Trump may dump Spicer, considering Fox host as spokesperson: report

[Julian Englis]

Source: The Hill

President Trump has reportedly considered replacing White House press secretary Sean Spicer, and has raised a Fox News host as a possible spokesperson.

Six West Wing officials told The New York Times that the president is considering the most far-reaching shake-up of his first term after being dissatisfied with several top aides, especially Spicer.

Trump has discussed Fox News host Kimberly Guilfoyle as a possible press secretary, according to the Times, which noted that the president has also spent several hours with Spicer this week praising his TV "ratings" during briefings.

The Times reported that Trump has also grown "increasingly dissatisfied" with the performance of his chief of staff Reince Priebus and communications director Michael Dubke.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/333245-trump-may-dump-spicer-considering-fox-news-host-as-replacement

[pangaia]

1. As usual, the little boy blames everybody else for taking away his all-day sucker.

[Honeycombe8]

2. +1. nt

[cstanleytech]

7. Considering whos the Whitehouse spokesmans boss I know the perfect replacement

[yurbud]

101. great one

[yurbud]

100. when he dropped it himself.

[RKP5637]

3. Guess the grabber's looking for a change of scenery. n/t

[NewRedDawn]

10. And in his eyes

She would be the perfect grabee. Hot Young & Sexy.

[karynnj]

4. Seems he blames his chief of staff and his communications director and spokesman for how he is seen

Yet, the problems often are his own comments - when he decides to speak publicly - or his tweets. I doubt even the best team could make him look good as HE is the problem. In Spicer, he has someone who seems almost a mini me in that he is super thin skinned and really seems to not think there is a problem with Trump's words and actions.

[cstanleytech]

8. Considering though how he came across 30+ years it really causes me to lean towards him suffering

from severe mental problems, perhaps even ones caused by Alzheimers since if I recall his father suffered from it later in life as well.

[karynnj]

17. As scary as his behavior being caused by dementia is the thought that it may not be

Remember he was the son of a wealthy father sent to military school as a teen. This was not because it could provide a better education. There are many many NYC area prep schools that would have been chosen for that. He was enough of an anti social troubled teen that his family thought a military school could straighten him out. His money and his position in his dad's (and then his) company allowed him to get away with things few others could have. Oddly, being President MIGHT be the first time when people are calling him out for all his dysfunctional behavior.

However, he does not see himself as we see him -- and he has his fans who validate his own view. That may explain his anger and his completely unpresidential attacks on anyone who questions him, his family or any of his actions.

[pangaia]

18. Very astute observations. And there are so many more with this nutbag...

[LeftInTX]

22. ++++++

[cstanleytech]

30. I am unable to render an opinion on why he was sent to military school although

it wouldnt surprise me if you are correct however I can say that its almost like its a different person thats in the Whitehouse than the one that gave out interviews in the mid 80s.

[CentralMass]

79. A WAPO article about his childhood.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/young-donald-trump-military-school/2016/06/22/f0b3b164-317c-11e6-8758-d58e76e11b12_story.html

[cstanleytech]

82. He put on one hell of an acting job then, wonder what happened to cause him to stop as surely

he could have easily gotten a ton of votes had he behaved like a decent person.

[ewagner]

32. -- and he has his fans who validate his own view

BINGO!
Faux (Not/Fake) News is the biggest validator...

and the Alt Right en masse is the next....

He only gravitates towards those to for validation and ego satisfaction.

[cstanleytech]

35. True and thats a huge danger because it causes him to live in a bubble and he seems unable or

unwilling to grasp that.

[susanna]

91. I've thought much the same.

I honestly think he has never been told "no" or "stop" before and is completely unable to process it and how to react.

You said it much more articulately than I did, though. Great observations.

[Grammy23]

94. I am not so sure he has never been told no before. I think his parents

probably tried and failed to curb his bad behavior. That was ostensibly the reason he was sent to a military school, to instill discipline and cut out the anti-social behavior. So one can assume at some point he heard the words no, stop and don't.

