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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed May 24, 2017, 09:43 AM May 2017

Trump tells Duterte of two U.S. nuclear subs in Korean waters: NYT

Source: Reuters



Wed May 24, 2017 | 8:32am EDT

U.S. President Donald Trump told his Philippine counterpart that Washington has sent two nuclear submarines to waters off the Korean peninsula, the New York Times said, comments likely to raise questions about his handling of sensitive information.

Trump has said "a major, major conflict" with North Korea is possible because of its nuclear and missile programs and that all options are on the table but that he wants to resolve the crisis diplomatically.

North Korea has vowed to develop a missile mounted with a nuclear warhead that can strike the mainland United States, saying the program is necessary to counter U.S. aggression.

Trump told Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte Washington had "a lot of firepower over there", according to the New York Times, which quoted a transcript of an April 29 call between the two. "We have two submarines — the best in the world. We have two nuclear submarines, not that we want to use them at all," the newspaper quoted Trump as telling Duterte, based on the transcript.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-submarines-idUSKBN18K15Y

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Trump tells Duterte of two U.S. nuclear subs in Korean waters: NYT (Original Post) DonViejo May 2017 OP
WTF? Isn't that another sharing of intelligence gaffe just so he can brag? brush May 2017 #1
Good god, somebody stop him before he kills us all librechik May 2017 #2
+ 1000. MBS May 2017 #31
why would this ameriKKKan fool heaven05 May 2017 #3
I was under the impression that the whole idea of our sub program was to allow them to... nycbos May 2017 #4
Have a "w" on me. n/t rzemanfl May 2017 #9
Proofreading has never been my strong suit. nycbos May 2017 #11
' rzemanfl May 2017 #12
You can't see me now but trixie2 May 2017 #25
This traveling circus Maxheader May 2017 #5
"traveling circus" - very well stated onetexan May 2017 #10
i worked with submariners on a defense project. they just *love* it when their location is revealed unblock May 2017 #6
Help us mhw May 2017 #30
Right. That's the idea. Not knowing where they are. rickford66 May 2017 #33
More loose lips. BumRushDaShow May 2017 #7
Are those subs there exboyfil May 2017 #8
Especially with Duarte of all people. Trump makes the most horrible friends to share with. notdarkyet May 2017 #21
Donnie's trying to put Assange and Snowden out of business Blue_Tires May 2017 #13
No kidding dalton99a May 2017 #17
The transcript is worth a read dalton99a May 2017 #14
"But shhh, don't tell anyone". Ligyron May 2017 #15
Loose lips sink ships IronLionZion May 2017 #16
it's like he's a kid NewJeffCT May 2017 #18
WTF is wrong with him??? lillypaddle May 2017 #19
and all we seem to be able to do is watch with horror. ever increasing horror. NRaleighLiberal May 2017 #20
This nightmare will not end well. BarbD May 2017 #35
Cuffs tiptonic May 2017 #22
A gag for his big mouth, too! Grammy23 May 2017 #28
I thought Deterte hated us. DK504 May 2017 #23
Oh, this is going to end well Big_K May 2017 #24
omg he campaigned on NOT telling people strategy FFS! TalenaGor May 2017 #26
He sounds like a 9 year old boy on the playground. C Moon May 2017 #27
The intelligence briefings should really be told in generalities or what ifs. Chemisse May 2017 #29
Someone needs to make a Trump version of the Chatty Cathy doll. tanyev May 2017 #32
Scary sentence from the Booman Tribune: Donald Trump is no John Kennedy... Grins May 2017 #34
This is what he tells the other leaders genxlib May 2017 #36
There's a very good fucking reason it's called the silent service. longship May 2017 #37
Everything Orangeman says or does is NoMoreRepugs May 2017 #38
Just a 70 year old man-child Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2017 #39
If North Korea bombs one of those subs and it is destroyed and American sailors kilked kimbutgar May 2017 #40
At least this time he leaked our own intel, and not our allies. mahina May 2017 #41
I could have told you that... EX500rider May 2017 #42
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
3. why would this ameriKKKan fool
Wed May 24, 2017, 09:51 AM
May 2017

called a potus even say that type of information where it could be publicly disseminated? He might be trying to intimidate, yet I think his stupid administration people are really afraid because the idiot-maniac-fool in n. korea IS NOT afraid of our threats much. He knows he can devastate the Korean peninsula at his will.. With millions of casualties and he damn sure ain't worried about his casualties.

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
4. I was under the impression that the whole idea of our sub program was to allow them to...
Wed May 24, 2017, 09:51 AM
May 2017

... gather intel in secret.


Kind of makes it difficult when someone blabs about where they are.

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
11. Proofreading has never been my strong suit.
Wed May 24, 2017, 10:07 AM
May 2017

I often read what my brain meant instead of whats on the page.

