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Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:13 PM Aug 2012

DCCC apologizes to Sheldon Adelson

Source: Politico

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee issued a public apology Thursday afternoon to billionaire casino magnate Sheldon Adelson for charging that the Republican mega donor was tied to the Chinese mob and a prostitution ring.

“In press statements issued on June 29 and July 2, 2012, the DCCC made unsubstantiated allegations that attacked Sheldon Adelson, a supporter of the opposing party. This was wrong. The statements were untrue and unfair and we retract them,” the DCCC wrote. “The DCCC extends its sincere apology to Mr. Adelson and his family for any injury we have caused.”

The statement is an attempt by the Democratic party committee to try and make a potential defamation lawsuit go away.
Adelson’s attorneys threatened legal action last month after the DCCC sent out an email June 29 stating that Adelson “personally approved of prostitution and knew of other improper activity at his company’s properties in the Chinese enclave of Macau, China.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79337.html

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DCCC apologizes to Sheldon Adelson (Original Post) Freddie Stubbs Aug 2012 OP
WHY would the DCCC AC_Mem Aug 2012 #1
I also apologize Thor_MN Aug 2012 #2
Nicely done! FiveGoodMen Aug 2012 #5
Collaborator to Chinese Communists and Whores Sponsors GOP. onehandle Aug 2012 #3
Yes. If he didn't get all that money from prostitution and crime, where in the JDPriestly Aug 2012 #16
Let the slimy bastard sue 'em tularetom Aug 2012 #4
I think it wasn't too smart wording it the way they did. Bradical79 Aug 2012 #7
from the article tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #6
Reading isn't committing libel! Neither is telling the truth. Don C. Nuttin Aug 2012 #8
The Republicans never apologize, why does the DCCC? sarcasmo Aug 2012 #9
Because you have to prove you are telling the truth if you are defending yourself against a libel 6000eliot Aug 2012 #13
No, you simply have to show that you didn't mean any untruth. leveymg Aug 2012 #14
Malice requires a "knowing or reckless disregard for the truth" Freddie Stubbs Aug 2012 #21
That's right - as there's at least circumstantial evidence, libel wouldn't apply. leveymg Aug 2012 #22
He posted gleefully. Kingofalldems Aug 2012 #10
indeed... and some will reason it away, because they don't care fascisthunter Aug 2012 #12
Move along. Nothing to see here. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2012 #15
Adelson now under investigation for money laundering Kingofalldems Aug 2012 #31
You bet I did Freddie Stubbs Aug 2012 #38
Well then maybe we should all apologize to his daughter too Kingofalldems Aug 2012 #40
There is no need for any apologies from those who have not made slanderous statements Freddie Stubbs Sep 2012 #41
+1 Nine Aug 2012 #39
fuck you! fascisthunter Aug 2012 #11
fuck who? stockholmer Aug 2012 #17
LOL! freshwest Aug 2012 #29
I concur. Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Aug 2012 #18
That was a fun jury. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #19
Didn't take long! Judi Lynn Aug 2012 #20
I would love to see that one. Kingofalldems Aug 2012 #25
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #27
Thanks, jury got it right. Kingofalldems Aug 2012 #30
Yup. It gets more obvious by the day. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2012 #24
I like it Broderick Aug 2012 #23
Is the backbone getting arthritic? Lint Head Aug 2012 #26
Well, that's better than consorting with Peruvian drug bosses and running a child-trafficking MADem Aug 2012 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author wordpix Aug 2012 #32
On Adelson, No Apologies (article featuring SA's known illegal/unethical activities) wordpix Aug 2012 #33
Perhaps it's a strategy, as Adelson is being investigated by the Gov. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #34
That is bullshit! and-justice-for-all Aug 2012 #35
With what happened with his daughter at the convention yesterday Kingofalldems Aug 2012 #36
Am I the only one tired of the DCCC apologizing. sarcasmo Aug 2012 #37
You're in Good Company N/T tonekat Sep 2012 #42

AC_Mem

(1,979 posts)
1. WHY would the DCCC
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:16 PM
Aug 2012

put something out against a billionaire, who is bound to spend unlimited money to buy the election - that they did not know was 100% true?

OMG. We can make NO mistakes. None.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
2. I also apologize
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:20 PM
Aug 2012

I mistakenly thought he was a pederast with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. Turns out it was some other republican.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
16. Yes. If he didn't get all that money from prostitution and crime, where in the
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 12:55 AM
Aug 2012

world did he get it? Gambling and has-been shows alone do not make that kind of money.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
4. Let the slimy bastard sue 'em
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:23 PM
Aug 2012

I'll bet the statements aren't that far from the truth, but once again, the Dems are bluffed into submission.

I'm pretty sure that Adelson does not want any of this stuff to come out in court. They didn't just pull that statement out their ass.