No, I think it still boils down to a serious case of Narcissism.....of one flavor or another. He has used and abused people throughout his entire life and mostly gotten away with it. On the other hand, he has had numerous business failures (bankruptcies), countless lawsuits, two failed marriages and who even knows how many side affairs he has had. So by some accounts, his life is not a shining example of success.

The people of the US are paying the price for having a President who wanted the title (but not the job) of President so much (due to his insatiable need for approval and respect) that he made a deal with one of our most notorious enemies. He has sold us all out and pulled off the near impossible task of becoming President. He didn't do it alone, of course, but you will never hear him admit that.

The whole sham of a presidency is starting to unravel before our eyes. We are witnessing behavior and statements coming out of the Oval Office that we've never seen before. Of all the men who have occupied that position, we've never had one so unhinged, corrupt and devious. Many were not perfect and some quite unethical, but they are not even in the game compared with tRump. There seems to be a great sense of uneasiness here and even among the news commentators who are covering this event. We know we're witnessing history, but many of us just want it over. We know it is likely we will not get a president we like, but the clear and present danger of the madman we have now will be gone.

[susanna]

96. To everything you said: YES.

Thanks, Grammy23. I appreciate your thoughts on this.

I'm not young or youngish. I'm not old or oldish. I'm in the middle.

Yet I have never, in my middling lifetime, witnessed such an ominous slide into chaos of the American body politic.

45 is (to quote one of his favorite words) a disaster - in every single sense of the word.

I am heartened by the spirit of the resistance, and hope it can hold up under the pressures we face.

[PatSeg]

5. Sean Spicer's problem

is his boss. I think Sean really tries hard, but how do you represent someone as volatile and dishonest as Trump?

[pangaia]

20. What kind of human being first of all accepts such a position under that sick,

emotionally disturbed, intellectually empty fuck?

And what kind of human being KEEPS such a position and wallows in the shit in the bottom of the latrine along with all the others?

ANOTHER sick, empty fuck. That's what kind.

[PatSeg]

26. Yeah, I've wondered about that

Spicer looks like a hostage with a gun to his back. Did he get in too deep and not know how to get out or is he compromised by what went on during the campaign? It just would seem that a relatively normal person would quit this job. I don't know, maybe he feels if he just hangs in there a little longer, things might get better, but sadly they just get worse.

[ewagner]

34. I think it's been said in a couple of different ways..

"Better to rein in Hell than serve in Heaven"

and

"There is a certain charm in being king...even if it's king of the garbage heap"*


*Okay...that's really my own quote...

[pangaia]

45. I like your quote. Just about as good as the original. :)))

[Rorey]

37. Absolutely agree

I have zero sympathy for Spicer or Huckabee Sanders or Conway or Priebus or anyone else on 45's staff. They could quit. The fact that they don't means they're.....what's that word????...complicit.

I love your "wallows in the shit in the bottom of the latrine" depiction.

[pangaia]

50. I have to admit, at one time and kind of 'wallowed in the latrine...' I guess one might say.

While playing in a symphony orchestra, opera orchestra and teaching at a music conservatory, I also did occasional free lance gigs-- some of which included playing shows that came to town.

Three that stick in my mind,,,
one of the big touring 'ice capades' type shows... ONE rehearsal all day Monday-- book was 4" thick !!
Ten shows tue through Sunday with THREE on Sat.
But the pay was astronomical !!!

ROY ROGERS !! HO HO.. happy trails...Pat Brady was still with Rogers, shortly before Brady died. The "Sons of the Pioneers' on that road tour were at that time LA studio guys and great musicians. We used to jam after and between shows...

And Ray Price the only gig from which I was ever fired.. which was actually a piece of luck,,

So, yeah. I did it for the $$$$$$$...

But in the meantime I was also playing Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, Strauss, Mahler, Stravinsky, Shostakovich, so there is that.

