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riversedge

(70,084 posts)
Wed May 31, 2017, 04:19 PM May 2017

Hillary Clinton says the Russians had to be guided by Americans

Source: recode.net




She says fake news and other forms of misinformation influenced the 2016 election.
by Tony Romm@TonyRomm May 31, 2017, 3:56pm EDT


.....................Appearing onstage at the Code Conference, Clinton pointed to a report by the government’s top intelligence agencies, released in January, which found Russia sought to “influence” and “undermine” the election. The FBI is still investigating ties between agents of Moscow and the Trump administration, but Clinton said Tuesday she is “leaning” in a direction that suggests the two coordinated.

“The Russians, in my opinion ... could not have known how best to weaponize that information unless they have been guided ... by Americans,” Clinton charged.

Clinton specifically pointed to the release of John Podesta’s hacked emails, which had been published online by WikiLeaks. She said the document dump only came an hour after a story in the Washington Post unearthed a 2005 tape of Trump making a controversial comment about women on the set of Access Hollywood.

Going forward, Clinton said, “I think it’s fair to ask, how did that actually influence the campaign, and how did they know what messages to deliver? Who told them? Who were they coordinating with, and colluding with?”.......................

Read more: https://www.recode.net/2017/5/31/15693850/hillary-rodham-clinton-secretary-state-president-first-lady-senator-code-2017








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***Also see this thread:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029140718#post19





A few comments by the blog:


https://www.recode.net/2017/5/31/15719914/liveblogging-hillary-clinton-code-conference..........................


Johana Bhuiyan 1:14:57 PM PDT

"You don't have a high enough classification to know what covfefe means," Clinton jokes about Spicer's response to Trump's covfefe tweet.
Tony Romm 1:13:01 PM PDT

This week, by the way, Elon Musk and others have contacted Trump to encourage him to remain part to the Paris agreement.
Johana Bhuiyan 1:12:53 PM PDT

"The president is a very impulsive, reactive personality," she said. "If we all like the Paris Agreement, he may decide to get out of it not understanding one bit of it." ..........................................
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Hillary Clinton says the Russians had to be guided by Americans (Original Post) riversedge May 2017 OP
while this is true I imagine haters will find some way to say she shouldn't be talking about it. JHan May 2017 #1
she's bitter. mopinko May 2017 #20
right?! . Fuck I'm still bitter. JHan May 2017 #22
me too. mopinko May 2017 #23
Me too. Anyone who isn't bitter after Trump subverted our democracy is an idiot. SunSeeker Jun 2017 #27
Hillary is still taking questions here.. riversedge May 2017 #2
Talking about the necessity of having an outside independent investigation. and that Republicans riversedge May 2017 #3
talking about scott Walker in WI and voter suppression. also Wiki links in WI--high searches in WI riversedge May 2017 #4
She was making a lot of sense. Turbineguy May 2017 #5
I will be watching riversedge May 2017 #11
I wouldnt be surprised in the least if it turns out that the GOP was in bed with the Russians cstanleytech May 2017 #6
Word nt RainCaster May 2017 #8
Yet think about it... susanna Jun 2017 #26
She spent several minutes talking about the current million plus Bots sign up for Trump---what is riversedge May 2017 #7
While she was up there I wish she had voiced support for withdrawing from the Paris Climate Accord.. Txbluedog May 2017 #9
ha ha. so true. riversedge May 2017 #12
The hackers needed internal polling data to know who and where to target. Bleacher Creature May 2017 #10
I suspect the Robert Mercer Factor ("data analysis king") pivotal in the Putin-Trump/Pence EC Win stuffmatters May 2017 #15
Bingo. Hillary basically said so in that interview. nt SunSeeker May 2017 #24
Yep, Hillary's definitely "on" Mercer, like that she reminds us of Brexit & Cambridge Analytics stuffmatters Jun 2017 #25
I almost cried thinking how everything would be so different now if only.....woe is me. BigmanPigman May 2017 #13
woe to all of us. Sure was great to hear a clear articulate women speak-without a riversedge May 2017 #17
Kick. dalton99a May 2017 #14
Fifth Columnists Doug the Dem May 2017 #16
And the American the finger should be pointing at canetoad May 2017 #18
Good for her that she spoke out. nt Ilsa May 2017 #19
Just now watched the whole interview; Hillary's masterful summary of what's happened/happening stuffmatters May 2017 #21

SunSeeker

(51,512 posts)
27. Me too. Anyone who isn't bitter after Trump subverted our democracy is an idiot.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 08:21 AM
Jun 2017

I am glad Hillary will not go quietly into the night and let Trump get away with his crimes. You and I and the millions strong in the resistance won't either. We love our country too much to just give up and give in.

