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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 03:36 PM Mar 2017

Mike Flynn secretly met Turkish officials to plan illegal 'dead of night' extradition of fugitive...

Source: RawStory



Mike Flynn secretly met Turkish officials to plan illegal ‘dead of night’ extradition of fugitive cleric

DAVID FERGUSON
24 MAR 2017 AT 15:29 ET

Former CIA Director James Woolsey said that he attended a secret meeting in September with ousted Trump national security adviser Adm. Mike Flynn to plan a covert operation to “whisk away” a fugitive cleric and hand him over to Turkey’s authoritarian government.

The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that Woolsey and other people present at the meeting confirmed that Flynn was coordinating with officials from the cabinet of right-wing Turkish Pres. Recep Tayyip Erdogan in anticipation of extraditing Fethullah Gulen back to Turkey should Trump win the presidency.

The “dead of night” operation was intended to circumvent normal U.S. extradition laws, Woolsey said. The meeting took place on Sep. 19, and Woolsey said he arrived late only to be startled and alarmed that the discussion was treading into potentially illegal territory.

The plan, according to Woolsey, was “a covert step in the dead of night to whisk this guy away.” Gulen is wanted in Turkey for allegedly aiding last summer’s failed military coup against the Erdogan regime.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/mike-flynn-secretly-met-turkish-officials-to-plan-illegal-dead-of-night-extradition-of-fugitive-cleric/

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Mike Flynn secretly met Turkish officials to plan illegal 'dead of night' extradition of fugitive... (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2017 OP
Holy crap! This is big. bronxiteforever Mar 2017 #1
Wow! Absolutely appalling. Hortensis Mar 2017 #17
Pulling an Adolph Eichmann. no_hypocrisy Mar 2017 #2
Exactly. dalton99a Mar 2017 #3
Gulen was a bug up the ass of some of DU's Truest Progressives...... msanthrope Mar 2017 #4
What was their gripe? salin Mar 2017 #11
i live around the corner from one of the schools. it's a fucking model school. mopinko Mar 2017 #14
Glad to hear they do well I am a fan of urban high performing schools salin Mar 2017 #16
What a great memory you have. I knew Hannah B came back, but not as HPB. Too funny. nt Hekate Mar 2017 #24
Comey do your job, arrest Flynn still_one Mar 2017 #5
Maybe he already has....? MADem Mar 2017 #32
yup, saw that MADem, thanks still_one Mar 2017 #33
More treasonous actions by Flynn - he was NOT a US official at the time. George II Mar 2017 #6
Do we know his relationship to Rump at that point? Hortensis Mar 2017 #18
Damn! PatSeg Mar 2017 #7
Whoa! Flynn is really insane! Sorceress Mar 2017 #8
And that's a well known figure putting his name to it muriel_volestrangler Mar 2017 #9
The dreaded knock on the door ... left-of-center2012 Mar 2017 #10
Flynn what we know - crack put conspiracy theorist salin Mar 2017 #12
This explains why Woosley quickly disassociated Blue_Roses Mar 2017 #13
Yep. That's what I was thinking. Tatiana Mar 2017 #22
Woosley has been around a long time and has established Blue_Roses Mar 2017 #23
and i think if you took a poll here mopinko Mar 2017 #15
Holy Mackerel! KittyWampus Mar 2017 #19
Now we are talking about felony grantcart Mar 2017 #20
There's a whole lotta felony goin' on, but now we have a verifiable one. Now if only... Hekate Mar 2017 #25
If Flynn--the mendacious ass--has half a smart bone in his body (and I suspect he does) MADem Mar 2017 #31
As illegal as this probably was matt819 Mar 2017 #21
He might be safer here though. . dem4decades Mar 2017 #26
"circumvent normal U.S. extradition laws" That's called Kidnapping? a very serious crime. Sunlei Mar 2017 #27
Mike "ANYTHING for a buck" Flynn. dchill Mar 2017 #28
Woolsey said Flynn registered him (Woolsey) as a foreign agent w/o his permission mobeau69 Mar 2017 #29
The National Enquirer (yes, the scandal rag) is throwing FLYNN under the bus. MADem Mar 2017 #30
Lock him up!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2017 #34
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
4. Gulen was a bug up the ass of some of DU's Truest Progressives......
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 03:49 PM
Mar 2017

Hannah Bell, aka HiPointDem and some other now JPR's......

Had quite the anti-Gulen streak.

salin

(48,955 posts)
11. What was their gripe?
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:07 PM
Mar 2017

I don't know much about him, but am familiar with a few schools that are associated with his followers. I found those a tad creepy, but I find numerous closed mindset organizations a tad creepy.

mopinko

(69,982 posts)
14. i live around the corner from one of the schools. it's a fucking model school.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:31 PM
Mar 2017

some folks in the hood cluck their tongues about the return of the caliphate, as if they had a clue what that even meant. but people practically camp out to get their kids in this school. (not literally. they dont do it that way.)

the school is not selective enrollment, they have a lottery system.

it has the highest college acceptance rate in the city. their kids regularly bring home honors from academic competitions, including this year's robotics comp 1st prize.
the doors are always open to the community. something happening most weekends, including missions of mercy of all sorts, and meetings of interest to the community. the alderman does all kinds of stuff there.
district schools are run by the damn janitors and getting those school house doors opened is all but impossible.

travel is a part of the curriculum, w an annual overseas trip for the 8th graders. i know they have gone to turkey several times, but i think as time went along there was interest in other places. not sure where they are going these days.

and yes this is a charter. one of 2 exemplary charters in the hood. please lets dont go down that side track. or i'll be here all night.

as far as gulen goes, he seems to me to have all the trappings of a made up boogie man. i do know he fled turkey after working against govt corruption there.

salin

(48,955 posts)
16. Glad to hear they do well I am a fan of urban high performing schools
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:46 PM
Mar 2017

the two I am familiar with preform decently, and serve an urban - under served community, which I applaud.

