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Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
Fri May 5, 2017, 01:54 AM May 2017

Cops: Man fatally dragged after online sale; girls charged

Source: CBS News

CBS News
Crimesider Staff
11 hrs ago

ROUND LAKE, Ill. - Three teen girls are facing charges after they allegedly dragged a North Chicago man with their car during a cell phone sale arranged on an app. Trinidad Bueno-Sanchez, 43, struck his head during the incident and later died, reports CBS Chicago.

The girls offered to buy the cell phone Bueno-Sanchez had placed for sale using the app "Offer Up," reports The Chicago Tribune. They had arranged to meet in the parking lot of a grocery store on April 24, but police say the girls gave him only a fraction of the agreed-upon price.

As Bueno-Sanchez leaned into their car to demand the rest of his money, the teenagers drove off, and Bueno-Sanchez was dragged by the car, the station reports. He fell to the ground, hitting his head.

Bueno-Sanchez was taken to a hospital, where he was on life support for three days until he died.

Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/cops-man-fatally-dragged-after-online-sale-girls-charged/ar-BBAKvn7?li=BBnbcA1

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Cops: Man fatally dragged after online sale; girls charged (Original Post) Judi Lynn May 2017 OP
Post removed Post removed May 2017 #1
That's brutal and sounds like a robbery tactic, but... Ligyron May 2017 #2
That or maybe one of the parties was recording it. nt cstanleytech May 2017 #4
Sure sounds that way, or there were witnesses bucolic_frolic May 2017 #8
Apparently the victim was able to talk to police before he died three days later rocktivity May 2017 #12
"As Bueno-Sanchez leaned into their car to demand the rest of his money..." Tarc May 2017 #3
We really won't know the truth dreamland May 2017 #5
So if someone steals from you or doesn't pay full price and you try to stop them from taking the lunasun May 2017 #6
Blaming the victim? MicaelS May 2017 #9
Are you sure you are? Tarc May 2017 #19
Regrettable? Try fucking tragic. Iggo May 2017 #10
He is as much the perpetrator in this as the women are Tarc May 2017 #18
Wow, just fucking wow... Humanist_Activist May 2017 #20
That's enough out of you. Iggo May 2017 #22
Tragic all right. Poor man. Hortensis May 2017 #24
Intimidate? Flaleftist May 2017 #14
The article did not say they stole the phone, just refused to pay the amount Tarc May 2017 #17
Apparently they had possession of his phone and he was trying to get it back... Humanist_Activist May 2017 #21
Courtney A. Sherman, 18, was charged as an adult snooper2 May 2017 #7
More info here canetoad May 2017 #11
Apparently, Ms. Sherman was neither the driver nor the buyer, but as the only legal adult rocktivity May 2017 #13
It may just be hard to prove they committed any criminal acts NobodyHere May 2017 #15
If there was a premediated plan to shortchange the guy and drive off rocktivity May 2017 #16
the vehicle fled the scene Sunlei May 2017 #23

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Ligyron

(7,616 posts)
2. That's brutal and sounds like a robbery tactic, but...
Fri May 5, 2017, 07:34 AM
May 2017

I wonder how police came to the conclusion that the man was owed more money? Maybe one of the girls confessed?

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
8. Sure sounds that way, or there were witnesses
Fri May 5, 2017, 11:33 AM
May 2017

or the deceased gave a death bed statement

which is usually pretty air-tight in the eyes of the law

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
12. Apparently the victim was able to talk to police before he died three days later
Fri May 5, 2017, 01:09 PM
May 2017

Just another day in Chi-raq. So they're looking at felony murder as well as larceny and robbery.


rocktivity

Tarc

(10,472 posts)
3. "As Bueno-Sanchez leaned into their car to demand the rest of his money..."
Fri May 5, 2017, 08:10 AM
May 2017

The loss of any life is regrettable, but, it sounds like he was trying to intimidate.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
6. So if someone steals from you or doesn't pay full price and you try to stop them from taking the
Fri May 5, 2017, 09:16 AM
May 2017

item you own or demand that they pay the full price it's intimidation

Tarc

(10,472 posts)
19. Are you sure you are?
Mon May 8, 2017, 11:23 PM
May 2017

Leaning into a car, demanding money is intimidation.

It's not hard to figure that out, so, work on that.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
20. Wow, just fucking wow...
Mon May 8, 2017, 11:27 PM
May 2017

I'm truly awestruck and the lack of ethical, legal and moral reasoning that your post encapsulates.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Tragic all right. Poor man.
Tue May 9, 2017, 02:47 PM
May 2017

Probably those girls didn't intend their criminal behavior to turn them into murderers either. Truth to tell, my sympathies are with their parents, who must be in shock, and of course with the victim and his family.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
21. Apparently they had possession of his phone and he was trying to get it back...
Mon May 8, 2017, 11:28 PM
May 2017

would you like to backtrack at this time?

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
7. Courtney A. Sherman, 18, was charged as an adult
Fri May 5, 2017, 09:43 AM
May 2017

Well no shit, she is an adult -


Thank you for the information crimesider staff you are on top of your game LOL

canetoad

(17,136 posts)
11. More info here
Fri May 5, 2017, 01:01 PM
May 2017
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/news/ct-lns-round-lake-beach-fatal-cellphone-sale-st-0402-20170501-story.html

"A vehicle driven by (a) 17-year-old female juvenile arrived and Bueno-Sanchez approached the passenger side of the vehicle," Scott said. "The vehicle was also occupied by Courtney Sherman, and four other female juveniles, 16 to 17 years old. When Bueno-Sanchez approached, he confirmed he had been communicating with one of the occupants in the vehicle regarding the sale of the cellphone."

According to Scott, Bueno-Sanchez began speaking with one of the girls, who was sitting in the front passenger seat. The deputy chief added that the girl asked to look at the phone, and Bueno-Sanchez gave it to her. That girl then handed Bueno-Sanchez an envelope containing only a fraction of the agreed-upon price, Scott said.

Bueno-Sanchez was leaning into the vehicle while he took issue with the payment, Scott said. At that point, the 17-year-old driver accelerated and Bueno-Sanchez was dragged by the vehicle before falling and striking his head on the pavement while the vehicle fled the scene, according to reports.

"He was talking to rescue personnel, and we didn't think he had life-threatening injuries, but a few hours later we learned they were life-threatening," Scott said.

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
13. Apparently, Ms. Sherman was neither the driver nor the buyer, but as the only legal adult
Fri May 5, 2017, 04:05 PM
May 2017

Last edited Sun Nov 26, 2017, 02:36 PM - Edit history (3)

she becomes the face of the case, with only her name and photo plastered all over the media. How long before her co-defendants' lawyers start calling her a gang leader who led them astray?

The story also says that "...two (other) occupants of the vehicle, females 16 to 17 years of age, will not be charged in the case." Either the perps convinced the cops that those two occupants knew nothing of the plan and just happened be along for the ride -- or those two occupants told the cops everything they wanted to hear!


rocktivity

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
15. It may just be hard to prove they committed any criminal acts
Fri May 5, 2017, 06:13 PM
May 2017

Their lawyers are probably saying that the other occupants did not put their foot on the gas pedal, so why should they be charged?

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
16. If there was a premediated plan to shortchange the guy and drive off
Fri May 5, 2017, 10:57 PM
May 2017

Last edited Wed May 24, 2017, 03:58 PM - Edit history (1)

they can certainly be held criminally liable for the victim's death.


rocktivity

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