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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:20 AM Jul 2017

UPDATED Trump Lawyer Blames Secret Service For Not Preemptively Stopping Jr.'s Meeting

Last edited Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:51 AM - Edit history (1)

Source: Talking Points Memo


By ESME CRIBB Published JULY 16, 2017 9:59 AM

Jay Sekulow, a member of President Donald Trump’s legal team, on Sunday aired a new defense for Donald Trump Jr.’s meeting with a Russian lawyer who promised him damaging information on Hillary Clinton: The Secret Service should not have “allowed these people in” to meet with Trump’s eldest son.

“I wonder why the Secret Service, if this was nefarious, why the Secret Service allowed these people in,” Sekulow said on ABC’s “This Week,” referring to Trump’s protection detail as the Republican candidate. “The President had Secret Service protection at that point, and that raised a question with me.”

Trump Jr. arranged the meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya after he was promised compromising information on Hillary Clinton as part of a Russian state effort to aid his father’s campaign.

Sekulow said he had not talked to Trump about whether the President would eliminate the possibility of pardoning associates caught up in the federal investigation into possible collusion between members of Trump’s campaign and Russian officials to interfere in the 2016 election.

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Trump Lawyer On Russia Meeting: POTUS Wasn’t There And Didn’t Know Anything

By ESME CRIBB Published JULY 16, 2017 10:17 AM

A member of President Donald Trump’s legal team on Sunday insisted that Trump knew nothing about and did not attend his eldest son’s meeting with a Russian lawyer who promised alleged damaging information on Hillary Clinton as part of a Russian state effort to help Trump’s campaign.

Asked on NBC News’ “Meet the Press” if he knew the names of everyone who attended Trump Jr.’s meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, Jay Sekulow said he did not and went on to insist unprompted that Trump was not among their number.

“I don’t represent Donald Trump Jr. and I do not know everyone for sure that was at that meeting and the President was not at the meeting,” Sekulow said. “I can tell you he was not there. The President was not aware of the meeting and did not attend it.”

Sekulow said Trump “became aware of it very recently” and that he learned of the meeting “about the same time, almost exactly the same time.”