[PatSeg]

60. At least you had Mozart, etc.

What can Spicer claim from this gig? It is not great money, though I suppose he figures there will be great job offers down the road. Sadly, I don't think he'll have anything to look forward to, though maybe he could play himself on Saturday Night Live.

Roy Rogers? That brings back memories!

[pangaia]

78. And Dale Evans,.. :))))

[PatSeg]

87. Oh yes

My sister and I used to take turns being Dale Evans or Roy Rogers when we played "cowboys". I remember at the end of the show, they sang "Happy Trails" - we loved our westerns back then. Cisco Kid, Lone Ranger, Gene Audrey, Annie Oakley, Zorro, Gun Smoke.

[pangaia]

88. ZORRO !!!!!!!!!!

God you must be as old as I am,....

"Hey Seeesko....."

"Come on big fella !"

What about Sky King ?
Lash LaRue ?
Hoppy ?


We played cowboys and Indians, I must admit... which is interesting because one of the 'gang' I grew up with in NJ was from Oklahoma and his father was a 'chief." In fact everyone, including his family, called him Chief." I newver knew his first name.

While I am at it, the others in the 'gang' were included-
- The black guy -
- The Jewish guy -
- the 'dark haired' Italian Catholic -
- the red-headed Irish Catholic -
- ( Chief Jr.
- One guy was named Bill Shakespeare, I kid you not.
- and me the 'Hungarian' WASP

We were all close as white on rice, well... brown on rice.... LOL...

I am SURE that group of kids shaped my social views of life to a great degree.

[PatSeg]

90. Hopalong Cassidy

was one of my absolute favorites. Later it was Hugh O'Brien as Wyatt Earp. Oh yes, we watched Sky King as well, that's one I haven't heard mentioned in a long time. Somehow, I don't remember Lash LaRue.

One of the most fascinating biographies is of Duncan Renaldo, aka The Cisco Kid. What an incredible life, more interesting than any role he played. Evidently, Eleanor and Franklin Roosevelt came to his rescue at a difficult time in his life.

http://henryswesternroundup.blogspot.com/2010/08/amazing-adventures-of-duncan-renaldo.html


What a diverse "gang" you had when you were young!

[Rorey]

84. I don't think that's wallowing in a latrine.

You played a different style of music and got paid for it. I'm sure you did it with expertise, even though it didn't require the level of talent you exhibit in your "real life", and it was honest work. Nothing about 45's surrogates is honest.

[pangaia]

86. Well, it certainly is true that I didn't harm anyone by playing those shows.

And I will say, most of those shows required much more difficult sight-reading skills than most orchestral playing...

But it was just 'technical' fun, if you will. Playing under pressure with other great studio guys who could lay anything down perfectly the first time.. That's what we got paid for. No muss, no fuss. Play the chart...while the monkeys were skating around on the ice, whatever....... get paid. Go home..... Nothing deep about it. Entertainment for the masses....:&gt )

Like doing jingle dates..

[Scarsdale]

69. Complicit?

Maybe they do not understand that word, like Ivanka does not. Where is she? Why not make HER spokesperson? She has to think before she speaks, so the interviews would only take half the time for reporters to ask questions . Ask a question, and she has to pose, look sideways, THINK then make a nonsensical answer. Perfect!! Like daddy, she thinks she is superior, and she is wrong.

[Bradical79]

51. The trick is to keep the lies straight

And remember which ones were told in public and which ones in private, while also not adding your own lies to the mix when not prepared for a question. Can't catch everything, but it would be a bit less of a snowballing web of dishonesty.

Part of Trump's press secretary problem is that candidates with the brains, quick wits, and tempernent to sort out his bullshit but also the desire to work such a nightmare of a job is likely a very short list.

[PatSeg]

58. You can actually see his brain

working while trying to come up with an answer. He reminds me of a spouse, always trying to cover for her abusive lying husband, living in dread of pissing him off by saying the wrong thing.

[janterry]

6. LOL

Yes, that would make sense. I just googled her and saw her publicity pic. OMG. Of course that's who Trump wants to be surrounded by................her twitter feed comes up on the google page - and I see her latest tweet includes well wishes for the weekend and #ivankatrump and a little icon of a high-heeled shoe.