I mistakenly made a donation to the DCCC some months ago. That won't happen again.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
7. I think it wasn't too smart wording it the way they did.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:43 PM
Aug 2012

Unless they have proof like an email from him, recording, or some other fool proof piece of evidence, it was kind of a stupid thing to say. The way I would have done it is show some of the things that would lead to that conclusion and phrased it in a more suggestive manner rather than flat out saying he is personally running a prostitution ring.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
6. from the article
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:41 PM
Aug 2012

Info at the article indicates that Steven Jacobs CEO of the Sands China subsidiary was fired by Adelson in 2010, and it was he who has suggested that Adelson approved of prostitution at the China property for financial reasons.

If anyone knows, it would be him. It may come to light during the wrongful termination lawsuit.

Or maybe someone will get a nice check for everything to just go away.


Don C. Nuttin

(84 posts)
8. Reading isn't committing libel! Neither is telling the truth.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:49 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:07 PM - Edit history (1)

I would suggest that readers google "triad," "Macao," and "organized crime." I certainly wouldn't want to libel an honest businessman. I'm just sayin'. You might bump into some information about a government that can be bought, and people in the government-buying business. You might bump into some information about the triads infiltrating Macao casinos and the people who, uhh, "do business" with them. The internet is a wonderful thing.

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
13. Because you have to prove you are telling the truth if you are defending yourself against a libel
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:19 PM
Aug 2012

charge. Google won't work, either. Apologizing is the wisest move in this case.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
14. No, you simply have to show that you didn't mean any untruth.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:31 PM
Aug 2012

Libel requires a showing of malice as well as intentional inaccuracy. Adelson would probably lose.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
12. indeed... and some will reason it away, because they don't care
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:59 PM
Aug 2012

lets hear it for the right wing troll... yay!

PS - without him, there is no debate I guess. Gotta watch out for that bottom line. It's ok, I'll say it, you don't have to.

Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
38. You bet I did
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:26 AM
Aug 2012
(AP) NEW YORK - Billionaire casino mogul Sheldon Adelson has filed a defamation lawsuit in New York against the National Jewish Democratic Council and top officials, saying they made libelous statements regarding his political contributions.

The lawsuit filed Wednesday in federal court in Manhattan seeks $60 million in damages. Adelson is chairman and chief executive officer of Las Vegas Sands Corp. and donates to Republican campaigns.

The lawsuit alleges the Washington-based Council said Adelson personally approved of prostitution in resorts owned by Sands China Limited, a subsidiary of Las Vegas Sands. The suit accuses the Council of "assassinating" Adelson's character.

The Council said its reports referenced mainstream press accounts and were "wholly appropriate."

The press accounts described claims by a fired former Sands China executive. Adelson has denied the claims.

more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57489688/wealthy-gop-donor-sheldon-adelson-sues-jewish-political-group-for-libel/


Every dollar the DCCC spends defending itself from a lawsuit is one less dollar available to elect Democrats to the House. They knew that this guy was going to sue, and decided to do the smart thing. Thank God!

The National Jewish Democratic Council would have been wise to have followed the DCCC's lead on this.
 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
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Aug 2012

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Broderick

(4,578 posts)
23. I like it
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 04:55 PM
Aug 2012

Create whatever narrative that might hold truth. Create the firestorm or create the story. Apologize on page 30.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
28. Well, that's better than consorting with Peruvian drug bosses and running a child-trafficking
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 02:49 PM
Aug 2012

enterprise!

Not that I'm saying he did that, either.

But I'd ask LBJ's pig what he thought about it, for sure....while I got my private investigators to work in Macau!

Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
33. On Adelson, No Apologies (article featuring SA's known illegal/unethical activities)
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 11:56 AM
Aug 2012
http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/on-adelson-no-apologies-165046396.html

snip
Sure, Democrats want to embarrass Adelson - who may become the single largest Republican donor this year - by repeating scandalous allegations contained in a lawsuit filed by a dismissed employee, alleging that Adelson conscienced prostitution in his Macau casinos. Thus, Chinese prostitution money was flowing to Republican coffers, they said. snip

But those charges are still being litigated. So let's confine ourselves to the well-known things Democrats could have pointed out about Adelson.

For example, Adelson has elected not to sign a contract with the Culinary union, which is his right. But Adelson went further: When the Culinary staged a pre-opening protest at The Venetian, the casino's staff demanded police arrest demonstrators, and when officers refused, Sands sued. A federal judge determined the sidewalks outside Strip casinos are public forums, but Sands appealed that ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court before being rebuffed. snip

More in the article about Adelson being sued by former driver and security detail for stiffing them.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
34. Perhaps it's a strategy, as Adelson is being investigated by the Gov.
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:01 PM
Aug 2012

Could be that they don't want that stuff to muck things up.

and-justice-for-all

(14,765 posts)
35. That is bullshit!
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:27 PM
Aug 2012

Its fucking true what is going on in Macau!

Adelson attempts buy a President and that is ok, but bring the skeletons out of the fuckers closet and he gets an apology!?? fuck that.

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