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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue May 2, 2017, 12:21 PM May 2017

Parents of gay, bi men in Chechnya told: Kill your children or we will

Source: LGBTQ Nation


By Jeff Taylor · Tuesday, May 2, 2017

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According to the British government, Chechnya’s president, Ramzan Kadyrov, plans to eliminate the LGBTQ community by the start of Ramadan, less than a month away. As we previously reported, survivors have outlined abuses including electrocution and beatings, and shared that when and if they are brought back home, their families are told they should murder them in an honor killing.

Now we have a man who made it out alive sharing that sometimes families are invited to the prison sites and told to kill their relative, or else the authorities will do it themselves.

“They tell the parents to kill their child,” said the man, whose identity has been protected over fears for his safety. “They say, ‘Either you do it or we will.’ They call it, ‘Cleaning your honor with blood.'”

“They tortured a man for two weeks,” he continued. “They summoned his parents and his brothers who all came. They said to them, ‘Your son is a homosexual. Sort it out or we’ll do it ourselves.’ They replied, ‘It’s our family, we’ll do it.’ The family took him and killed him in the forest. They buried him there. They didn’t even give him a funeral.” The man said that if he were to go home, he believes his family would do likewise, leaving him to suffer the same fate.

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Read more: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/05/parents-gay-bi-men-chechnya-told-kill-children-will
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Parents of gay, bi men in Chechnya told: Kill your children or we will (Original Post) DonViejo May 2017 OP
Next Tweet: "I would be honored to meet with President Kadyrov." WinkyDink May 2017 #1
in 3... 2... 1... 2naSalit May 2017 #4
This is insane! nt Guy Whitey Corngood May 2017 #2
How is the President of Chechnya communicationing this to the parents? HoneyBadger May 2017 #3
Follow the link to the full article... DonViejo May 2017 #5
Read it. That could just be one nut job at a prison doing this, vs a country or a President HoneyBadger May 2017 #12
The President's announcement to rid his country of... DonViejo May 2017 #13
Can you link the announcement? HoneyBadger May 2017 #15
My name is DonViejo, not DonGoogle... DonViejo May 2017 #16
Never again, right? Right? n2doc May 2017 #6
Don't expect any help from our government. progressoid May 2017 #7
This is so F'en evil I'm at a loss for words. Where the F is Trump in all of this. n/t RKP5637 May 2017 #8
Nikki Haley's office released a statement on April 17th. EL34x4 May 2017 #19
That's good to hear!!! n/t RKP5637 May 2017 #20
I feel like throwing up and crying at the same time OKNancy May 2017 #9
Is Tillerson doing anything? 50 members of Congress urged him to at least condemn it... JudyM May 2017 #10
fuck Kali May 2017 #11
This makes me so fucking mad. Behind the Aegis May 2017 #14
So fucking evil. riderinthestorm May 2017 #17
Chechnya is becoming the Armenia for lgbt people. romanic May 2017 #18
The Chechens are a very, very tough people. cigsandcoffee May 2017 #21
I don't even believe Chechnya produces anything we could boycott... EL34x4 May 2017 #22
One can donate airline miles to free LGBT from Chechen concentration camps HoneyBadger May 2017 #23
The NYC Pride parade is on the last day of Ramadan HoneyBadger May 2017 #24
 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
3. How is the President of Chechnya communicationing this to the parents?
Tue May 2, 2017, 12:53 PM
May 2017

Very curious. Email? Phone? If somebody calls me and says to kill my kid, my instant assumption is that they are nuts. And I treat it as such. Maybe it does not work that way in Chechnya, but this sounds more like a death cult than a country of sane people.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
13. The President's announcement to rid his country of...
Tue May 2, 2017, 04:47 PM
May 2017

homosexuals​ by Ramadan (less than a month away) means nothing, huh? I've posted plenty of accounts from "nut jobs", as you like to call them, maybe you should do a site search and read the accounts. Including from UN leadership.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
6. Never again, right? Right?
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:40 PM
May 2017

Except that Holocaust happens again, and again. To different groups. In different countries. But again.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
19. Nikki Haley's office released a statement on April 17th.
Tue May 2, 2017, 06:41 PM
May 2017
"We continue to be disturbed by reports of kidnapping, torture, and murder of people in Chechnya based on their sexual orientation and those persecuted by association. If true, this violation of human rights cannot be ignored – Chechen authorities must immediately investigate these allegations, hold anyone involved accountable, and take steps to prevent future abuses.

We are against all forms of discrimination, including against people based on sexual orientation. When left unchecked, discrimination and human rights abuses can lead to destabilization and conflict.

Tomorrow, the United States will lead a first-ever meeting on human rights in international conflicts in the UN Security Council to underscore our commitment to addressing human rights abuses wherever they threaten international peace and security."


https://usun.state.gov/remarks/7770

Behind the Aegis

(53,944 posts)
14. This makes me so fucking mad.
Tue May 2, 2017, 04:50 PM
May 2017

Will anyone come to their aid?! Maybe the president will get his wish and eliminate many gay and bi men before Ramadan. I know he is hoping for "all", but unless (mainly) heterosexuals stop having children, then the "gay problem" will keep happening. My mother would sooner die multiple deaths than for me (or my brothers) to suffer one!

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
17. So fucking evil.
Tue May 2, 2017, 05:32 PM
May 2017


No words are sufficient to address this monstrous catastrophe happening before our eyes.

cigsandcoffee

(2,300 posts)
21. The Chechens are a very, very tough people.
Tue May 2, 2017, 07:15 PM
May 2017

This is not like dealing with a Christian pizza shop in Skokie that won't serve LGBTQs, and folds quickly under Facebook pressure. There are pretty much zero fucks given by Chechens as to what we or anyone else thinks of them.

This will not be an easy region to help evolve.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
22. I don't even believe Chechnya produces anything we could boycott...
Tue May 2, 2017, 08:52 PM
May 2017

...Unlike Saudi Arabia, whose 1.11 million barrels of oil they sell us each day helps us overlook the fact that they also punish homosexuality with the death penalty.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
24. The NYC Pride parade is on the last day of Ramadan
Wed May 3, 2017, 06:32 AM
May 2017

Weird coincidence. This could be the focus of the parade if some of the refugees end up in NYC.

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