Youre Not Losing Your Health Care, Senate GOPers Say. Youre Choosing!

[turbinetree]

Source: Talking Points Memo

As Senate Republicans lurch towards repealing the Affordable Care Act, party leaders and the Trump administration are pushing a new line about the projection that their bill would strip 22 million people of their health insurance over the next decade: that many or most of those people would be exercising their freedoms and dropping coverage by choice.

“If you’re not going to force people to buy something they don’t want, then they won’t buy it,” House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) said on Fox News. “So it’s not that people are getting pushed off a plan. It’s that people will choose not to buy something they don’t like or want.”

Ryan’s GOP colleagues in the Senate are doubling down on this argument even as the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office and outside health care experts say it is largely the bill’s gutting of Medicaid, reduction of subsidies and increase in out-of-pocket costs that would price tens of millions of people out of the health care marketplace entirely.


Republicans are pointing to the CBO’s finding that 15 million people would drop their insurance in the first year the Senate bill would go into effect, arguing that immediate drop-off is a sign of widespread eagerness to go uninsured once Obamacare’s tax penalty is repealed.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/choice-and-freedom-for-the-uninsured-senate-obamacare-repeal

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This is horse sh*t!!!!

These two ass****, Cornyn, Barrasso and his leadership conference boss is "pressuring" the CBO to get a "favorable score.
Which means they like to cheat

Your word for freedom means doesn't mean sh*t


Fuck You

[pangaia]

1. fuck republicans. every last one of them..

ok nOW THAT i GOT THAT POUT THERE, i'G GOING to continue resisting as best I cam.. emails, tel, texts, protests

sorry for the caps loclkl and tipoes


peach out

[olegramps]

9. In reality who gives a damn.

A large majority of those who voted for this disaster are the very ones who will lose their health care. I won't be losing any sleep over their stupidity. Yes, I feel for those who are the innocent victims, but then again why don't they get off their lazy ass and get informed and vote? I would love to see a survey of those who will be cut off and how they voted or didn't vote. I don't believe that people who were informed and supported health care voted against it. It is just a fact that the ignorance of a major section of many voters can not be overestimated in that they vote against their very own wellbeing. I have associated with many working class people who are absolutely so damn uninformed and prejudiced that they deserve being taken for a ride by Trump. I have been around long enough to know that you can't reason with these nincompoops, you are just wasting your breath.

[Honeycombe8]

2. Everyone knows that's a crock. I've read Repub politicians saying the "choose" meme is ridiculous.

But the Trumpers & Repubs will spout it, all the same, knowing all the time it's a fraud. Their hope is to muddy the waters so it won't be so clear that they're kicking millions off health care & will be responsible for suffering and death.

If they're saying this right now, I guess that means they're going ahead with the cruelty plan they have, or some such almost the same plan.

[lark]

3. This is an old line for Repugs, one they've used over and over and it fails every time.

People know they won't willingly give up the ability to access healthcare, that's why only 16% approved the House version of Trumpcare and in every poll but Faux, the approval ratings for the Senate version is in the teens as well. Yes, there are a lot of deplorably stupid Americans, but even most deplorables don't want to get sick and die nor do they want their family members to have that horrible experience either.

Yes, there are some Repugs that support this, people who have good insurance now, but most people even idiots don't.

[ancianita]

4. Fake agency. Fake logic. Fake rhetoric. Fake ideology. The First Amendment enables Real v. Fake.

We know real choosing from fake.

Anyone can break this fakery down.

[vkkv]

5. GOp supporters HAVE TO BE MORONS..

or millionaires... almost forgot that group of patriotic Americans.

[Yavin4]

6. He's spinning death.

Literally. He's trying to spin the fact that millions of people will die without Medicaid.

[lamp_shade]

7. Who or what will pay hospital emergency room costs for 15 million people who

chose to be insured, many of whom will require long term care and/or extremely expensive meds. Hospitals will close down, people will go bankrupt, people will die. Oy!

