KKK marchers say they will be armed Saturday at Charlottesville rally

[sandensea]

Source: Washington Post

A Ku Klux Klan chapter holding a rally in downtown Charlottesville on Saturday afternoon says it expects 80 to 100 members and supporters to take part in the protest and that most will have guns with them.

“It’s an open-carry state, so our members will be armed,” said James Moore, a member of the Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, which is headquartered in Pelham, NC, near the Virginia border. Moore said that if members are attacked, they will defend themselves.

The KKK is protesting the Charlottesville City Council’s decision this year to remove a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee from a public park and rename that park. Once called Lee Park, it is now Emancipation Park. A court injunction has halted the statue’s removal until a November hearing. On Thursday, a “Confederate Heroes” plaque attached to the statue was removed by city workers.

“The liberals are taking away our heritage,” Moore said.

Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/kkk-marchers-say-they-will-be-armed-saturday-at-charlottesville-rally/ar-BBDXYhk?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=mailsignout

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For any DU members in the area, please stay safe.

[Sneederbunk]

1. What are they afraid of?

[sharedvalues]

2. They have small penises. That's why they need to carry guns

It helps them feel more manly and in control.

[Maggiemayhem]

38. Public Recognition

Hence the hoods.

[Hortensis]

56. More like lack of attention. We used to have a KKK march

in our local downtown, but virtually no one came and they got to march around empty streets--permitted for a weekend day when most businesses were closed also. This is the deep south, and it was our very conservative neighbors and acquaintances who explained the local custom of denying them oxygen. And now they go try to bother people elsewhere.

[Initech]

3. Um... fuck your heritage, KKK.

[dchill]

17. Double that!

[dalton99a]

32. Their heritage from history's garbage bin

It won't fit in a double-wide and they're too cheap to rent storage space

[orangecrush]

4. Get out of this land

You damn klan!

[SergeStorms]

8. Now, now.......

I'm in NO WAY condoning what these lunatics have to say, however they have 1st amendment rights that protect their freedom to say it. Free speech is a two way street. I personally abhor their message of hate and racism, but I'll defend their right to voice their opinions, no matter how misguided and ignorant they are.

Myself, I'd say 25 miles away from their little hate-fest. If no one showed up they'd just be preaching to the choir. I realize some people feel more strongly about that, and WILL show up just to tell them how creepy and misguided they are. And that is THEIR right, but to provoke these lunatics in any way is just inviting trouble. I care too much about the "good guys" here, and if a single Democrat were to get shot it would be horrible. These people carry guns because THEY WANT TO USE THEM! Don't give them the slightest reason to do so.

[RKP5637]

27. These people carry guns because THEY WANT TO USE THEM!

Exactly, the are looking for a bloodbath.

[wasupaloopa]

29. Suppose 100 African Americans showed

up with guns to protest the Lee statue. On a different day?

Would folks stay 25 miles away and let them practice free speech?

I say show up in great numbers and overwhelm them with peace love and diversity.

Maybe 100 people to their one.

Now that is a demonstration.

And I'll be dammned if some gun nut try's to intimidate me into staying 25 miles away.

[packman]

45. Never happen

You will never find 100 African Americans that dumb and certainly not 100 to their one.

If anything happens it will be some asshole white group with guns fighting another asshole white group with guns.

[SergeStorms]

48. Call it "intimidaiton".....

call it whatever you want. I call it "common sense". If you want to put yourself in harm's way, that's your business. My contention is, if no one pays attention to them, if everyone ignores the hell out of them, they'll look pretty damned silly marching around in their costumes of hate, with sidearms strapped to them.

Exposing myself to undoubtedly drunk - and perhaps drugged - hateful lunatics who have loaded weapons within reach IS NOT a wager I'm prepared to make with my life. Your mileage may vary. That's one of the wonderful aspects of our country. You can decide for yourself which course of action you prefer to take. However, that same right to those decisions are afforded the opposition as well.

And, if for one second, you think these people will respond positively to a demonstration of "peace, love and diversity", you're only fooling yourself. These people are TRUMP SUPPORTERS, incapable of empathy, and certainly not enamored with concept of diversity.

[potone]

46. They are a terrorist organization, plain and simple.

Free speech is one thing, but we all know that that is not what the Klan is about. Would we allow a march by Al-Qaeda or Hezbollah? The Klan has murdered many, many people, and made many more justifiably fearful for their lives.

I don't know what the best way is to counter this is: whether to show up in opposition or simply to ignore them. I am sure that they hate being ignored, but that may be too passive a response.

