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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 09:55 PM Mar 2017

Search warrant reveals deplorable conditions in Natalie Finn's home

Source: KCCI Des Moines TV Station

WEST DES MOINES, Iowa —
Search warrant documents obtained by KCCI 8 News detail the deplorable conditions inside a West Des Moines home where a 16-year-old girl died of malnutrition.

Trial set for parents of girl found starved to death


State senator calls Natalie Finn's death worst he's ever seen


The documents reveal that the children were kept in a room with no beds, and that boards were nailed over the home's windows because the children had been sneaking out of the house "panhandling for food down the street at a convenience store."

Authorities released documents pertaining to a search warrant executed at Nicole Finn’s home following the death of her daughter, 16-year-old Natalie Finn.


Read more: http://www.kcci.com/article/search-warrant-reveals-new-details-in-natalie-finn-case/9137248



Natalie was home schooled and was found starved to death wearing a diaper.

The Video is very troubling, such a beautiful young woman. Who wouldn't want her in their home?

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Search warrant reveals deplorable conditions in Natalie Finn's home (Original Post) grantcart Mar 2017 OP
... shenmue Mar 2017 #1
No Words. salin Mar 2017 #2
. Achilleaze Mar 2017 #3
K&R for exposure. n/t Tarheel_Dem Mar 2017 #4
Who does this? sheshe2 Mar 2017 #5
Indeed - who does this? Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2017 #6
I haven't heard of this case yet, and haven't read the DM Reg article. My educated guess? politicat Mar 2017 #10
:( Solly Mack Mar 2017 #7
From another article, school said she had gone to school dirty, shoeless, hungry. Judi Lynn Mar 2017 #8
Do this to 3 kids and you go to jail. lagomorph777 Mar 2017 #9

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,781 posts)
6. Indeed - who does this?
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 12:57 AM
Mar 2017
Nicole Finn, 42, is facing a charge of first-degree murder for Natalie's death and several other felonies for her treatment of two of Natalie's siblings, a 15-year-old boy and a 14-year-old sister. All three children were adopted. Finn's ex-husband, Joseph Finn, 46, is facing several charges of kidnapping, neglect or abandonment and child endangerment.


{Nicole}Finn described her late daughter as a troubled teenager with a mental health disorder, telling the investigators that Natalie and two of her siblings would go to the bathroom on the floor in the home "out of spite and defiance," Morgan wrote. Joe Finn confirmed in his own interview with investigators that he had recently removed carpeting in the bedroom where Natalie was found and replaced it with linoleum "because it was so soiled by the bodily waste from the children," the application said.

The father admitted to investigators that he helped to nail shut a window on the bedroom after the siblings were caught sneaking out to beg for food at a convenience store near the home. Joe Finn said the children lived full time with their mother, but were allowed to visit him and had greater freedoms when they were with him.

"Joe stated that when the kids came to his residence they were allowed to use the restroom and eat food unsupervised, which was contrary to the rules in Nicole's home," Morgan wrote.


http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2017/03/15/teen-who-starved-death-found-diaper-linoleum-floor-court-documents-reveal/99213932/


politicat

(9,808 posts)
10. I haven't heard of this case yet, and haven't read the DM Reg article. My educated guess?
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 01:20 AM
Mar 2017

1) She was adopted, probably out of foster care.
2) Parents are conservative, evangelical Christian.
3) The subscribed to the Debbie and Michael Pearl theory of religiously motivated child abuse.
4) They claimed she had a severe mental health disorder, probably "reactive attachment disorder".
5) She was homeschooled after some time in school.
6) She tried to escape, multiple times. Other people around her found her kind, bubbly, open and knew she was having some kind of trouble, but not the extent.
7) Every comfort or necessity they took away was for some "infraction" of an unreasonable rule.
8) Most of those rules were never even articulated.
9) The only doctors they saw, if any, were those who specialize in "reactive attachment disorder".
10) If CPS was ever involved, they believed the abusive parents and ignored the child, probably because the kid long since figured out that CPS almost never believes the children.


.... reading articles.....

1) Yes.
2) not sure.
3) not yet known, but nailing windows shut and removing furniture and denying bathroom access are part of the Pearl method.
4) Probably, am expecting it as a trial strategy, since the lawyers have already made statements about severe mental health disorder. (RAD does exist. It doesn't exist the way a subset of adoptive parents think it exists, and it's nowhere near as common as they claim.)
5) Yep.
6) Yep.
7) Probably, especially since one child seems to have been favored and wasn't subject to this.
8) Probably.
9) Not yet known, but likely.
10) Yep.


THIS IS NOT RARE. It happens regularly, most often with adopted children, because we have a cultural narrative that children who are adopted are lucky and should be grateful that they weren't aborted and aren't in foster care. When an adopted child acts like a normal kid and rebels, or pushes limits, or fails to perform perfectly the first time, or just fails to be as obsequious, obedient and deferential as the adoptive parent(s) faulty belief system wants, the problem is not that the child is a child and an independent human being, but that they are broken. And there is a whole conservative Christian industry built around telling these parents that there's nothing wrong with their parenting and everything is wrong with the child. This is one of the legacies of the forced-birthers and they work very, very, very hard to keep the abuse of adopted children quiet. We hear about it when a child dies; what we don't hear about are the child-trading email lists (yes) and the informal foster/relinquishment system, and the abused kids who manage to run away or survive until they can leave.

Perhaps there were times when she did choose not to eat. It was the only aspect of control over her own life left to her. When this is done in a political context, it's called a hunger strike. When you're sixteen and your parents are abusive...

I hope her siblings are getting the care they will need, and I hope they're in a setting with much stricter scrutiny. After their adoptive parents are convicted, I hope the children are allowed to have that legal procedure reversed if they so choose.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
7. :(
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 03:08 AM
Mar 2017

Cruel and brutal don't quite seem strong enough.


I must admit that the word microcosm comes to mind. Especially today.

Judi Lynn

(160,449 posts)
8. From another article, school said she had gone to school dirty, shoeless, hungry.
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 01:27 PM
Mar 2017

[center]

Adoptive "parents"



Rest in peace, Natalie. [/center]
Lawmaker: Case workers didn't take abuse reports seriously before teen starved
Lee Rood , lrood@dmreg.com Published 5:50 p.m. CT Jan. 25, 2017 | Updated 9:38 a.m. CT Jan. 26, 2017

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/investigations/readers-watchdog/2017/01/25/lawmaker-natalie-finn-case-iowa-workers-didnt-take-abuse-reports-seriously-before-teen-starved/97051964/


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