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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:22 PM Mar 2017

Trump Now Says U.S. Military 'Should Never Ever Have Left' Iraq

Source: Talking Points Memo


By MATT SHUHAM Published MARCH 20, 2017, 5:58 PM EDT

Contrary to a series of past statements on the issue, President Donald Trump said Monday that the U.S. military “should never ever have left” Iraq in 2011.

“Certainly we shouldn’t have left. We should never ever have left,” Trump told Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi at the White House. “And a vacuum was created, and we discussed what happened.”

“But we’ll spend a lot of time with you, with your group, and thank you all very much for being here, we appreciate it,” Trump continued. “And we will figure something out. Our main thrust is we have to get rid of ISIS. We’re going to get rid of ISIS. It will happen, it’s happening right now."

Trump has a rich history of changing opinions on the war in Iraq. He was for the United States’ 2003 invasion of the country before his opinion changed somewhat, first evidenced in a 2004 Esquire interview ("Look at the war in Iraq and the mess that we're in. I would never have handled it that way.”)

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-says-us-military-should-not-have-left-iraq



Iraqi Prime Minister Jokes: 'We Had Nothing To Do' With Wiretaps

By ESME CRIBB Published MARCH 20, 2017, 4:17 PM EDT

Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi joked on Monday that his country "had nothing to do" with wiretaps, a subject Trump raised more than two weeks ago and has refused to back away from.

"We had nothing to do with the wiretap," Abadi joked in front of reporters, according to a White House pool report.

FBI Director James Comey on Monday told the House Intelligence Committee that he had "no information" to support Trump's unsubstantiated claims that President Barack Obama wiretapped Trump Tower before the 2016 election.

"I have no information that supports those tweets," Comey said. "And we looked carefully inside the FBI."

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/iraqi-prime-minister-we-had-nothing-to-do-with-wiretap
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Trump Now Says U.S. Military 'Should Never Ever Have Left' Iraq (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2017 OP
No doubt he's calling on his extensive military experience to reach that conclusion Siwsan Mar 2017 #1
He already said he knows more than HIS Generals. Submariner Mar 2017 #4
Historically, that has never worked out particularly well, for the self-appointed military expert Siwsan Mar 2017 #6
Five deferments can teach you a great deal about miltary service.... lastlib Mar 2017 #22
Easy for Mr. Bone Spur to say BeyondGeography Mar 2017 #2
Over 4,000 of our soldiers never did, you hamhock! Aristus Mar 2017 #3
Need an invasion to distract from his criminal ties SummerSnow Mar 2017 #5
Your reply is right on. Wellstone ruled Mar 2017 #8
Oh RiGHT, mr. cheney! elleng Mar 2017 #7
Never should have gone in Angry Dragon Mar 2017 #9
Great, Donald... jmowreader Mar 2017 #10
Please tell us all about your rich understanding of the events of that process. mahina Mar 2017 #11
And he was ALWAYS opposed to going into Iraq, too. He sez, all the time. Nt Mc Mike Mar 2017 #12
As Commander in Chief C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #13
We left Iraq because the govenment of Iraq The_Casual_Observer Mar 2017 #14
How long before ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #15
He's saying the troops stood have stayed even though the Iraqi government wanted them gone? Ken Burch Mar 2017 #16
Ignorant demented asshole dalton99a Mar 2017 #17
That was not our call. Iraqis did not want us there. nikibatts Mar 2017 #18
He claimed that he was always against the Iraq war. yardwork Mar 2017 #19
Less memory that my 9yro cat with dementia... noneof_theabove Mar 2017 #20
GIVE HIM A PISTOL AND SEND HIM TO IRAQ.... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #21
It's time to take out Mad King Donald jeanmarc Mar 2017 #23
He has said this repeatedly starting with campaign and... JackRiddler Mar 2017 #24

Siwsan

(26,241 posts)
6. Historically, that has never worked out particularly well, for the self-appointed military expert
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:39 PM
Mar 2017

I'll mention Caligula, for starters.

lastlib

(23,140 posts)
22. Five deferments can teach you a great deal about miltary service....
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 10:32 PM
Mar 2017

...and military strategery (sic) and tic-tacs--I mean, tactics!

