who might have brought those charges?

[babylonsister]

10. Yes, I suppose they did.

I can think of one beyond reproach who might be available...

Honestly, I don't know how this will shake out.

[SayItLoud]

11. Better have PLAN B

If Dems pull out they better have a solid plan to get an investigation that is unbiased and deep. They need a PR media strategy long before they walk to energize voters to PROTEST. It must be a well thought out plan not knee jerk and cross the aisle to convince on the fence Repubic's that there's something rotten in the WH between tRUMP and Russia and Flynn and ManaFart etc. AND THE LEAKS NEED TO FLOW before they walk.

[Vilis Veritas]

12. What about a petition to the UN signed by concerned Americans asking for help?

I know it's dumb...I just don't know what can else can be done if the people on our side are disarmed and basically powerless.

Except, more protesting and that won't end well if they do go full on fascist.

Peace

[red dog 1]

17. What could the UN do to help?

Pass a non-binding resolution?

More protesting might help if the numbers are as high as the Women's March on Washington.

Where is the Occupy Movement?

How about an "Occupy the Republican Party" or "Occupy the White House"....or both?

[Generic Brad]

14. It won't be legitimate

The day after the election my wife told me "We just woke up in Russia". And so we have.

For months I have been lamenting the end of America as we knew it. And the events of each passing day only solidify my perception.

We are living under an authoritarian regime that is posing as a democracy. Hell, even Trump may not even realize he has assumed the mantle of dictator. Groups of us are in physical peril for trying the GOP's patience whether we admit it or not. As a nation we are rapidly approaching the point where the mask of the regime slips off once and for all and we collectively acknowledge it's game over.

[Kimchijeon]

18. I agree with you.

[mrmpa]

15. About 5 years ago.............

I co-taught a class of SEIU members "non violent confrontation". It was a lot of fun & the most important thing we taught was that each person had to make a decision on what they personally wanted to accomplish.

We also discussed how those that wanted to be arrested could accomplish that without being physically harmed. We taught through role play how to stand up to the Police & Security Guard.

[briv1016]

19. I'm sure the Republicans are really broken up about it.