Maxheader

(4,370 posts)
5. This traveling circus
Wed May 24, 2017, 09:52 AM
May 2017

is a big hit with our foreign 'allies'.
Free intel..on our primary line of
nuclear deterrence.

onetexan

(13,023 posts)
10. "traveling circus" - very well stated
Wed May 24, 2017, 10:06 AM
May 2017

we need to get this idiot out of office before he gives away all our secrets and destroys established intel sharing relationships with other countries. He is in deed a clear and present danger to our national security!

unblock

(52,126 posts)
6. i worked with submariners on a defense project. they just *love* it when their location is revealed
Wed May 24, 2017, 09:58 AM
May 2017

***NOT***

but

but

but

but her emails...!!!!11!!!!!1!

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
8. Are those subs there
Wed May 24, 2017, 10:00 AM
May 2017

to insert Special Forces?

I assume they are attack subs. Are we expecting to attack N. Korean shipping? Launch Tomahawks? (don't we have other platforms for that). Tangle with Chinese subs?

Why would he share this?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
13. Donnie's trying to put Assange and Snowden out of business
Wed May 24, 2017, 10:26 AM
May 2017

Who needs spies and traitors when Donnie just boastfully spits our secrets out?

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
28. A gag for his big mouth, too!
Wed May 24, 2017, 11:58 AM
May 2017

He just can't stop himself. He has to run his mouth about what he knows, in spite of the fact that he has been told the information is top secret or sensitive. Seems like he has a need to brag to make him look like the one who knows. The BIG SHOT. They need to stop telling him anything of a sensitive nature or just make up stuff. Like the sun revolves around earth and gravity is a hoax.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
23. I thought Deterte hated us.
Wed May 24, 2017, 11:20 AM
May 2017

Enough of this already. Babbling state/military secrets to non-friendly nation. Isn't this illegal? Why hasn't he been Pepe the frog-marched out of the WH yet?

Chemisse

(30,803 posts)
29. The intelligence briefings should really be told in generalities or what ifs.
Wed May 24, 2017, 12:01 PM
May 2017

Or maybe just use big words so Trump doesn't understand them.

tanyev

(42,521 posts)
32. Someone needs to make a Trump version of the Chatty Cathy doll.
Wed May 24, 2017, 12:08 PM
May 2017

In a few more weeks, there will be multiple incidents that could be recorded for the soundtrack.

Grins

(7,199 posts)
34. Scary sentence from the Booman Tribune: Donald Trump is no John Kennedy...
Wed May 24, 2017, 12:19 PM
May 2017
"I'm hoping this reprise of 1962 doesn't end badly, but Donald Trump is no John Kennedy, and Kim Jong-un is no Nikita Khrushchev."

genxlib

(5,518 posts)
36. This is what he tells the other leaders
Wed May 24, 2017, 12:48 PM
May 2017

Imagine what he is saying to friends, family and business associates.

Country Clubs are just giant dick wagging contests so I imagine he can't keep from bragging about all the shit he knows.

longship

(40,416 posts)
37. There's a very good fucking reason it's called the silent service.
Wed May 24, 2017, 12:49 PM
May 2017

During WWII, submarine actions were notably off the table for journalists, hence "The silent service". Subs work best by stealth and secrecy. They hide!

Ask Richard O'Kane about his missions in the SS Tang, the most successful WWII US sub. Sadly, he's now dead, but his memoirs of his voyages in both the SS Wahoo under the notable Captain "Mushmouth" Morton, and as skipper of the SS Tang, are legendary in submarine history.

O'Kane's first rule was: We announce our presence first by our torpedoes. Surprise was his first and prominent strategy. Being undetected was primary to a successful patrol.

Drumpf is a fucking idiot!

Morton and O'Kane:

NoMoreRepugs

(9,372 posts)
38. Everything Orangeman says or does is
Wed May 24, 2017, 01:08 PM
May 2017

new and uncharted territory for a POTUS - Bermuda Triangle type territory, not the good kind.

kimbutgar

(21,056 posts)
40. If North Korea bombs one of those subs and it is destroyed and American sailors kilked
Wed May 24, 2017, 01:11 PM
May 2017

Will he blame Obama?

If I was in the Navy I would be outraged over him telling this to Duarte who is aligning himself with China and Russia. He knows Chump is an idiot and pulling away from America. i can see Duarte turning over Subic Bay to Russia or China now.



EX500rider

(10,809 posts)
42. I could have told you that...
Wed May 24, 2017, 09:42 PM
May 2017

....there are 2 US carrier groups in the area, they usually travel with nuclear attack subs.

Also the USS Michigan just recently docked there.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/24/politics/uss-michigan-nuclear-sub-south-korea/

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