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neohippie

(1,142 posts)
Sat Jul 1, 2017, 08:06 AM Jul 2017

The Time I Got Recruited to Collude with the Russians

Source: https://lawfareblog.com/



I read the Wall Street Journal’s article yesterday on attempts by a GOP operative to recover missing Hillary Clinton emails with more than usual interest. I was involved in the events that reporter Shane Harris described, and I was an unnamed source for the initial story. What’s more, I was named in, and provided the documents to Harris that formed the basis of, this evening’s follow-up story, which reported that “A longtime Republican activist who led an operation hoping to obtain Hillary Clinton emails from hackers listed senior members of the Trump campaign, including some who now serve as top aides in the White House, in a recruitment document for his effort”:

Officials identified in the document include Steve Bannon, now chief strategist for President Donald Trump; Kellyanne Conway, former campaign manager and now White House counselor; Sam Clovis, a policy adviser to the Trump campaign and now a senior adviser at the Agriculture Department; and retired Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn, who was a campaign adviser and briefly was national security adviser in the Trump administration.

I’m writing this piece in the spirit of Benjamin Wittes’s account of his interactions with James Comey immediately following the New York Times story for which he acted as a source. The goal is to provide a fuller accounting of experiences which were thoroughly bizarre and which I did not fully understand until I read the Journal’s account of the episode yesterday. Indeed, I still do not fully understand the events I am going to describe, both what they reflected then or what they mean in retrospect. But I can lay out what happened, facts from which readers and investigators can draw their own conclusions.

Read more: https://lawfareblog.com/time-i-got-recruited-collude-russians



It would appear that this ties the Trump campaign and senior WH officials directly to efforts to get hacked emails from Hillary's server

here's a link to the WSJ story

https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-activist-who-sought-clinton-emails-cited-trump-campaign-officials-1498872923


As reported Thursday by The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Smith and people he recruited to his effort theorized the deleted emails might have been stolen by hackers and might contain matters that were politically damaging. He and his associates said they were in touch with several groups of hackers, including two from Russia they suspected were tied to the Moscow government, in a bid to find any stolen emails and potentially hurt Mrs. Clinton’s prospects.

Mr. Smith’s purpose in listing the officials isn’t clear. There is no indication in the document that he sought or received any coordination from the campaign officials or the campaign in general.

GOP Operative Sought Clinton Emails From Hackers, Implied a Connection to Flynn
Mr. Smith died in mid-May at age 81, about 10 days after he spoke to the Journal. He said he operated independently of the Trump campaign.

Officials identified in the document include Steve Bannon, now chief strategist for President Donald Trump; Kellyanne Conway, former campaign manager and now White House counselor; Sam Clovis, a policy adviser to the Trump campaign and now a senior adviser at the Agriculture Department; and retired Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn, who was a campaign adviser and briefly was national security adviser in the Trump administration.
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The Time I Got Recruited to Collude with the Russians (Original Post) neohippie Jul 2017 OP
more on this Twitter page neohippie Jul 2017 #1
I LOVE this Tweet by Benjamin Wittes... SkyDaddy7 Jul 2017 #2
Doesn't he put a hole in his tent too? dem4decades Jul 2017 #4
Not sure... SkyDaddy7 Jul 2017 #8
More like a dimple in his sandbag. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #11
That was an awesome Tweet! nt. SkyDaddy7 Jul 2017 #18
So how did Mr. Smith die? watoos Jul 2017 #3
WSJ reporter: "We do not know how (Peter Smith) died" L. Coyote Jul 2017 #12
He was 81 and as we see quite a long-time blabber, Hortensis Jul 2017 #14
Kick. dalton99a Jul 2017 #5
This man is about to have a long talk with Mr. Mueller marylandblue Jul 2017 #6
I think "a man named John Szobocsan" might also be paid a visit. dem4decades Jul 2017 #9
He's actually easy to find. politicat Jul 2017 #19
Yes, and "Szo" is still alive. Also pointing to Bannon, Perky Conway, Hortensis Jul 2017 #13
Oh, Lordy not fooled Jul 2017 #20
Sam Clovis is likely another Koch plant. Although googling Hortensis Jul 2017 #22
USDA employees not fooled Jul 2017 #23
The plot thickens... mnhtnbb Jul 2017 #7
This guy needs protection after what happened to Smith! berni_mccoy Jul 2017 #10
"Then, a few weeks into my interactions with Smith, he sent me a document" NBachers Jul 2017 #15
Nothing will come of it broadcaster90210 Jul 2017 #16
I think this whole thing will lead to indictments, but I understand your skepticism. hrmjustin Jul 2017 #17
This is LBN? Doug the Dem Jul 2017 #21
What you already heard this news? neohippie Jul 2017 #24

