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brooklynite

(94,256 posts)
Wed May 17, 2017, 07:20 AM May 2017

Nikki Haley: Western Wall part of Israel, US embassy should be moved to Jerusalem

Source: The Times of Israel

The US ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, said Tuesday that the US embassy should be moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, upholding a campaign promise of US President Donald Trump, and that the Western Wall in the Old City of Jerusalem is part of Israeli territory.

Her remarks came amid an ongoing diplomatic spat between the US and Israel over whether the Western Wall is part of Israel or the West Bank — as one US consular staffer suggested — as well as speculation on whether Trump will fulfill his campaign promise to relocate the US embassy to Jerusalem, even as the president has since distanced himself from the move.

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In excerpts from an interview with CBN News released on Tuesday, Haley said: “Obviously I believe that the capital should be Jerusalem and the embassy should be moved to Jerusalem because if you look at all their government is in Jerusalem. So much of what goes on is in Jerusalem and I think we have to see that for what it is.”

Regarding the Western Wall, Haley said: “I don’t know what the policy of the administration is, but I believe the Western Wall is part of Israel and I think that that is how we’ve always seen it and that’s how we should pursue it… We’ve always thought the Western Wall was part of Israel.”

Read more: http://www.timesofisrael.com/nikki-haley-western-wall-part-of-israel-us-embassy-should-be-moved-to-jerusalem/

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Nikki Haley: Western Wall part of Israel, US embassy should be moved to Jerusalem (Original Post) brooklynite May 2017 OP
She would be better off keeping her mouth closed... her ignorance is spilling over. secondwind May 2017 #1
+ a million or so! eom BlueMTexpat May 2017 #28
"Get your Armagedd ON!" - republican Zeal Otts, Inc. Achilleaze May 2017 #2
more the mercers meddling. nt Javaman May 2017 #3
The Western wall is in Jerusalem and Jerusalem is part of Israel. former9thward May 2017 #4
Where it "wants" to be is irrelevant at best. LanternWaste May 2017 #11
She's right on the first point leftynyc May 2017 #5
"I don't know what my country's policy is.." Juliusseizure May 2017 #6
disgusting! a United Nations ambassador Foments violence /w a senseless, unnecessary building move! Sunlei May 2017 #7
pretty sad when moving an embassy Mosby May 2017 #8
Jerusalem is NOT the capital, Tel Aviv is. Coventina May 2017 #9
Israelis get to pick their capital not you Mosby May 2017 #15
Except that Jerusalem is Palestinian held territory. n/t Coventina May 2017 #17
Really? former9thward May 2017 #21
The international community does not recognize Jerusalem as part of Israel. Coventina May 2017 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author maxsolomon May 2017 #19
Your map must have been produced in the West Bank. former9thward May 2017 #20
ok, let's move it then maxsolomon May 2017 #23
I don't what the hold up is. former9thward May 2017 #24
You need to go to Israel and tell them where their capital is. former9thward May 2017 #22
See my previous post. eom. Coventina May 2017 #26
Let the "international community" try and take it away. former9thward May 2017 #29
jumpin up and down bora13 May 2017 #10
Yes, and Bill Clinton and George W. Bush also said they supported this move. David__77 May 2017 #12
+1 harun May 2017 #13
"The US ambassador to the United Nations..." Grins May 2017 #14
what's the bigger picture? Mosby May 2017 #16
Talking out her azz, again. nt elmac May 2017 #18
Interesting timing of the announcement Freethinker65 May 2017 #27

former9thward

(31,913 posts)
4. The Western wall is in Jerusalem and Jerusalem is part of Israel.
Wed May 17, 2017, 08:51 AM
May 2017

The embassy should be wherever Israel wants it to be. It is their country. If Israel wants it in Tel Aviv then so be it. If they want it in the Jerusalem area then so be it. Can anyone imagine a country deciding to put an embassy in Chicago when the U.S. wanted it in D.C.?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. Where it "wants" to be is irrelevant at best.
Wed May 17, 2017, 11:21 AM
May 2017

"The embassy should be wherever Israel wants it to be..."

Inaccurate. It should be where it foments and assists as much good will as possible. Where it "wants" to be is irrelevant at best.

Can anyone imagine a country denying any forethought, foresight or planning into international relations? (Six of one, half a dozen of the other, you see... and each as irrelevant and falsely equivalent as the other)

Though, given your consistent narrative, I can certainly understand why you ignore the directly relevant and focus on the emotional, the unsupported and the irrelevant in this particular case.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
5. She's right on the first point
Wed May 17, 2017, 09:39 AM
May 2017

The Western Wall IS in Israel and will never be anywhere else. On the second point, that's something that needs negotiation - maybe be part of any peace talks. A unilateral decision on that would be very problematic although the fanatics will cause trouble no matter how the decision is made.

Coventina

(27,025 posts)
9. Jerusalem is NOT the capital, Tel Aviv is.
Wed May 17, 2017, 11:09 AM
May 2017

The modern state of Israel was invented at the end of WWII.

There is a reason why Jerusalem was not chosen as the capital.

Those reasons, however inconvenient, still are very real.

former9thward

(31,913 posts)
21. Really?
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:47 PM
May 2017

I have visited Jerusalem several times and it was not in Palestinian held territory. When did this event happen?

Coventina

(27,025 posts)
25. The international community does not recognize Jerusalem as part of Israel.
Wed May 17, 2017, 03:51 PM
May 2017

They may be squatting on it, but that doesn't make it theirs.

Response to Mosby (Reply #15)

former9thward

(31,913 posts)
20. Your map must have been produced in the West Bank.
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:46 PM
May 2017

You know, the maps that don't show any existence of Israel. The capital of Israel is Jerusalem. Their legislature meets there and there prime minister lives there. Whether you like it or not.

maxsolomon

(33,220 posts)
23. ok, let's move it then
Wed May 17, 2017, 03:01 PM
May 2017

what's the hold up?

a new intifada? every surrounding arab nation that we're allied with having a collective aneurysm?

former9thward

(31,913 posts)
24. I don't what the hold up is.
Wed May 17, 2017, 03:14 PM
May 2017

The Arab nations that work with us would do a public protest for their people but would continue to work with us. The ones that hate us would continue to hate us. They don't need any excuses for that.

former9thward

(31,913 posts)
22. You need to go to Israel and tell them where their capital is.
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:53 PM
May 2017

Because clearly you know and they don't. The Knesset meets in Jerusalem and the Prime Minister lives there. You need to tell them they have made a mistake and they don't know where they are at. Tell them to move to your chosen capital, Tel Aviv.

Grins

(7,178 posts)
14. "The US ambassador to the United Nations..."
Wed May 17, 2017, 12:04 PM
May 2017
"The US ambassador to the United Nations...", and totally - totally! - clueless.

Do they ever sit back and see the bigger picture? Ever?

Mosby

(16,247 posts)
16. what's the bigger picture?
Wed May 17, 2017, 12:26 PM
May 2017

Why exactly can't Israelis decide where their capital is?

Why wouldn't Jews control their own holy sites like Christians and Muslims do with their important sites?

Freethinker65

(9,995 posts)
27. Interesting timing of the announcement
Wed May 17, 2017, 04:00 PM
May 2017

Wonder if the Oval Office fiasco had anything to do with it, or if it was meant to coincide with Trump's big trip?

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