[keithbvadu2]

8. I choose the cheaper, better health care that Trump promised.

Is that option C?

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Make sure to mention this --- OFTEN

(Republican Congressman) voted for special benefits/treatment for himself, his family and staff.

https://www.vox.com/2017/4/25/15429982/gop-exemption-ahca-amendment

Republicans exempt their own insurance from their latest House health care proposal

Republican legislators want to keep popular Obamacare provisions for themselves and their staff.

[IronLionZion]

10. A lot of people who like their doctor will lose their doctor

and those who like their plan will lose their plan, and millions of Americans get booted out completely and lose coverage

But some wealthy folks will get tax cuts because they really need some incentive to create some jobs or something

[OhNo-Really]

11. Well that explains why they don't have McMansions and BMWs!

Low income people and nursing home elderlies choose not to.

Damn, that Ryan is a freakin genious.

All these years I thought it was because THEY CAN'T AF..ford them (apologies for almost yelling)

[jodymarie aimee]

12. Our Wisconsin Fucks use that all the time

free to not be in a union, free to not make min wage, free to.... you name it.......almost 8 years of this here.

[Cal Carpenter]

13. They're absolutely right.

I'll be choosing to keep a fucking roof over my head rather than living in the streets so I can pay $1000+ a month on health insurance that I can't afford to use anyway.

It's a really FUN FUCKING CHOICE.

[Matthew28]

14. I can choose to buy a 2 million dollar house too

Doesn't mean that the avg joe can afford healthcare even if he is working 3 jobs. The republican party is evil and immoral to its core...Doesn't give two shits about anyone else besides the rich.

[BigmanPigman]

15. I can choose to outright kill someone but does that make it OK?

I spend 25% of my income on ACA with subsidies and that's not OK either. Fix the ACA or make it single payer. Before the ACA I spent $30,000 for 2 years of insurance since I had a pre-existing condition and had to stop teaching and lost most of my savings from being a teacher over 15 years. I am going to lose my 500 sq foot apt within 18 months without the ACA and will die after suffering terrible pain. My disease has no cure and surgeries for the remainder of my life to help reduce the pain are necessary. Each surgery will cost over $50,000. There are no meds strong enough to do the trick. I had to leave teaching too early to retire and will have NO insurance again. I have voted in EVERY election, local to federal, since I was 18 and I am "resisiting" like crazy now while I still can physically.

I did not CHOOSE this McConnell! Fuck you!

[enid602]

16. No insurance

Anyone who did not want insurance never got it in the first place. Believe me.

[oberliner]

17. If young healthy people don't buy insurance

Then the whole system falls apart.

[Locrian]

18. isn't the bottome line....

Healthcare is too expensive - and it's too expensive because it's based on "charge whatever the customer will pay to not suffer/die".

I don't care if it's "insurance", or "choice" or whatever.
Anyone that isn't a multi-millionaire is an idiot if they think they aren't subject to being wiped out by a medical problem.

Given that - single payer or some sort of insurance is the only chance - but it still doesn't address the problem of overall COST.
Until we start addressing how we've chosen monetize well being (health) in order to PROFIT (privatizing the gains) at the expense of society as a whole (socializing the loss) - we will continue to let people suffer and die.

[treestar]

19. We won't be able to afford it

that is not "choosing" anything.

[Sunlei]

20. QUIT THE LIES REPUBLICANS. You don't want healthcare.GOV because they help the consumer not

the insurance corps.

[Sunlei]

21. MAKE THE FUCKING INSURANCE CORPS GET PLANS ON HEALTHCARE.GOV & off the internet search & TV!

thousands of 'plans on search engines and plenty of call now on TV ads!! Fuck you Republicans for letting Insurance Corps SCAM PEOPLE for insurance!!

[dreamland]

22. The key phrase here is that people will choose

...not to buy something they don't like or want. The repukes are missing another word how about "afford"?

[Nitram]

23. Right wing logic: if you voted for us, you chose to give up affordable health care.

They have a point...