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UPDATED Trump Lawyer Blames Secret Service For Not Preemptively Stopping Jr.'s Meeting (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2017 OP
Everything is always someone else's fault. CincyDem Jul 2017 #1
Well, that's pretty much his job. thesquanderer Jul 2017 #10
But it works better if the excuses aren't weapons-grade stupid. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #29
I think you mean it's ALWAYS Obama's fault. Grins Jul 2017 #47
Didn't someone also blame 9/11 on Pres. Obama? Beartracks Jul 2017 #54
Yes! Grins Jul 2017 #58
This Sekulow guy sounds like Turbineguy Jul 2017 #2
Violin?? pangaia Jul 2017 #21
Actually Klemperer was an excellent violinist in real life as well as playing the piano. nt cstanleytech Jul 2017 #38
I didn't know that... pangaia Jul 2017 #39
Yup, it always makes me laugh when I see him spoofing Klinks bad cstanleytech Jul 2017 #41
Which explains why Turbineguy Jul 2017 #61
He plays fiddle while Trump burns Rome. Does that count? jmowreader Jul 2017 #42
Where did this Bozo get his law degree? PatSeg Jul 2017 #3
Same guy who said Trump is and isn't under investigation William Seger Jul 2017 #16
Oh yeah PatSeg Jul 2017 #32
here's his wikipedia page MBS Jul 2017 #56
What a scumbag. Glimmer of Hope Jul 2017 #62
oh, yeah. MBS Jul 2017 #63
So many of the people PatSeg Jul 2017 #64
oh, yes, exactly! MBS Jul 2017 #65
Ha, ha, ha PatSeg Jul 2017 #67
The Secret Service's job is to protect Trump, not baby-sit him! JohnQFunk Jul 2017 #4
I have it on excellent authoritiy the blame lies with Otis. rzemanfl Jul 2017 #5
I think you have the right name....Otis....but this one: Moostache Jul 2017 #7
Umm.. because that's not the Secret Service's job... ananda Jul 2017 #6
I quite possibly think that is the most exboyfil Jul 2017 #8
He has to pitch it to Trump's extremely stupid support. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #48
Pfft! It doesn't matter if or why the Secret Service "allowed" this... WePurrsevere Jul 2017 #9
If it was a nothing burger meeting central scrutinizer Jul 2017 #45
They wouldn't. It's normally not the job... WePurrsevere Jul 2017 #49
Don't forget who this lawyer is... Archae Jul 2017 #11
You bet, Jay-boy has a Ph.D. from Regent U... FreeStateDemocrat Jul 2017 #22
SecServ NOT in business of interfering w elections. Republicons outsource that to Putin. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #12
IF the SecServ had stopped it, Republicons would still be howling about it today. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #13
Perhaps this accusation is just enough to cause a critical 1 second NCjack Jul 2017 #14
Undoubtedly a plot hatched by Obama and Hillary. Jim__ Jul 2017 #15
Throwing the Secret Service under the bus C_U_L8R Jul 2017 #17
Now that's one of the stupidest cop-outs I've heard. CanonRay Jul 2017 #18
Well, they also allow dumpster into the white house. so there is that.. pangaia Jul 2017 #19
These clowns... iloveObama12 Jul 2017 #20
Seth Abramson on Sekulow: NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #23
Oh that is a good one. avebury Jul 2017 #30
lolololol JHan Jul 2017 #55
Sounding like Otter in his walk out speech in Animal House rurallib Jul 2017 #24
Darn tooting. And why did the Secret Service let Lincoln get shot? FailureToCommunicate Jul 2017 #25
That's not the Secret Service's job. And even if it was, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #26
Jimmy McGill could do better SHRED Jul 2017 #27
Much better. Jimmy is ethically challenged but not stupid. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #40
Turning on the secret service hmmmm. What will that get the trump family? lunasun Jul 2017 #28
Although they are professionals who understand what the job requires, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #31
True I wasn't trying to insinuate they were revengeful thugs like the Trumps lunasun Jul 2017 #34
I understand that, didn't mean to suggest otherwise. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #35
Once again, "The Party of Personal Responsibility" ThoughtCriminal Jul 2017 #33
A Lawyer only says what his client tells him. trump supervises _everything_ his gang does. Sunlei Jul 2017 #36
LOL! Is that all he's got? Nitram Jul 2017 #37
"If robbing that bank was so wrong, christx30 Jul 2017 #43
Sekulow better rejoin his family in fleecing fundamentalists on TV. Paladin Jul 2017 #44
Wait, I thought there was nothing wrong with these meetings? joanbarnes Jul 2017 #46
Maybe the secret service should have stopped the Russian OnDoutside Jul 2017 #50
They should have MFM008 Jul 2017 #51
Did Junior, or anyone else in the Trump family call the Secret Service or FBI? ollie10 Jul 2017 #52
It's now becoming routine True Dough Jul 2017 #53
That's Dum Dum's job now. louis-t Jul 2017 #57
The unspoken assertion, have no doubt ... why didn't OBAMA'S Secret Service stop it ... mr_lebowski Jul 2017 #59
Years ago I read something to the effect of "don't just make enemies, choose them wisely" Yonnie3 Jul 2017 #60
Still waiting for the "stuck elevator" story to come back around. sofa king Jul 2017 #66

CincyDem

(6,351 posts)
1. Everything is always someone else's fault.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:22 AM
Jul 2017


Classic malignant narcissistic behavior...internalize any perception of success and externalize any perception of imperfection.

Time to call the Whammmmmmbulance for DJT.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
10. Well, that's pretty much his job.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:36 AM
Jul 2017

Any lawyer basically only says two things when representing someone in a potentially criminal activity...

either

(a) it didn't happen,

or, if it did,

(b) it was someone else's fault.

That sums up their job.

(That said, blaming the Secret Service sounds absurd.)

Grins

(7,212 posts)
47. I think you mean it's ALWAYS Obama's fault.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:26 PM
Jul 2017

Boston Marathon, Ebola, Jade Helm, Chemtrails? All Obama's fault.

Information that came from Bush's torture policy? Obama's Fault (Liz Cheney).
Putin? Obama's fault (Rep. Alan West.)
The rise of Trump? Obama; because he "lowered the bar" (Noonan).
Cardinal Ross Douthat: Barack Obama and liberalism are to blame - for Trump.
Trump's rise? Obama's fault (Bobby Jindal.)
Katrina? Obama's fault.
Failing To Pass DREAM Act that Romney pledged to veto? Obama's fault (Romney Adviser Carlos Gutierrez.)
And on, and on, and on.....