Where did she get her journalism degree? Trump U??

[karynnj]

25. Looked at Wikipedia after seeing your post - she is a lawyer and ex-wife of Gavin Newsom!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimberly_Guilfoyle

Her education is actually impressive:

Education[edit]
Guilfoyle graduated magna cum laude from the University of California, Davis, and received her Juris Doctor (J.D.) from the University of San Francisco School of Law in 1994. While in law school, she interned at the San Francisco district attorney's office. She also modeled for local department stores, including Macy's, and modeled Victoria's Secret lingerie in a bridal magazine.[6]
She also studied at Trinity College, Dublin in Ireland. While there, she published research in international children's rights and European Economic Community law.[7]
Law career[edit]
After law school, Guilfoyle briefly worked as a prosecutor in San Francisco, but lost her job in 1996 when Terence Hallinan was elected District Attorney and fired fourteen of the city's prosecutors.[8]
Guilfoyle then spent four years in Los Angeles as a Deputy District Attorney, working on adult and juvenile cases, including narcotics, domestic violence, kidnapping, robbery, arson, sexual assault and homicide cases. She received several awards at the Los Angeles District Attorney's Office, including Prosecutor of the Month.[7]
In 2000, Guilfoyle was re-hired by Hallinan in the San Francisco District Attorney’s Office, where she served as an Assistant District Attorney from 2000 to 2004. While Assistant D.A., she and lead prosecutor James Hammer earned a conviction in the 2002 case People v. Noel and Knoller, a second-degree murder trial involving a dog mauling that received international attention.[9][10]
As of 2008, she was a member of La Raza Lawyers Association[11]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimberly_Guilfoyle

Given her own background, my question is how did she become not just a Republican, but a Fox News personality:

Guilfoyle was born in San Francisco to a Puerto Rican mother and an Irish father. She grew up in the Mission District and Westlake and is a graduate of Mercy High School. Guilfoyle's mother, Mercedes, taught special education, and died of leukemia when Guilfoyle was eleven. "My mother was just everything to me, I loved her so much, I always wanted to be around her. I loved how I saw people react to her. She was a warm woman who worked in education with people with emotional challenges. I got my sense of giving back and how when you have many blessings, pay it forward," Guilfoyle said in a 2015 interview. [3]
Her father, Tony, was born in Ennis, County Clare, Ireland, and came to the U.S. at the age of 20. After serving 4 years in the US Army, he took up work in the construction trades. He later became a real estate investor and a close advisor to Mayor Newsom, until his death in 2008. Known as the "Godfather" in inner political circles his mantra was "For The People".

Having looked, I am embarrassed that so many here immediately defined her by her looks. Her credentials are pretty impressive. I have not seen her on Fox, which I do not watch, so I have no idea what her positions are. I do wonder what drove her to where she is politically today.

[PatSeg]

33. Hard to picture someone

who was married to Gavin Newsom working for Fox News. Interesting.

[7962]

27. Shes actually an attorney, not a journalist. Former prosecutor. nt

[janterry]

43. Oh, yes, I had read that.

I wonder about whether journalistic ethics apply to someone who is a commentator (since she violates traditional ethics so carelessly)?

I wonder how this is taught by academicians?

[Honeycombe8]

9. I guess he didn't like that dark haired woman who stood in for Spicer one day. nt

[CottonBear]

21. That was one of the Huckabee spawn, Sarah. N/T

[Honeycombe8]

42. Oh, yeah. That's right. Guess she didn't "perform" well enough.

They said she was just standing in for Spicer because he was on a trip or something. But I viewed it as a test run.

[JudyM]

11. He is really so concerned about the tv ratings, wow.

Being a Big Businessman he's all about the numbers.