[yagotme]

59. Hmm, interesting...

If a KKK'er shouts protests in a forest, and no one is there to hear him, did he actually make a noise???

[elmac]

5. One of the idiots will end up shooting themselves. nt

[SergeStorms]

9. That.....

is almost guaranteed. Most of these jackasses will be either drunk, methed out, or both, and I expect someone WILL neglect to use all necessary safety precautions. These aren't the brightest and best society has to offer.

[SecularMotion]

23. Armed 'patriot' accidentally shoots self in leg at Gettysburg battlefield

GETTYSBURG--A "patriot" who brought a revolver to Gettysburg National Military Park Saturday amid rumors of desecration of memorials accidentally shot himself in the leg Saturday.

Benjamin Hornberger, 23, of Shippensburg, accidentally triggered the revolver, which was inside a leg holster, when he temporarily rested the bottom of his flag pole against the holster, according to witnesses.
Park police were nearby when the shooting occurred and officers quickly applied a tourniquet that may have saved the man's life, said Sgt. Anna Rose, a spokeswoman with the U.S. Park Police.

A tourniquet type device covered the wound on the man's left thigh as he was loaded into an ambulance. He talked with paramedics and seemed in good spirits.

The gun then went off a second time about 1 p.m. when police were trying to unload the weapon. The gun was pointed at the ground in a field north of Meade's Headquarters along the west side of Taneytown Road. A PennLive reporter witnessed the second shot, which occurred as visitors to the park milled nearby.

http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/07/patriot_shot_in_leg_gettysburg.html

[TexasBushwhacker]

39. With a REVOLVER!

That's quite a feat.

[Hieronymus]

6. Huge surprise

[jmowreader]

7. There's only one way to fight these geniuses, and the Army can help

About twelve miles northeast of the park where the Klukkers are holding their rally lies the Army's National Ground Intelligence Center. There's a very large open field in the area - just perfect for holding a big celebration with food vendors, bands, maybe even fireworks.

What keeps hate groups going is people paying attention to them. If there's such a great party up by NGIC that everyone - ESPECIALLY the press - who might go to protest the Klan rally decides the party would be lots more fun and goes there instead, the Klan rally will be a failure.

[SergeStorms]

10. +1

n/t

[msongs]

11. onward christian soldiers, the south will rise again nt

[RKP5637]

28. Yeah, I wonder if they'll be carrying burning crosses. n/t

[underthematrix]

12. The absolute BEST way to counter KKK is to research the names of their most famous members

on ancestry.com and tweet their European immigrant lineage. These people are in denial about their European ancestors. WE can help them by constantly reminding them they are the descendants of immigrants.

[IronLionZion]

21. No they refer to themselves as European Americans

since Americans have gotten a little too diverse for some of them to handle. And many white supremacist leaders keep strong connections with their counterparts in the UK, Hungary, and other European countries.

[BumRushDaShow]

24. They need to "Go back to Europe". 😉

[TexasBushwhacker]

41. Maybe we should pay for their DNA to be tested

They might be surprised to find some African DNA in their precious heritage.

[Doodley]

13. Racists and guns. Sounds familiar.

[Skittles]

14. ow wow, gun humping racist cowards?

say it isn't so!

[All-In]

15. The Klan Is A Terrorist Organization

Just say it.

[IronLionZion]

22. Actually one of the first things Trump did

was take white supremacist groups off the FBI terror watch lists.

[DBoon]

43. Some people call them terrorists

Trump calls them his base

[riversedge]

16. All should avoid the march route. Just stay away and let them march in isolation.

[murielm99]

18. Several years ago, a group like this

decided to have an event in our county seat. About four rednecks, accompanied by their toothless hag girlfriends showed up for the event. There were a couple hundred counter protesters.

I wish the counter protesters had stayed home. The only good outcome for this went to the cops and sheriff's deputies. They got paid a lot of overtime.

Stay away from this one, people. Ignore the fools.

[gordianot]

19. The Klan and private militias real vulnerability is armed violence.

To actually pull the trigger will be their worst nightmare the phony racist militia does not stand a chance against the real militia. So far we have not seen large armed groups tackle governmental authorities I do think they know their fate should they ever try.

[nikibatts]

20. Maybe some one will throw a firecracker in their midst and they will start shooting each other?

[SammyWinstonJack]

25. +1000000!

[RKP5637]

30. OMG, would that be something! n/t

[underpants]

33. Possessing, selling or using unlawful fireworks is a Class 1 misdemeanor, punishable by up to 12 mon

Possessing, selling or using unlawful fireworks is a Class 1 misdemeanor, punishable by up to 12 months in jail and a fine of $2,500.