And this will hold true until the next Democrat moves into the White House.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
54. Didn't someone also blame 9/11 on Pres. Obama?
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 02:31 PM
Jul 2017

... Which, like Katrina, was way before he was even on the national scene or in the Oval Office.

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Grins

(7,212 posts)
58. Yes!
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 03:10 PM
Jul 2017

Yes!! And good catch.

Day-time Dracula, Rudy "9-11" Ghouliani blamed Barack Obama for 9/11 at the Republican Convention last August. But he went a mile further and added (Brace yourself!!!):

"...under those eight years, before Obama came along, we didn't have ANY successful radical Islamic terrorist attack in the United States. They ALL STARTED when Clinton and Obama got into office."

Can't think of ONE, Mr. Mayor? One....?

From The Daily Show at that same convention:
Trump supporter at Ohio rally: "Barack Obama had a big part in 9/11. Not being around, always on vacation, never in the office."

Interviewer: "Why do you think Barack Obama wasn't in the Oval Office on 9/11?"

Trump supporter: "That I don't know. I'd like to get to bottom of that."

Idiots.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
21. Violin??
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:16 AM
Jul 2017

Violin?

Please delete your post.
It is offensive to great violinists.

Such as Kyung-Why Chung
Gidon Kremer
Vadim Repin
Sayaka Shoji
Itzhak Perman
Maxim Vengerov

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
3. Where did this Bozo get his law degree?
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:24 AM
Jul 2017

Trump University? Did he just admit Junior's guilt and blame it on the Secret Service?

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
16. Same guy who said Trump is and isn't under investigation
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:47 AM
Jul 2017

... and TrumpCo is too stupid to keep him away from cameras.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
32. Oh yeah
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:51 AM
Jul 2017

"Let me make one thing perfectly clear, the president isn't under investigation", right after he said Trump was under investigation three times! Stupid seems to magnetize stupid.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
64. So many of the people
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 12:28 AM
Jul 2017

in Trump world come across as characters out of a book or movie. Even then they'd be too far-fetched to believe.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
65. oh, yes, exactly!
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 09:49 AM
Jul 2017

You managed to put into words my own still-vague impression about this cast of characters (the closest I'd gotten to a simile was the motley and bizarre bar clientele in the first Star Wars movie).

JohnQFunk

(409 posts)
4. The Secret Service's job is to protect Trump, not baby-sit him!
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:25 AM
Jul 2017

Sekulow sounded like an idiot. Trump did not choose wisely.

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
5. I have it on excellent authoritiy the blame lies with Otis.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:26 AM
Jul 2017

They should not allow Russian spies to operate their elevators. SAD!

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
7. I think you have the right name....Otis....but this one:
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:29 AM
Jul 2017


He seems to fit the cut of a "Trump man"...

ananda

(28,858 posts)
6. Umm.. because that's not the Secret Service's job...
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:27 AM
Jul 2017

Seriously malignant idiocy reigns, along with a lot of
chaos, hate and fear ... and here we are, talking
about it.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
8. I quite possibly think that is the most
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:31 AM
Jul 2017

stupid thing a lawyer has ever said.

By that same reasoning why the hell would the Secret Service allow Trump be in the room with Putin without protection. Former KGB with a body count to match.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
9. Pfft! It doesn't matter if or why the Secret Service "allowed" this...
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:31 AM
Jul 2017

I'm pretty sure that their job is merely to protect the people they're assigned to from 'physical' attacks not to protect them from themselves when they 'choose' to be a stupid traitor in a private 'business' meeting.

Even 'if' their job was to stop you from being a traitor and they failed at that, it doesn't make YOU any less guilty of being a friggin TRAITOR.

central scrutinizer

(11,648 posts)
45. If it was a nothing burger meeting
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:13 PM
Jul 2017

Why would the SS feel the need to stop it? So is this a back door admission that it was an illegal, substantive meeting?

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
49. They wouldn't. It's normally not the job...
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 02:08 PM
Jul 2017

of the SS to stop what 'appears' to be a normal biz meeting.

I suppose that it's also possible that the SS was working with another IC to uncover something but from what I've heard that would be unique.