[maddiemom]

12. Can we expect an end to the constant right wing insistance that government needs to be run

like a business now? The Trump debacle didn't take long to begin happening.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. One thing deliberately forgotten by people saying gubmnt should be run like a business

They deliberately do not say that one of the main principles of business it that you make money by spending money.

A well run government spends taxpayer money to support taxpayers so they can be productive and earn greater prosperity and enjoy life more. Good government spends on:

* Education so people have skills and wisdom (understanding) to be really productive.
* Health care so that illness is prevented, alleviated quickly, and people can spend more time gaining prosperity.
* Environment so that people are not debilitated by pollution.
* Consumer protection so that people don't have their life savings taken by crooks.
* Productive infrastructure such as public transportation for efficient movement of goods and services and people.

When you invest in the well-being of the People of the USA, the country remains competitive and a great place to live.

Also:
Raise taxes and lower spending when the economy is good.
Lower taxes and raise spending when the economy is bad and needs stimulus.

Democrats know this, but Republicons are aways on about lowering taxes no matter what, so they therefore spend up huge deficits.

[pangaia]

23. Well-stated.

I wish I cold remember this when confronted by some nutbag 'conservative,' or right wing asshat, or ignorant nitwit.

[maddiemom]

62. Excellent points!

[Wounded Bear]

13. Call in the...

[yuiyoshida]

14. Let me guess, melissa mccarthy FINALLY GOT TO TRUMP!!

[7962]

28. Good point! SNL couldnt use her great performances anymore!!

[yuiyoshida]

31. I thought she was great, and very funny.

Can't wait to see the new stuff!!

[BumRushDaShow]

15. We've heard him say this before

I suppose we'll believe it when we see it.

[WinkyDink]

19. Trump simply cannot understand why the world will not accept his lies and delusions. He is

totally incapable mentally to grasp that actual, not TV, reality will not bend to his will.

[George II]

24. Oh no! What will Melissa McCarthy do then? I hope they work this into their show tonight.

[7962]

29. Dont worry, she'll be on tonight

[JenniferJuniper]

36. She was seen by many yesterday

riding the podium in the streets of NYC.

[George II]

41. Yes, I can't wait to see the show tonight, it should be great.

[oberliner]

38. Distractions

Get the press talking about "Palace Intrigue" instead of the real, awful things that are happening.

[Mr. Ected]

39. He needs someone with a degree and experience in Turd Polishing

Because that is truly the job description for a Trump Press Secretary.

[Botany]

46. I didn't see your post until after I posted mine.

n/t

[Mr. Ected]

47. Not a surprise that the first thought that many of us have of the Trump presidency

Is scatological in nature.

[Botany]

74. It really doesn't matter who Trump has as P.S. because they will either have to:

1) Lie

b) Give bad news

iii) Try to "gaslight" the American People

4) Push right wing memes i.e. Hillary committed crimes.

[Thor_MN]

40. He is probably looking for beter ratings

As if the spokesperson has anything to do with that.

[Botany]

44. Urban Dictionary turd polishing

turd polishing
The act of trying to make something hopelessly weak and unattractive appear strong and appealing. An impossible process that usually results in a larger, uglier turd.
She tried to look more attractive by getting plastic surgery, but let's face it, you can't polish a turd.

[They_Live]

48. I thought it was going to be Bill-O

or Brit Hume.

[tenorly]

49. Sure he does.

I take it they've already "met."

[spiderpig]

52. OK - that does it.

The only notable contribution to 45's White House legacy, so dump him.

Comic writers around the world weep.

[klook]

56. Melissa McCarthy driving the Segway podium off a cliff

would be a good way to end the Spicey parodies. Sad!

[spiderpig]

59. Believe me, let me tell you, that would be very very bigly perfect

[True Dough]

53. This is Kimberly Guilfoyle

You can see why she'd be right up Trump's alley visually:




And he wouldn't install his deputy press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders:

[left-of-center2012]

54. "You can see why she'd be right up Trump's alley visually"

Is it her intellect?
Her style?
Her wit?
Her grasp of the issues?