Seriously. Open carry - okay. Firecrackers - nope

http://www.dof.virginia.gov/fire/safety/fireworks.htm

[TexasBushwhacker]

42. And they might shoot an innocent bystander n/t

[FailureToCommunicate]

26. Too bad that even if no one shows up to counter protest, the press will cover this

and amplify their message of hate and intolerance and guns. The open carry aspect gives the media a new angle to run with.

Imagine if there were a large hate group of African Americans announcing a rally, and carrying guns. Not likely.

[mountain grammy]

31. Hoping for hot and humid.

They want to kill someone so bad, they may even shoot each other... good riddance.

[Yonnie3]

34. They will be outnumbered in downtown Charlottesville.

There are numerous community events scheduled. Church services, ice cream socials, concerts and etc. The folks I work with will provide a PA for an event at the Sprint Pavilion with the featured act being Crystal Garden (Boyd Tinsley). No firearms are allowed in the Pavilion.

I have other things to do with my life today so I won't see any of this first hand.

My wish was that these fools would be just ignored and they stand around and participate in their mental masturbation circle.

There is an element in town who cannot and will not ignore these idiots and I worry for what will happen.

[Yonnie3]

35. WaPo says marchers, but the permit discussed in media is for a rally in the Park.

I suppose they can march in circles, it would match their rhetoric. There is no march route.

The City will shut down streets and prohibit parking for a block or two in each direction. The city says that is in order to make room for "public safety" vehicles.

[MiniMe]

36. What could possibly go wrong?

[Sunlei]

37. kkk what slobs. everyone knows they stole their entire image from a movie-'birth of a nation'. NRA

NRA and kkk rose up together, the same time and are the SAME hate group.

The Co-group gives honest, safe gun enthusiasts and hunters a BAD NAME. I don't understand why ANYONE who knows their history would be a member of that hate group!

[KingCharlemagne]

40. I hope area Communists and Socialists rise to the challenge - nt

[GulfCoast66]

44. Would love to see several hundred

Armed African American counter protestors waiting for them.

This shit needs confronting.

[roamer65]

47. Hey Agent Mike!

Perfect opportunity for you to identify a few domestic terrorists!

Take lots of pictures, Agent Mike.

[struggle4progress]

49. Large counterprotest in Charlottesville

Joe Heim, The Washington Post
Published 5:12 pm, Saturday, July 8, 2017

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. - A rally here .. to protest the .. decision to remove a statue honoring .. Robert E. Lee encountered a loud and angry counterprotest Saturday ... Abou 30 Klansmen were escorted to and from the rally by police in riot gear to protect the rally-goers from approximately 1,000 counter protesters who greeted them with jeers of "shame" ...

http://www.lmtonline.com/news/article/Ku-Klux-Klan-rally-attracts-large-counterprotest-11275139.php

[sandensea]

50. Great to hear!

Definitely LBN-worthy news, imo. Here's hoping it all happens without incident.

[Turbineguy]

51. So the other day we were visiting a relative

and they had a 2009 Rand McNally Road Atlas, Food edition. There were write-ups about food all over the U.S. I found especially the food from the South interesting and delicious. There were pictures of nice people involved with cooking it and presenting it. The kind of people that bring joy to life.

But why have such things as your heritage, when you can have bigoted armed idiots as your heritage.

Of course, food is only a small start. But it's a good start. There used to be a lot of good things said about the South. Terms like "Georgia Peach", "Southern Hospitality" and many great expressions. A lot of great American writers. And as far as the Civil War goes, the War was no doubt a tragedy, but people on both sides fought with courage and distinction.

[Thomas Hurt]

52. The Ku Klux Klan

The oldest and longest existing conservative/reactionary christian terrorist org in the USA....

[The Wizard]

53. It was treason then.

It's treason now, and it will be treason tomorrow.

[DBoon]

54. Progressives need to create their own Southern Heritage

the struggles of people in the former confederacy need more exposure and celebration

Don't let the KKK define history and heritage

[Judi Lynn]

55. They travel best in their little clusters. Singly, they don't do so well.

[Hoyt]

57. A heritage of hate and gunz. How nice.

[Doug the Dem]

58. Of course they will

They're too fucking cowardly to leave their front yards without their substitute dicks!

[AgadorSparticus]

60. So they think they are the only ones that can pack heat?

Ummmmm....there's plenty of liberals out there that have guns and shoot regularly. They just don't feel the need to carry a .50 or A-7 to go to Target to exert their "presence".