The creepy part (my earler term) was based on the account of a team (both female) of evaluators (hired by the schools) who worked on the accountability reports for their authorizer (in our case the Mayor's Office), and of a female teacher/friend who taught there for a couple of years. All said there was an awkward dynamic between the male school leaders who came off as controlling and dismissive. Could be just the individuals and not related to the organization. I know a lot of organizations (and schools, and heck currently our own govt) run by creepy individuals As I said, I really don't know much about the organization or Gulen.

Don't worry won't going down that side track - I helped start and lead one (also urban - also high performing) for a decade. For the reason you cite (getting sucked into an all night conversation) I usually disengage in those discussions.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Do we know his relationship to Rump at that point?
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:51 PM
Mar 2017

Perhaps he could claim he was simply acting as an (undeclared) paid agent of Erdogan.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,262 posts)
9. And that's a well known figure putting his name to it
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:12 PM
Mar 2017

Not that I have any time for Woolsey (this kind of thing should have been public before the election, even if he didn't know what Flynn's views on it were), but at least it's on the record now.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
10. The dreaded knock on the door ...
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:24 PM
Mar 2017

The dreaded knock on the door in the middle of the night,
by the Trump administration troopers,
circumventing the law.

Making America great again?

salin

(48,955 posts)
12. Flynn what we know - crack put conspiracy theorist
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:11 PM
Mar 2017

- unregistered agent of a foreign nation
- extra-legal kidnapping for hire (while advising a presidential campaign on national security)
- pals around with Putin, Russians with connections to Putin's intelligence folks, and others?

Great demonstration of what Trump thinks is an example of a highly qualified, honorable guy.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
22. Yep. That's what I was thinking.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 07:17 PM
Mar 2017
Former CIA director R. James Woolsey Jr., a veteran of four presidential administrations and one of the nation’s leading intelligence experts, resigned Thursday from President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team because of growing tensions over Trump’s vision for intelligence agencies.

Woolsey’s resignation as a Trump senior adviser comes amid frustrations over the incoming administration’s national security plans and Trump’s public comments undermining the intelligence community.

“Effective immediately, Ambassador Woolsey is no longer a Senior Advisor to President-Elect Trump or the Transition. He wishes the President-Elect and his Administration great success in their time in office,” Jonathan Franks, a spokesman for Woolsey, said in a statement.

Woolsey suggested in a pair of cable television interviews Thursday evening that he was only an informal adviser to Trump, with duties that included speaking to the journalists about Trump and his national security policies.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/01/05/former-cia-director-james-woolsey-quits-trump-transition-team/?utm_term=.0aef9a3a8a57


Yeah, right. Another person who only played a minimal role...

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
23. Woosley has been around a long time and has established
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 09:27 PM
Mar 2017

solid credibility in the intelligence community. He probably was horrified and disgusted with what he saw taking place, although it sounds like they left him out of meetings. Hmmm...so why do we think that is...

Glad he got out.

mopinko

(69,982 posts)
15. and i think if you took a poll here
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:33 PM
Mar 2017

most everyone would say that "coup" was an act of performance art and nothing more.

Hekate

(90,527 posts)
25. There's a whole lotta felony goin' on, but now we have a verifiable one. Now if only...
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:28 PM
Mar 2017

....there are a few good GOP Senators and House members to join with the Dems and clean up.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
31. If Flynn--the mendacious ass--has half a smart bone in his body (and I suspect he does)
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 12:46 AM
Mar 2017

he'll turn state's evidence and sing like a fucking canary.

Name names, play the rat fink.

It's the only hope he has to reduce his exposure to the clink.

He also needs to maintain a low profile, because someone doing that kind of thing doesn't last very long in Mother Russia. He needs a bodyguard or ten and a food taster. He'd do well to go into protective custody, but only if he can assure himself that his "custodians" have his best interests at heart. I sure wouldn't stay in any high rise buildings.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
21. As illegal as this probably was
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 06:20 PM
Mar 2017

consider also that Flynn was involved as a paid agent of the Turkish government.

Flynn might want to do some traveling soon - to a country without an extradition agreement with the US.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
27. "circumvent normal U.S. extradition laws" That's called Kidnapping? a very serious crime.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:54 PM
Mar 2017

That's what "working for a foreign government" means?

mobeau69

(11,131 posts)
29. Woolsey said Flynn registered him (Woolsey) as a foreign agent w/o his permission
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 11:10 PM
Mar 2017

at the same time (I think) that he registered himself. He was on Don Lemon tonight with Grimaldi. Plucking crazy stuff going down.

So he was paid a half million $ for what?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
30. The National Enquirer (yes, the scandal rag) is throwing FLYNN under the bus.
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 12:41 AM
Mar 2017

The National Enquirer is owned by a close friend of Trump.

They bought the story from "the mistress" (a Playboy model) about Trump's affair while Melania was pregnant with Barron. The cash paid included an exclusivity clause, so the "the mistress" couldn't flog her story anywhere else. Then, the Enquirer basically buried the story and didn't publish it. They used cash to shut someone up.

Anyway, The National Enquirer is now telling America's grocery shoppers that Flynn is a SPY.

Maddow had something on this tonight.

We can pretty much bet that came from the horse's ass....I mean, the horse's mouth.

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