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
1. more on this Twitter page
Sat Jul 1, 2017, 08:17 AM
Jul 2017

This seems to create a timeline connecting the Peter Smith story to Sessions meetings with Kislyak



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SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
8. Not sure...
Sat Jul 1, 2017, 09:15 AM
Jul 2017

I just like the Tweet because the other day he Tweeted "Tick...Tick...Tick...Tick..." like a bomb was about to go off in the Trump investigation & now this.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
12. WSJ reporter: "We do not know how (Peter Smith) died"
Sat Jul 1, 2017, 10:24 AM
Jul 2017
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029275793

During the interview, Harris explained that Smith reached out to him to tell him his story shortly before he passed away on May 14 at the age of 81. MSNBC’s Elise Jordan then noted that Harris never mentioned Smith’s cause of death in his story about his role in trying to retrieve Clinton’s deleted State Department emails from Russian state hackers.

“How did Mr. Smith die?” she asked him.


“It’s a great question, and I should say we do not know how he died,” he said. “We made multiple attempts, both with family members and with associates of his, as well as government officials in the town where he lived, to try and determine his cause of death, and we were unsuccessful.”

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. He was 81 and as we see quite a long-time blabber,
Sat Jul 1, 2017, 10:58 AM
Jul 2017

in this case suggesting, to me at least, less reason for him to be murdered. Also, strict medical privacy laws would explain lack of information on his cause of death. If Smith's family just said no, then no one could legally disclose it. Notably, there's no indication of an inquest into it.

Smith's behavior in general suggests he was just one among millions of the malicious fools Hillary's runs for president revealed for what they were.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
6. This man is about to have a long talk with Mr. Mueller
Sat Jul 1, 2017, 09:08 AM
Jul 2017

It's enough evidence to convince a grand jury that Trump tried to obtain illegal information.

politicat

(9,808 posts)
19. He's actually easy to find.
Sat Jul 1, 2017, 11:41 PM
Jul 2017

Adjunct at Illinois Institute of Technology. Has several side hustles. Googles up pretty good.

But his Bloomberg corporate bio and connections page is 404 right now. Pete's isn't.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Yes, and "Szo" is still alive. Also pointing to Bannon, Perky Conway,
Sat Jul 1, 2017, 10:35 AM
Jul 2017

and Sam Clovis as involved with the attempts to collude with Russians.

Btw, I noticed his own best guess is still that Russia did not hack Hill and Bill's personal server.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
20. Oh, Lordy
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 02:44 AM
Jul 2017

Perhaps Mr. Clovis' apparent involvement in this sordid affair will prevent him from being named to a science post at USDA. A post for which he has no relevant experience and in which he would be an abysmal failure. Guess that was gonna be the point.



Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. Sam Clovis is likely another Koch plant. Although googling
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 07:27 AM
Jul 2017

him quickly doesn't cause statements of direct ties to spring up, it certainly does for many of the people he's worked for, supported for office, and worked alongside once joining the Rump campaign.

Regarding Clovis's joining Rump after working for Koch-buddy Rick Perry, from Washington Monthly: "I wrote about Clovis's “candidate-shopping” yesterday, and while noting his close relationship to Trump’s Iowa State Director Chuck Laudner, suggested he’d be a better fit with somebody like Ted Cruz. I mean, Clovis is a serious constitutional conservative (nice way to put it?); what’s he doing with a guy (Rump) who has little but contempt for conservative economic shibboleths or for that matter civil liberties?"

The Koch alliance has of course been tremendously successful in filling Rump's appointments with their choices.

So in this case, destruction would not be failure when the mandate was to destroy from within. Which, of course, it is.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
23. USDA employees
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 10:20 AM
Jul 2017

are on suicide watch.

Oh, and to all appearances the kochs are running the country. Thanks for the additional information.



NBachers

(17,098 posts)
15. "Then, a few weeks into my interactions with Smith, he sent me a document"
Sat Jul 1, 2017, 11:18 AM
Jul 2017

This document should be submitted as evidence to Mueller.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
24. What you already heard this news?
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 02:31 PM
Jul 2017

Links to story in Wall Street Journal, about Peter Smith and ties to Trump campaign searching for Clinton emails from Russian Hackers, what do you seem to have issues with? .


Here's another story in New York Magazine about the connection

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/now-we-have-a-roadmap-to-trump-campaigns-russia-collusion.html



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