The final cache of secret JFK records set for release this year

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Star Tribune

Documents that show what the government knows about John F. Kennedy's 1963 trip to Dallas have been kept secret for more than 50 years. Now, these records are among the remaining sealed documents about the JFK assassination set for release in coming months.
By James Eli Shiffer Star Tribune MAY 2, 2017 — 5:31AM




Chief U.S. District Judge John Tunheim of Minnesota, who led an effort to release JFK records, expects some insights, but no big revelations.



Weeks before he murdered President John F. Kennedy in Dallas, Lee Harvey Oswald traveled to Mexico City and visited the Soviet and Cuban embassies in search of a visa.

Documents that show what the government knows about that 1963 trip have been kept secret for more than 50 years. Now, these records are among the remaining sealed documents about the JFK assassination set for release in coming months.
 
Unless President Donald Trump intervenes to stop them, the National Archives will make available tens of thousands of pages of previously unseen records on or before Oct. 26. That’s 25 years to the day President George H.W. Bush signed the John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act, which created a five-member board that reviewed and released millions of pages of records before it disbanded in 1998.

One of the main advocates for disclosing the files is the chairman of the panel, John Tunheim, the chief federal district judge for Minnesota.

Read more: http://www.startribune.com/the-final-cache-of-secret-jfk-records-set-for-release-this-year/420958203/

[stopbush]

1. Yep. Anyone expecting any big revelations is kidding themselves.

99% of this stuff has already been made public.

We've known what happened for over 50 years. Oswald acted alone. Get over it.

[Trust Buster]

2. This is still America. Yours is but just one opinion. "Get over it" was rude.

[snooper2]

6. negative

[Archae]

7. back in 1976, if I told you about Reagan's 1981 shooting, you'd say that's nuts.

Yet it happened.

Oswald was a radical leftist, so leftist he hated Russia.

Kennedy had been making inroads into the right-wing, and had been President when the Bay of Pigs happened.

Oswald wanted fame and glory, but was not talented or competent enough to do anything but shoot at people.

All the actual evidence, ballistics, forensics, etc, point to just one guy. Oswald.

"JFK" was 99% bullshit.

[stopbush]

35. As Bugliosi showed in his book, Oswald actually admired JFK.

His killing him had nothing to do with any malice against JFK himself. It was a purely self-aggrandizing political act.

[stopbush]

13. My opinion is based on the evidence, which in this case accounts for

over 99% of what one SHOULD be considering when determining how things went down.

If you prefer to exist in that 1% of "maybe," that's your choice. Just don't pretend or imagine that there's anywhere close to a 50-50 chance that there was a conspiracy involved. There wasn't.

The JFK CTists are on par with modern-day climate change deniers. Heavy on opinion and short on facts.

[LanternWaste]

20. I pretend the historical record as we know it absolute as well. It's comforting.

And the USS Maddox fired on valid North Korean targets; CIA never facilitated sale of drugs, and the FBI never attempted to discredit Rev. King.

I pretend the historical record as we know it absolute as well. It's comforting.

[stopbush]

36. An attempt at false equvalencies.

Tossing in unrelated events as if they prove a conspiracy in the JFK case would earn you an F in basic debating.

Conspiracies happen, and some assassinations are indeed the end product of a conspiracy. Lincoln and Sadat died at the hands of a conspiracy.

JFK died at the hands of a lone gunman. That's what the evidence shows, just as surely as the evidence shows a conspiracy in the deaths of Lincoln and Sadat.

Follow the evidence and avoid the wild conjecture.

[DiverDave]

21. Oswald was a patsy

And you tell us, Einstein, how a bullet can stop in mid-flight turn, then continue at the same velocity.
And all the people pointing up the grassy knoll.

So, you just take what the man gives you, and call it good?
I don't.
Critical thinking. It's really important.

[stopbush]

22. No bullet turned in mid flight.

Can't believe people still believe such crap.

[Chasstev365]

26. 3 shots, in 5.3 seconds, with a bolt action rifle, at a moving limo from a 6th Floor window

Sure Oswald acted alone!

He was also able to:

* Wave off the Secret Secret at the last minute
* Send the limo to Detroit to be rebuild before law enforcement could examine it
* impersonate Secret Service agents and confiscate the film of people on the grassy knoll
* Ignore the testimony of over 30 witnesses on the grassy knoll
* conduct a bogus, cover up autopsy
* let Jack Ruby into police HQ to murder him

KEEP TELLING YOURSELF OSWALD ACTED ALONE

[stopbush]

27. Er, sharpshooters hired by the WC duplicated Oswald's feat in LESS TIME,

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WITH ACCURACY, USING HIS RIFLE. 4.5 seconds is all they took.

5.3 seconds is wrong in regards to Oswald. Closer to 8 seconds. The first bullet is already chambered for the first shot. After the first shot, he needed to get off two more shots in maybe 5-6 seconds. Not at all difficult as the bullets were in a magazine.

The rest of your fantasy world isn't worth taking the time to dispute.

[Chasstev365]

28. Do you have a monopoly on the truth?

I think not!

[stopbush]

30. Evidence, my friend. Cold, objective evidence.

Take a look at it some day.