Greta and Wolfy can go fuck themselves. They enabled Trump. They helped him by normalizing him while beating on Hillary's emails as if she had committed a crime. Hillary did nothing wrong yet she was the one portrayed as dishonest. Yeah, I'm still bitter. I will never get over what Trump and his enablers did to my country.

riversedge

(70,084 posts)
3. Talking about the necessity of having an outside independent investigation. and that Republicans
Wed May 31, 2017, 04:23 PM
May 2017

constantly need to be pushed to do Country over Party (ouch)!!

riversedge

(70,084 posts)
4. talking about scott Walker in WI and voter suppression. also Wiki links in WI--high searches in WI
Wed May 31, 2017, 04:29 PM
May 2017

for information--misinformation. I did not know this.

Talked of an AP study done-in WI. Over 200,000 (sorry but I forget the number already) that were prevented from voting because of lack of Id's

Turbineguy

(37,291 posts)
5. She was making a lot of sense.
Wed May 31, 2017, 04:29 PM
May 2017

Watch the reaction of the RW hate-machine. That should tell us if she's correct.

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
6. I wouldnt be surprised in the least if it turns out that the GOP was in bed with the Russians
Wed May 31, 2017, 04:29 PM
May 2017

as they put winning an election for their party first and they clearly have put the country last and it could explain why Mitch and Ryan have stonewalled an independent investigation if they knew it was going on assuming they themselves were not directly involved in carrying it out of course.

susanna

(5,231 posts)
26. Yet think about it...
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:17 AM
Jun 2017

By not acting on actual, serious allegations, the GOP have abdicated their responsibility as leaders (I know, not much of a shocker).

Still: we, the (American) people may be many things: not tuned in to politics 24/7, busy living our lives, tired of the division, but we are far from stupid.

The last few times someone congress-splained to me, I laughed my ass off...I'm not a powerful person in this country, but I'm not dumb. Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining. I personally think that the GOP are playing on the idea that The American people can be pacified by platitudes. I think they are in for an awakening. Moreover, I think they are complicit.

on edit: added something I forgot

riversedge

(70,084 posts)
7. She spent several minutes talking about the current million plus Bots sign up for Trump---what is
Wed May 31, 2017, 04:39 PM
May 2017

reason. Diversion. divert your attention from issues--and the past poor performance of Trump in Europe

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
9. While she was up there I wish she had voiced support for withdrawing from the Paris Climate Accord..
Wed May 31, 2017, 04:46 PM
May 2017

Trump would have immediately doubled down on the US's commitment to climate change

Bleacher Creature

(11,252 posts)
10. The hackers needed internal polling data to know who and where to target.
Wed May 31, 2017, 04:46 PM
May 2017

I think it's pretty easy to find out if the Russians commissioned polls. Otherwise, the easiest place to get that information was the Trump campaign.

riversedge

(70,084 posts)
17. woe to all of us. Sure was great to hear a clear articulate women speak-without a
Wed May 31, 2017, 05:15 PM
May 2017

teleprompter at that!

canetoad

(17,136 posts)
18. And the American the finger should be pointing at
Wed May 31, 2017, 05:40 PM
May 2017

Is Jared Kushner. He was in charge of the digital messaging. He operated the digital campaign 'just like a tech startup'. I believe the Russians just had to explain what to do and Kushner carried out their bidding.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
21. Just now watched the whole interview; Hillary's masterful summary of what's happened/happening
Wed May 31, 2017, 06:56 PM
May 2017

really showcases her phenomenal mind and character ...all of the top of her head too, just Hil being Hil, an absolute national treasure.

I wish I knew how to email this to my Republican women friends and sister. I think it would penetrate their bubbles not just about Hillary but about how high the stakes have become for saving our democracy. .

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