The quasi-admission that it was illegal comes from trying to deny that it happened, then lying about why when more came out more and continuing to blatantly lie about the whole damn thing. People who believe that they're truly innocent don't act like this.

 

FreeStateDemocrat

(2,654 posts)
22. You bet, Jay-boy has a Ph.D. from Regent U...
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:22 AM
Jul 2017

Regent University is a private Christian research university[4] located in Virginia Beach, Virginia, United States. The university was founded by Pat Robertson in 1977 as Christian Broadcasting Network University, and changed its name to Regent University in 1990.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regent_University

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
14. Perhaps this accusation is just enough to cause a critical 1 second
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:42 AM
Jul 2017

involuntary hesitation (Question to self: "do I really have to save this asshole?) in leaping in front of Jr. to stop a bullet.

Jim__

(14,075 posts)
15. Undoubtedly a plot hatched by Obama and Hillary.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:46 AM
Jul 2017

Both of them acting in cahoots with Putin. Oh, the injustice of it all!

C_U_L8R

(44,998 posts)
17. Throwing the Secret Service under the bus
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:55 AM
Jul 2017

to cover your own misdeeds
sure seems like a risky strategy.


rurallib

(62,406 posts)
24. Sounding like Otter in his walk out speech in Animal House
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:28 AM
Jul 2017

paraphrasing
'In the end isn't all of America to blame for this poor boy going astray?'

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
26. That's not the Secret Service's job. And even if it was,
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:43 AM
Jul 2017

why did Jr. have the meeting in the first place?

"It's all the fault of the police! Why didn't they stop me *before* I robbed the bank?"

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
31. Although they are professionals who understand what the job requires,
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:49 AM
Jul 2017

I have to wonder whether they sometimes think, "I have to take a bullet for this douche?"

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
34. True I wasn't trying to insinuate they were revengeful thugs like the Trumps
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:55 AM
Jul 2017

Just it will get the trumps no respect from them . Perhaps none of them have any for the trumps after 6 months anyway and these comments from the lawyer are no surprise to them

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
35. I understand that, didn't mean to suggest otherwise.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:59 AM
Jul 2017

But the obligation to protect a bunch of dirtbags like the Trumps can't be good for their morale.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
33. Once again, "The Party of Personal Responsibility"
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:54 AM
Jul 2017

"Shoplifting was not my fault. Daddy let me go into the store."

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
36. A Lawyer only says what his client tells him. trump supervises _everything_ his gang does.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 12:00 PM
Jul 2017

Republican party is responsible for their presidents espionage & Russian collusion. They knew about the meeting.

Nitram

(22,791 posts)
37. LOL! Is that all he's got?
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 12:03 PM
Jul 2017

I've been listening to Sekulow today. He is a piece of work. I'm sure he's worth every penny he's being paid to lie, obfuscate and misdirect.

Paladin

(28,252 posts)
44. Sekulow better rejoin his family in fleecing fundamentalists on TV.
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:04 PM
Jul 2017

That's his true and vastly profitable calling. If he's reduced to trashing the Secret Service by way of defending trump, he's clearly spiraling downward.....

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
50. Maybe the secret service should have stopped the Russian
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 02:09 PM
Jul 2017

Foreign Minister and the rest of the GRU from entering the Oval Office ?

True Dough

(17,302 posts)
53. It's now becoming routine
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 02:27 PM
Jul 2017

to spout the idea that the Trumps need to be saved from themselves because they know not what they do, being new to the political process and all (not to mention morally corrupt and self-serving).

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
59. The unspoken assertion, have no doubt ... why didn't OBAMA'S Secret Service stop it ...
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 03:21 PM
Jul 2017

Once again, the Pukes resort to their favorite fallback ... It's teh BLACK'S FAULT!!!

Yonnie3

(17,431 posts)
60. Years ago I read something to the effect of "don't just make enemies, choose them wisely"
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 03:25 PM
Jul 2017

If I were President, I don't think I would want to malign the Secret Service.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
66. Still waiting for the "stuck elevator" story to come back around.
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:38 AM
Jul 2017

At the time I pointed out that I thought the Secret Service deliberately stalled the elevator and gave the Trump campaign a stern talking-to about the Russian meetings. Now that they're playing the "blame Obama" card, we can expect the former President to drop that microphone, at his convenience.

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