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CousinIT

(9,239 posts)
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:09 PM Mar 2017

The House just voted to wipe out the FCCs landmark Internet privacy protections

Source: Washington Post

House Republicans voted overwhelmingly Tuesday, by a margin of 215-205, to repeal a set of landmark privacy protections for Web users, issuing a sweeping rebuke of Internet policies enacted under the Obama administration. It also marks a sharp, partisan pivot toward letting Internet providers collect and sell their customers' Web browsing history, location information, health data and other personal details.

The measure, which was approved by a 50-48 margin in the Senate last week, now heads to the White House, where President Trump is expected to sign it.

Congress's joint resolution empowers Internet providers to enter the $83 billion market for online advertising now dominated by Google and Facebook. It is likely to lend momentum to a broader GOP rollback of Obama-era technology policies, and calls into question the fate of other tech regulations such as net neutrality, which was approved in 2015 over strident Republican objections and bans Internet providers from discriminating against websites. And it is a sign that companies such as AT&T, Comcast and Verizon will be treated more permissively at a time when conservatives control all three branches of government.

Supporters of Tuesday's repeal vote argued the privacy regulations, written by the Federal Communications Commission, stifle innovation by forcing Internet providers to abide by unreasonably strict guidelines.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/03/28/the-house-just-voted-to-wipe-out-the-fccs-landmark-internet-privacy-protections/

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The House just voted to wipe out the FCCs landmark Internet privacy protections (Original Post) CousinIT Mar 2017 OP
The lower 99% is just a number Matthew28 Mar 2017 #1
How is a 10 vote margin an "overwhelming" vote? pnwmom Mar 2017 #2
Yeah! The editor has an agenda. KeepItReal Mar 2017 #5
I think the writer was using the 230 -180 preliminary vote, then when the final vote came in, Mc Mike Mar 2017 #12
House Republicans voted overwhelmingly rpannier Mar 2017 #32
exactly...wow, what a dick. nt JCanete Mar 2017 #47
"Unreasonably strict guidelines" my ass.... these bastards want to profit off my health records groundloop Mar 2017 #3
Good idea! MarcA Mar 2017 #15
So you pay for your Internet, and then the greedy bastards sell your browsing history KeepItReal Mar 2017 #4
DU is not https and it should be. Worktodo Mar 2017 #6
Try HTTPS Everywhere klook Mar 2017 #41
Great we fucking lost another battle. And from what I read, this is irreversible. NICE. retrowire Mar 2017 #7
This will result in lawsuits They_Live Mar 2017 #8
THEY really don't fucking care... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #44
How do they justify tths to their constituents ?What's the spin here ? nocalflea Mar 2017 #9
They don't bother. They change the subject or run some bafflegab about "innovation". . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #13
And yet , our elected leaders expect us to be innovative on a bare minimum budget. nocalflea Mar 2017 #16
Abortion. Gay Marriage. Bathroom Security rpannier Mar 2017 #33
Oh, gawd. This is getting worse and worse. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #10
Because billionaires have your best interests at heart. You can sleep warm & fuzzy at night on that. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #11
Gerrymandering passed it in the House, but where was the Senate filibuster? MarcA Mar 2017 #14
They're saving their energy for when they fold on Gorsuch. nocalflea Mar 2017 #17
No. See post #35 onenote Mar 2017 #36
Senate consideration of a resolution of disapproval is not subject to filibuster onenote Mar 2017 #35
Thank you for the explanation MarcA Mar 2017 #37
So, now's the time to take recommendations on the varying VPN offerings out there. MADem Mar 2017 #18
This is probably worthy of an OP n/t blaze Mar 2017 #19
A VPN thread would be great! Equinox Moon Mar 2017 #23
We really need this! ThingsGottaChange Mar 2017 #29
should be good for another 1000 points on the DOW elmac Mar 2017 #20
The rules had been blocked a month ago. onenote Mar 2017 #22
I'm calling my ISP in the morning to see if they will allow an Opt-out. Equinox Moon Mar 2017 #21
you can't opt out of the law mdbl Mar 2017 #39
THE WEASEL WORM THAT TRUMP APPOINTED TO CHAIR THE FCC dawn frenzy adams Mar 2017 #24
I have a small local company as my ISP Alt-Orange Mar 2017 #25
What is the significance that this is a "joint resolution"? NT mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2017 #26
I guess these ass holes forgot MontanaMama Mar 2017 #27
Is there no veto protection for any of this legislation? PuppyBismark Mar 2017 #28
Rump has the veto power mdbl Mar 2017 #40
Last weeks vote tally in the Senate. amerikat Mar 2017 #30
Screw the Second Ammendment, what about the 4th's Rights of Privacy? LakeArenal Mar 2017 #31
I think we need an intellectual property or trade secret approach BadgerKid Mar 2017 #38
I'm so sick of these motherfucking scumbag assholes... GReedDiamond Mar 2017 #34
GJGE Snowdenistas Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #42
I've got a question for white folks in flyover America: Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #43
VPN time Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #45
For us idiots, what is this and how will it help? JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2017 #46

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
12. I think the writer was using the 230 -180 preliminary vote, then when the final vote came in,
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:54 PM
Mar 2017

the editor screwed up when updating the total.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028864255

I notice there are 9 congressional votes missing, that were not yea, nay, present, or non-voting. Interesting.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
3. "Unreasonably strict guidelines" my ass.... these bastards want to profit off my health records
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:30 PM
Mar 2017

Right now would be a good time for anonymous to publish health related information of key congress-critters and their families who voted for this bullshit bill. Give them a taste of their own medicine. I'm sorry but I don't like being spied on, whether it's by the government, google, or my ISP. My health information, the websites I chose to visit, and what I purchase is my owned damned business and nobody elses.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
4. So you pay for your Internet, and then the greedy bastards sell your browsing history
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:36 PM
Mar 2017

I think it's really all about certain folks being able capture a targets browsing history and other identifying information. No warrant needed. Just a checkbook.