[True Dough]

57. None of the above

I'm not saying she doesn't possess any of those things, but Drumpf undoubtedly has just fixed his gaze on her physical assets.

[underpants]

66. I agree. I was about to post her picture

Trump highly values people's looks, really over ability.

[Demtexan]

98. But can he keep his hands to himself.

We are all thinking it.

[spiderpig]

55. The former Ms. Gavin Newsom

He must be dousing his brain with bleach.

[czarjak]

85. Read the writing on the wall...

[LS_Editor]

61. Fox is already a propaganda mill for Trump. Might as well bring them into the press briefing room.

[LakeArenal]

63. Trump has grown "increasingly dissatisfied" with Reince Priebus and Michael Dubke.

Yes, they just can't get that rose to smell as sweet as it wants. They are all starting to smell of dump's loser stench.

[apnu]

64. Everybody around Trump is cannon fodder for Trump

He demands absolute loyalty (and mind reading powers apparently) from his people, but has or will throw every one of them under the bus to avoid taking responsibility for his actions.

Why anybody would want to work with him in any capacity is a wonder.

Its kinda obvious now why he turned to shady Russians for money. No legitimate person or institution of finance will touch him.

[yellowcanine]

65. That must be why Spicy was hiding in the White House shrubbery.

[Kimchijeon]

67. Yet another "Not The Onion" headline

I swear, just about everything with this crackpot admin feels like a joke.

[not fooled]

68. It's obvious why he would want her for the job

Aside from visual attributes, she's a trained faux monkey.

But why would she take the position as a dump stooge? Thankless at best and career-besmirching at worst.

She seems too smart to get sucked into dump's cesspool of lost souls. Especially when the whole thing could go boom at any moment.

[COLGATE4]

70. You just KNOW that he fantasizes about

grabbing Guilfoyle's -----.

[Solly Mack]

71. Leave Spicey Alone! SNL needs him!! and we need MM on SNL!!

Spicer is the most endearing part of your administration.

If by endearing one can accept that the bubonic plague of presidencies can have an endearing and errant flea who delivers his payload of death to his boss and not to the rest of us.

[bresue]

72. BILL O'REILLY? LOL!

[milestogo]

73. At this point why would anyone take a job in Trump's administration?

Who signs up to work for a raving lunatic that demands absolute loyalty?

[SunSeeker]

75. Anyone who would agree to be that liar's mouthpiece has no soul.

I imagine there is a reason Gavin Newsome divorced her.

[MattP]

76. Murdoch might agree to give her a pay raise upon her return to faux

[jberryhill]

77. Bill O'Reilly is free

[sarcasmo]

80. Bill'O the Clown.

[CentralMass]

81. I think tbat there is an element of malignant narcissism involved.

[IcyPeas]

83. Kimberly Guilfoyle current salary $840k.....

Sean Spicer salary approx. $180k.

why take a horrible job like that when you can have an easy job at fox?

[BobTheSubgenius]

89. You would have to be a lunatic to take that job. eom

[Sunlei]

92. so I guess Mrs Huckabee wouldn't wear the new wardrobe or have the suggested surgery?

Kimberly is shovel ready, personally trained by the fox men @ Republican TV.

[DFW]

93. Probably would be greeted by Spicer's internist

Lying day in and day out on behalf of a nut case like Trump has to be close to giving him ulcers anyway.

[Tatiana]

95. Gavin Newsom's ex-wife? Wow.

Yes, that would probably be Trump's type. Beautiful, in a had-work-done sort of way, enhanced boobs, and Team Trump all the time.

She'll probably get the job. She's probably been angling for the position for some time now.

[spiderpig]

97. Yeah, she's pretty much She Who Must Not Be Named in the Bay Area

Gavin must be buying brain bleach by the gallon.

[kwassa]

99. Enough of this Huckabee flashy glamour

[Renew Deal]

102. You'd have to be an idiot to take that job

[CountAllVotes]

103. tRump needs a new treasonous liar

Good luck loser!

IMPEACH THIS FRAUD NOW!