[Chasstev365]

33. I have: stop being so condescending!

[stopbush]

34. What of the evidence in the case do you find unconvincing?

Knowing the evidence, I'm sure you can provide chapter and verse on its faults.

[no_hypocrisy]

3. Will Trump prevent their release?

[briv1016]

11. Why would he?

The FBI engaging the public in anything other than the Russian investigation is seen as a good thing to him. He may even be able to time the release to cover another scandle.

[Lurks Often]

4. Any "smoking gun" information has long been destroyed,

if it ever existed in the first place.

[melm00se]

5. There won't be any film recording

previously unheard testimony of known or unknown conspirators saying "I/We did it!".

what you will see is additional background material giving insight into the opinions, decision process etc of known events with less redacting.

[Archae]

8. There was a cover-up at the FBI...

Hoover covered up just how much the FBI had been watching the radical leftist Oswald.

The truth would have destroyed Hoover's career.

[MGKrebs]

9. That guy kinda looks like a Kennedy. eom

[singed.dude]

10. The best explanation (IMO) of the JFK assassination

Disclaimer: I do not intend to get into an argument about the JFK assassination.

We have to wait and see what, if any, documents are released. I keep my fingers crossed and hope whatever documentation is released will finally dispel all doubts as to what happened.

I've read several books and watched several videos on the JFK assassination. The best explanation (IMO) of the assassination is "Crossfire: The Plot That Killed Kennedy", by Jim Marrs.

Mr. Marrs presents a compelling case that Oswald did not act alone. In fact, according to Mr. Marrs, it's quite plausible that Oswald may not have even fired any shots that day in Dallas.

[Locrian]

12. Devil's Chessboard

about the history of the CIA, Dulles brothers etc makes a very interesting case at the end.
The history - going back to WWII etc makes it pretty darn believable that anything was possible.

In October 1963, JFK signed National Security Action Memorandum (NSAM) 263 when there were 16,500 U.S. advisers in South Vietnam. The memorandum outlined a withdrawal plan that would evacuate all U.S. personnel by the end of 1965. This did not sit well with many hardened militarists and especially the CIA. In the eyes of implacable Cold Warriors the president was an outright heretic. Talbot lays out a strong circumstantial argument for the CIA’s involvement in the assassination of John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963. NSAM 263 would be discarded. The hideous bloody quagmire of the Vietnam War would soon unfold.

Exactly one month after JFK’s assassination Harry Truman wrote in The Washington Post: “For some time I have been disturbed by the way CIA has been diverted from its original assignment. It has become an operational and at times a policy-making arm of the Government. This has led to trouble and may have compounded our difficulties in several explosive areas.”

[singed.dude]

17. I read the Devil's Chessboard.

The theory and the facts presented in that book are quite plausible and compelling.

[stopbush]

14. Jim Marrs? Seriously? The guy who was discredited decades ago on this subject?

Like many CTists, he gives a pass to the actual SOB who killed JFK. Disgusting.

Read Posner, or better yet, Bugliosi. Then get back to us.

[rusty fender]

15. So you believe the "Magic Bullet" theory

So much for DUers not believing fake news

[stopbush]

16. The magic bullet moniker is a term thought up by the CTists.

It's meant to get gullible people to ignore the evidence in the case and shell out $ for books based entirely on conjecture.

There was nothing magical about any of the bullets that were fired that day. They behaved exactly the way bullets behave, from the trajectory and impact of the bullet that hit both JFK and Connolly to the kill shot that hit JFK in the back of his head. The forensic evidence in the case as it relates to the weapon used, the bullets matching to the weapon used, the bullet fragments found etc is compelling.

BTW - do you have even a cursory knowledge of the evidence in the case as contained in the WCR? It's all there for people who are objective and who demand evidence.

[rusty fender]

19. LOL!

Firstly, I've read the Warren Commission Report. By and large, it tries, but fails, to mold the facts to its predetermined conclusion. I've also read dozens of other books on the JFK assassination. I've watched the Zapruder film many times. I've examined the stills, frame by frame, of the head shot. Your presumption that I know nothing because I don't agree with you is astounding and condescending.

Secondly, the magicalness of the bullet also refers to the near pristine condition of the bullet after it passed through two bodies(supposedly) while also smashing bones. There is no way that bullet caused all the damage it was said to have caused, and still have come out virtually undamaged.

Thirdly, I don't have the time, at this moment, to argue with you about the myriad details of why I disagree with the Warren Commission Report. I will check back later tonight to respond to your reply.

[singed.dude]

18. I have not read either of those two authors' books on the assassination.

I do not believe the findings of the WCR, however, I'll make it a point to read both books.

[stopbush]

31. I appreciate your openness.

[LongTomH]

23. James Douglass: "JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters"

JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters is the book I would recommend. The author is a Catholic theologian, author and activist who makes his case that JFK's turn from being a cold warrior to a man of peace made him a target for assassination.

I do recommend the book as a resource for study of JFK's life and career as well as his death.

[Ghost Dog]

24. Yes. n/t

[singed.dude]

25. I read that book as well.

[Matilda]

32. I Believe.

And when MLK moved from tackling Civil Rights and began to speak against the Vietnam War, they got him.

And when RFK based his presidential campaign chiefly on getting out of Vietnam, they got him too..

I don't believe in coincidence. There was a thread linking them all.

I believe.