To do with what they will.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
7. Great we fucking lost another battle. And from what I read, this is irreversible. NICE.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:39 PM
Mar 2017

Wrote my representative and everything.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
44. THEY really don't fucking care...
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:18 AM
Mar 2017

They WOULD sell off everyone's grand mother if they could get away with it.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
9. How do they justify tths to their constituents ?What's the spin here ?
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:42 PM
Mar 2017

Trickledown economics ? The more money they make by selling your personal information will make the internet cheaper ? How do we the people benefit from this ? Oh damn , I forgot , corporations are people too.

onenote

(42,693 posts)
35. Senate consideration of a resolution of disapproval is not subject to filibuster
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 11:20 PM
Mar 2017

Technically it's a resolution, not a law. It is governed by an expedited procedure that differs from that applicable to ordinary legislation.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
18. So, now's the time to take recommendations on the varying VPN offerings out there.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 07:15 PM
Mar 2017

Some are better than others--I know a few people who use tunnelbear, and of course there's HOLA, but I'm sure I'm not the only one interested in hearing the experiences of others with regard to reliability and speed. And cost, of course~.....

ThingsGottaChange

(1,200 posts)
29. We really need this!
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:19 PM
Mar 2017

I definitely want to use VPN but, don't know a whole lot about it. Some are better than others. If we can get recommendations from the pros at Computer & Internet, that would be a huge help. Need to know which have the best bang for the bucks.

onenote

(42,693 posts)
22. The rules had been blocked a month ago.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 07:30 PM
Mar 2017

And even if the House had not passed the resolution, they would have stayed blocked, so i'm pretty sure the market already had taken that into account.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
39. you can't opt out of the law
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:28 AM
Mar 2017

you can, however, disconnect the service. That's the only recourse at this point.

dawn frenzy adams

(429 posts)
24. THE WEASEL WORM THAT TRUMP APPOINTED TO CHAIR THE FCC
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 07:40 PM
Mar 2017

AJIT PAI


We can thank Ajit Pai, the Chairman of the FCC, who has never met a corporate power he didn't like. He hates Net Neutrality. That will be the next shoe to drop. You better get ready for the fight for the Internet to remain free.

Alt-Orange

(94 posts)
25. I have a small local company as my ISP
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 07:56 PM
Mar 2017

So even if it's just the bigger, greedy ISP that sell your data off I'm still going to call up mine and ask them about it. And if possible ask to opt-out.

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
27. I guess these ass holes forgot
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:07 PM
Mar 2017

that their internet history and info is now for sale too. This was a big loss.

Anybody know about the opt out procedures?

PuppyBismark

(594 posts)
28. Is there no veto protection for any of this legislation?
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:10 PM
Mar 2017

How did the veto disappear? We really need to get the Senate back. If the Dems don't return to control of the Senate in two years, we are sunk. (OK, we're sunk now anyway.)

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
31. Screw the Second Ammendment, what about the 4th's Rights of Privacy?
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:47 PM
Mar 2017

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.[2]

BadgerKid

(4,551 posts)
38. I think we need an intellectual property or trade secret approach
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:44 AM
Mar 2017

Because the 4th seems to address physical personal property.

I could see where ISPs might try to charge a higher rate for users who want to opt out of being tracked.

GReedDiamond

(5,311 posts)
34. I'm so sick of these motherfucking scumbag assholes...
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 09:35 PM
Mar 2017

..."Republicans" - who are now nothing more or less than neo-fascist thugs - are the most corrupt, crooked, foul stinking bastards to ever occupy positions of power I have ever seen, going back to before Nixon.

My hatred of these political cockroaches knows no bounds.

I hope all 215 of them eventually - and slowly - die from particularly nasty and painful forms of bowel cancer.

I know that's pretty harsh but FUCK EM ALL, they deserve such a fate!

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
42. GJGE Snowdenistas
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:08 AM
Mar 2017

But hey, the important thing was just making sure Hillary lost, and everything else after that was gravy, amirite?

So where the fuck are Timm and Greenwald and all the rest?? If Obama was still in office they'd be marching on Washington by now...

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
43. I've got a question for white folks in flyover America:
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:13 AM
Mar 2017

Deep down in your hearts, is this what you really voted for? Did you really feel that sorry for the poor, oppressed internet service providers who are barely breaking even that you wanted them to be able to freely sell our data??

Kimchijeon

(1,606 posts)
45. VPN time
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 01:09 PM
Mar 2017

Unless your isp isn't one of those known for this kind of practice. (But still better to err on the side of caution.)

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
46. For us idiots, what is this and how will it help?
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 03:28 PM
Mar 2017

I don't want to bounce off servers in Russia and North Korea, but how does browsing history, form-filling values, etc, get hidden from the ISPs?

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