Trump loyalists sound alarm over RyanCare, endangering health bill

[TomCADem]

Source: MSN/Washington Post

A simmering rebellion of conservative populists loyal to President Trump is further endangering the GOP health-care push, with a chorus of influential voices suspicious of the proposal warning the president to abandon it.

From headlines at Breitbart to chatter on Fox News Channel and right-wing talk radio, as well as among friends who have Trump’s ear, the message has been blunt: The plan being advanced by congressional Republican leaders is deeply flawed — and, at worst, a political trap.

Trump’s allies worry that he is jeopardizing his presidency by promoting the bill spearheaded by House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (Wis.), arguing that it would fracture Trump’s coalition of working- and middle-class voters, many of them older and subsisting on federal aid.

Vice President Pence and administration officials scrambled Tuesday to salvage the plan amid widespread dissatisfaction in both the Senate and House over the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate that 24 million fewer people would be insured in a decade under the Ryan proposal, titled the American Health Care Act.

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Okay, is it Trumpcare or Ryancare? If this is such a great bill, why aren't they eager to own it?

[Dopers_Greed]

2. The bill won't pass

It's a total albatross, and everyone knows it.

Or, maybe except for Chump, because he's too stupid to know it.

[Merlot]

4. But they'll keep trying.

They did 65 bills to repeal the ACA, they aren't going to stop just becaue this one bill doesn't pass. Destroying the social safety net is the repub dream.

[cstanleytech]

10. I suspect what the Repugnants will do will be to force Obamacare to fail by cutting its knees off

via funding cuts then they will proudly claim thats its proof that they were right that it would fail even though the failure will be entirely engineered and caused by them.

[Mars and Minerva]

12. If they don't fix Obama Care and make it work....

they are toast. If they try to just let it die, they are still going to have to own it. Where is the health care that they and Trump promised? Do they really think that letting people's health care deteriorate for a few years and then trying to shove their shit bill down our throats or just leaving us with nothing is going to endear them to their voters?
Sorry. This is a lose, lose. For them and for us.

[cstanleytech]

14. Oh their PR arm like fox and Breitbart will completely ignore those aspects and support the

Repugnants just as long as whatever happens causes pain and suffering for enough people especially the poor, elderly and disabled.

[not fooled]

20. They've been saboteurs for a long time

cutting funding to programs they don't like, then pointing the finger when things go wrong. Figuring out the cause-and-effect and reporting on it seems beyond the attention span of corporate media and most voters. pukes therefore escape consequences for their insidious actions.

[mdbl]

21. the whole election was a lose lose

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for everyone! Some idiots just don't realize it yet.

[Mars and Minerva]

24. I was just talking to one of my few Trumpy clients about Trump Care.

She's a bit on the greedy and stupid side although she is talented and makes about $100,000 a year as an art director (I know this because she once mistakenly emailed me all of her tax information for ten years).
Anyway, her Brother is 50 and on Medicaid and Disability, her mother barely exists on S.S., Medicare and Medicaid for home health care assistance and both her sisters are in their early 60s and getting subsidies through Obama Care. She has her insurance through her company. She tells me that she might quit her job and work freelance again. I told her..."better wait and see if you can insure yourself" she's 56 yrs old.
Her entire family could be paddling up Shit's Creek and all she can say is the Trump says his plan is going to make things better.

[mdbl]

25. She sounds really bright!

for a dim bulb.

[Mars and Minerva]

28. The Basket of Deplorables are varied and obnoxious. nt

[RainAndMoreRain]

3. Even Trump Voters Are Smart Enough To Know They Will Be Cut Off

I know that isn't saying much.....

[cstanleytech]

11. Trump voters smart? ROFL

[mdbl]

5. Sorry but if trump were worried about jeapordizing his presidency,,,

he wouldn't be putting together the most fascist cabinet in our nations history.

[msanthrope]

6. Keep passing that turd, fellas. nt

[harun]

7. Only groups supporting this are a few Conservative 1%'rs. In other words McConnell and Ryan donors.

[Dustlawyer]

9. +1!!! THIS

The root cause of most of our problems is the campaign bribes our politicians get to vote against our interests.

Until and unless we all join together to proclaim, NO MORE, we will continue to get screwed! This should be our #1 issue!!!!

[Kimchijeon]

18. Disgusting shills for the healthcare industry

bought and paid for.

[Hamlette]

19. more important, how much have they taken from the insurance industry?

both make a fortune on the sick but it seems insurance had the biggest voice when the ACA was passed.

It is all so depressing.

[mdbl]

22. Let's call em the twins

they are both identically evil.

[Hortensis]

8. Sounds like The Great Rupture is in process. :)

Trumpster populists, who want better social programs, versus Ryan/Koch anti-tax/anti-regulation extremists determined to destroy all government programs. Christian reconstructionists seem mostly allied with the latter, but a lot of their base are with the former. Bannon's with all three groups, and none of them; but the greater the civil unrest and destruction of our governing structure, the better for his interests.

That's not to say they won't patch it up for a while, but this has seemed inevitable. Note that Ryan's camp managed to stuff Rump's cabinet with a lot of their people. They have a lot to gain by keeping Rump pacified and a lot to lose by failing. Two months into the 45th administration...

[SayItLoud]

13. tRUMPcare NOT RyanCare

Get it right. Brand him with it.

[Kimchijeon]

17. I know right! Nice try fuckers... tRUMP is the stinker

(Although tbf Ryan is a huge turd as well)

[moonscape]

27. I'm divided on this. On the one hand I agree, on

the other I think there will be plenty to sink T, and I don't want the Repubs to be able to blame everything on him. Ryan is the one legislating all this stuff, he needs it to stick to him. He'll be around to do increasing damage long after T is gone, and I definitely don't want him to be Pres one day! "Remember RyanCare?"

[leftynyc]

15. LOL - and here is Ryan

telling everyone degenerate donnie helped write it. I love when the clowns start eating eachother.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141728701

[briv1016]

16. 19 states have yet to expand Medicaid.

Democrats should be introducing expansion bill in all of these legislatures. Let's use this momentum to really help these people in need.

Plus, it'll make the numbers even worse for them the next time they try to repeal. And there will be a next time.

[mdbl]

23. probably tomorrow.

[guillaumeb]

26. The irony:

Trump’s allies worry that he is jeopardizing his presidency by promoting the bill spearheaded by House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (Wis.), arguing that it would fracture Trump’s coalition of working- and middle-class voters, many of them older and subsisting on federal aid.

The GOP base that supposedly hates Federal entitlements, except of course when they are the recipients.

[Mc Mike]

29. Turn on each other. Backstab like there's no tomorrow, repugs.