And we know how well that all works out.....


 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. Your reply is right on.
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:46 PM
Mar 2017

The Rat is cornered and he will lash out at some one just to take the heat off himself.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
9. Never should have gone in
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:46 PM
Mar 2017

and what is forgotten is that the Iraqi government told us to leave
and Bush/Cheney created Isis .............. mostly made up of out of work Iraqi army

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
10. Great, Donald...
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:48 PM
Mar 2017

I have a cute idea: if The Donald really wants to re-invade Iraq, let's throw it to a vote in Congress under the following conditions:

Condition 1: taxes will be increased to pay for the war
Condition 2: the pay of every Congressman will be reduced to that of a randomly selected Army colonel
Condition 3: Trump's pay will be reduced to that of the 45th troop to walk through the gate of a randomly-selected motor pool on Fort Hood, Texas, the morning of Monday, April 10. Further, the unit who owns the motor pool will be informed they're the one three weeks out so they can find a soldier who's willing to be temporarily busted to Private E-1 long enough to be the 45th man through the motor pool gate on April 10.
Condition 4, and this is most important: Every Member of Congress who votes for the war, every member of Trump's administration, and Trump himself will submit the names of every member of his or her family who are between the ages of 17 and 45. All those people will be immediately conscripted into the Army as privates and will be sent to the war zone.

mahina

(17,610 posts)
11. Please tell us all about your rich understanding of the events of that process.
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 07:07 PM
Mar 2017

I'm very interested to hear in his own words how he would have navigated that time, and what events and forces he thinks were or were not important.

Give the man a microphone and some follow up questions for the love of all things. And follow up some more.

He knows nothing.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
14. We left Iraq because the govenment of Iraq
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 07:17 PM
Mar 2017

Refused the terms required for us to stay there.
As usual dump is talking out of his fat ass again.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
16. He's saying the troops stood have stayed even though the Iraqi government wanted them gone?
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 07:43 PM
Mar 2017

Is he saying we should have overthrown the Iraqi government if it wouldn't LET the troops say?

That we should have stayed even though the unending U.S. military presence in the Arab/Muslim world is the main reason ISIS/ISIL/Daesh emerged in the first place?

noneof_theabove

(410 posts)
20. Less memory that my 9yro cat with dementia...
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:25 PM
Mar 2017

...The withdrawal was done by Bush. His going away present.

Pres. Obama and all the Generals in the world could not get around it.

Of course the congress-critters could have made changes but the majority there are lamer that pond scum.

jeanmarc

(1,685 posts)
23. It's time to take out Mad King Donald
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 10:37 PM
Mar 2017

By lawful means. I've never seen anyone so easily switched on opinion.

Remember, he used to be a Democrat kind of guy and actually cared about women's issues, in public.

Now, who knows what he is, but almost the entire cabinet is filled with jackals that are there to destroy departments and agencies.

And now he's switching on Iraq.

We're probably going into North Korea. We're likely trying to get permission from China to do it, but which nation is the war nation? It's us. I almost hope Germany or someone conquers us so we can stop our war tendency. Those bullets need to empty so we can make more bullets and build the military. There's just too much money invested.

We're fucked as a nation. Eisenhower was right. And we have a clueless moron as President that will sign anything in front of his face. Which is why the GOP is ignoring his insanity and salivating putting bad legislation on his desk.

I really hate this time in our country's history. It feels bad now and feels like it could get even worse so easily.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
24. He has said this repeatedly starting with campaign and...
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 11:31 AM
Mar 2017

it is part of his "take their oil" and "should have kept the oil" raps. The former phrase was already in the first official Trump commercial and should be considered programmatic. My own view is that sowing further chaos in the Middle East does something that Exxon likes: takes "their oil" off the market.

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