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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 11:09 AM Jul 2017

Clinton running mate: Russian probe moving into 'potentially treason'

Source: The Hill




BY REBECCA SAVRANSKY - 07/11/17 10:29 AM EDT

Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) on Tuesday said the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election is now moving "beyond" obstruction of justice to "even potentially treason."

The remarks from Kaine, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton's running mate in last year's presidential election, follow the news that Donald Trump Jr. met with a Russian lawyer offering compromising information about Clinton during a meeting last year.

"The investigation — it's not, nothing is proven yet, but we're now beyond obstruction of justice in terms of what's being investigated," Kaine told reporters.

"This is moving into perjury, false statements and even potentially treason."

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/341432-kaine-on-russia-investigation-this-is-moving-into-perjury-false-statements

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Marthe48

(16,904 posts)
1. How long are we putting up with this?
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 11:35 AM
Jul 2017

I borrowed this from History.com This excerpt is about Benedict Arnold and his traitorous plot. He married a Loyalist, he was deeply in debt and his had a fragile ego. In late 1779, Arnold began planning to let the British take the fort at West Point, in return for money and a command in the British Army. The plot was discovered in Sept 1780. Arnold fled to British territory before he was caught, and Andre was hanged as a spy in Oct. 1780. It didn't take long for the American government to break up and punish the traitors. I guess the brand new leaders of a brand new country had their priorities straight. Country before party.

http://www.history.com/topics/american-revolution/benedict-arnold :

A TREACHEROUS PLOT
During his term as governor, rumors, not entirely unfounded, circulated through Philadelphia accusing Arnold of abusing his position for his personal profit. Questions were also raised about Arnold’s courtship and marriage to the young Peggy Shippen (1760-1804), the daughter of a man suspected of Loyalist sympathies. Arnold and his second wife, with whom he would have five children, lived a lavish lifestyle in Philadelphia, accumulating substantial debt. The debt and the resentment Arnold felt over not being promoted faster were motivating factors in his choice to become a turncoat. He concluded that his interests would be better served assisting the British than continuing to suffer for an American army he saw as ungrateful.

By the end of 1779, Arnold had begun secret negotiations with the British to surrender the American fort at West Point, New York, in return for money and a command in the British army. Arnold’s chief intermediary was British Major John André (1750-80). André was captured in September 1780, while crossing between British and American lines, disguised in civilian clothes. Papers found on André incriminated Arnold in treason. Learning of André’s capture, Arnold fled to British lines before the Patriots could arrest him. West Point remained in American hands, and Arnold only received a portion of his promised bounty. André was hanged as a spy in October 1780.

Arnold soon became one of the most reviled figures in U.S. history. Ironically, his treason became his final service to the American cause. By 1780, Americans had grown frustrated with the slow progress toward independence and their numerous battlefield defeats. However, word of Arnold’s treachery re-energized the Patriots’ sagging morale.

denbot

(9,898 posts)
4. Either he is subconsciously getting back at his dad for being a dick (almost commendable).
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 11:57 AM
Jul 2017

Or he's a semi-suicidal dumbass.

FSogol

(45,452 posts)
6. Why? Because, like his Dad, he doesn't understand the difference between right and wrong.
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:13 PM
Jul 2017

To him, anything that benefits him personally is good.

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